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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 01:30 PM Nov 2015

BREAKING NEWS---SEIU Endorse Hillary Clinton






WASHINGTON — After a rigorous, months-long member engagement process, the Service Employees International Union (SEIU) today endorsed Hillary Clinton for president, calling her a leader who will stand up for the working people building a movement to secure a better future for their families.

“Hillary Clinton has proven she will fight, deliver and win for working families,” said SEIU International President Mary Kay Henry. “SEIU members and working families across America are part of a growing movement to build a better future for their families, and Hillary Clinton will support and stand with them. This movement for economic, racial, immigrant and social justice is poised to turn out to vote in November with their families and communities and keep pushing elected officials to deliver once in office.”

“We are endorsing Hillary Clinton because she will stand up for working people like me when she’s in the White House, not the rich and powerful,” said Regina Sutton, a home care worker and member of SEIU Local 2015 in California.

SEIU’s member engagement included a 1,200-member conference in March, three national tele-town hall meetings in which more than 178,000 members participated, three national member polls from the fall of 2014 through the fall of 2015, more than 200 local executive board debates and discussions with thousands of local union officers and elected member leaders and local union member discussions representing 1.2 million SEIU members, which included leadership assemblies, live phone calls, worksite meetings, emails and text messages.

Hillary Clinton will fight to raise wages and has stood up for the rights of workers to join together in a union. She has spoken out in support of the Fight for $15 movement: on the movement’s April 15 national day of action, during the New York wage board fight that resulted in $15 for all fast food workers in the state, for the $15 victories in Los Angeles city and county and again just last week, on Nov. 10, during the biggest day of action yet.

“As cleaners, we roll up our sleeves every day and get the job done without complaint. When Hillary Clinton is president, she will do the same. She will fight tirelessly for working families. I like that she is not running to prove a point, she is running to make our country better,” said Pam Johnston, a cleaner, member of 32BJ SEIU in Pittsburgh and executive board member.

Once elected, Hillary Clinton will have the opportunity to address the epidemic of low wages and poor training standards for our nation’s airport workers, who keep travelers safe and airports clean. “Airport jobs should be good jobs — and together, we can make sure they are,” she wrote to airport workers gathered at a national convention last month in Washington.

Clinton has recognized the value of care work in our nation, particularly the home care providers and child care teachers who help educate our future generations and allow our seniors and those with disabilities to live with dignity at home. In many places, these workers earn poverty wages with no sick or vacation time and few if any benefits. “One of the things I'm trying to do in this campaign is put raising wages at the center,” Clinton said at an August roundtable meeting in Los Angeles with SEIU home care providers. “I think your skills deserve a lot more pay and benefits than what's currently being made available to you.”

“Hillary Clinton understands that child care teachers need living wages and that the care has to be affordable for people,” said Marites McLean, a child care provider and member of SEIU Local 509 in Massachusetts. “She gets it and she’s going to do something about it.”

Clinton is also a leader on the core issues SEIU members care about in this election, including fighting for commonsense immigration reform that includes a path to citizenship, standing up for voting rights and criminal justice reform that prioritizes ending mass incarceration and supporting and strengthening the Affordable Care Act (ACA). Clinton’s commitment to quality, affordable healthcare goes back decades to her courageous efforts in 1994 to ensure coverage for all. SEIU members know she will fight hard to strengthen the ACA so we never go backward.

http://www.seiu.org/2015/11/seiu-endorses-hillary-clinton-for-president


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BREAKING NEWS---SEIU Endorse Hillary Clinton (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 OP
Kick! Agschmid Nov 2015 #1
YUUUUGE. JaneyVee Nov 2015 #2
YUUUGE DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #5
I will bookmark this for future discussion Kelvin Mace Nov 2015 #3
K&R Historic NY Nov 2015 #4
Yay! Rose Siding Nov 2015 #6
and a Big Rec. riversedge Nov 2015 #7
I want to see the Facebook polling data... brooklynite Nov 2015 #8
Individual facebook posts.... NCTraveler Nov 2015 #12
Tenth rec! Agschmid Nov 2015 #9
That's huge!!!! NCTraveler Nov 2015 #10
Very exciting news! NurseJackie Nov 2015 #11
Cuteness overload!!!!!!! nt. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #13
SEIU has stated before that 75% of their members support Clinton tammywammy Nov 2015 #14
I learned something I did not know Florencenj2point0 Nov 2015 #39
"rigorous, months-long member engagement process"... SidDithers Nov 2015 #15
WOW Iliyah Nov 2015 #16
Well that is the nail in the coffin for Bernie and Unions MaggieD Nov 2015 #17
Kicking again. This is extremely exciting news. nt. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #18
Every 2 or 4 years the DU gets excited by a union endorsement Omaha Steve Nov 2015 #19
They won't. AllyCat Nov 2015 #28
I wonder if they were threatened or paid off? zappaman Nov 2015 #20
Vote Hillary or "sleep with the fishes". oasis Nov 2015 #23
Not funny AllyCat Nov 2015 #27
Huh? Give you a break? I was referring to the Clinton campaign threatening oasis Nov 2015 #38
Well I have not made those accusations. After reading the title, AllyCat Nov 2015 #41
..yeah...might be to your advantage to go with the lady...I'll take care of it... BlueJazz Nov 2015 #80
I was part of a group encouraging them not to endorse AllyCat Nov 2015 #25
One has to wonder... gregcrawford Nov 2015 #21
link please Florencenj2point0 Nov 2015 #36
That made that clear angrychair Nov 2015 #64
. Agschmid Nov 2015 #84
Gawd SammyWinstonJack Nov 2015 #79
Non sequiturs do not an argument make gregcrawford Nov 2015 #104
Well... quickesst Nov 2015 #92
It is about the money angrychair Nov 2015 #96
I think... quickesst Nov 2015 #106
Sounds like teapublican talking points to me angrychair Nov 2015 #107
The talking points... quickesst Nov 2015 #108
Which part? angrychair Nov 2015 #110
Still in denial.. quickesst Nov 2015 #111
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2015 #22
she is not center right Florencenj2point0 Nov 2015 #31
Post removed Post removed Nov 2015 #37
I can't wait until the TOS is enforced on bashing Dems here MaggieD Nov 2015 #45
Remember the TOS? That was nice, wasn't it? shenmue Nov 2015 #65
Yes, fondly MaggieD Nov 2015 #67
Then the 7% of the time they have not voted the same have been some real AllyCat Nov 2015 #42
go see my other comments Florencenj2point0 Nov 2015 #47
Her supporters feel that they have a vested interest in the Status Quo. It's as simple as that. nt Romulox Nov 2015 #33
So SEIU under the bus? MaggieD Nov 2015 #43
For example, here's your thread against raising the minimum wage to $15: Romulox Nov 2015 #48
Yes, I agree with Hillary - Fed rate should be $12 MaggieD Nov 2015 #50
As I mentioned, many of her supporters are threatened by change. nt Romulox Nov 2015 #52
Based on what evidence? MaggieD Nov 2015 #53
Your thread railing against raising the minimum wage to $15, e.g. nt Romulox Nov 2015 #54
Oh good lord MaggieD Nov 2015 #56
So, your op showing you want change.... NCTraveler Nov 2015 #61
Um, you are aware of the SEIU campaign for $15/hour, yes? Romulox Nov 2015 #63
More than doubling the fed min wage is a non-starter politically MaggieD Nov 2015 #71
Hillary *opposes* the SEIU's Fight for $15. Pointing that out isn't a "senseless attack". Romulox Nov 2015 #77
That's because she knows doubling the federal min wage is a non-starter politically MaggieD Nov 2015 #83
Which is why you are such a fan of the SEIU, I guess??? Romulox Nov 2015 #86
Yes, I am a fan of ALL unions and was once a member of SEIU MaggieD Nov 2015 #90
Always remember angrychair Nov 2015 #95
As is said... kjones Nov 2015 #88
This SEIU member asked that we continue our tradition of not endorsing in a primary. AllyCat Nov 2015 #24
You should consider leaving the union in an act of protest. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #26
No. I will not leave over this. May stop COPE contributions and give to Bernie and Russ AllyCat Nov 2015 #112
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2015 #114
K & R SunSeeker Nov 2015 #29
More Excellent News Florencenj2point0 Nov 2015 #30
TY, REC, and KICK DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #32
Good!!! Beacool Nov 2015 #34
k&r Starry Messenger Nov 2015 #35
Good union. I support them in this decision, as I support all unions, no matter who they endorse. Agnosticsherbet Nov 2015 #40
Dudebros be like Florencenj2point0 Nov 2015 #44
Snort. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #46
LMAO! MaggieD Nov 2015 #51
well done!!!! nt Sheepshank Nov 2015 #49
Swwweeeeetttt!!!! ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #55
I know some members who aren't surprised by this.... Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2015 #57
+1 n/t Alkene Nov 2015 #62
ok I agree my union hall has all Bernie stickers. Don't forget Postal Workers endorsed Bernie classykaren Nov 2015 #72
Just on the topic of Single Payer SHRED Nov 2015 #58
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2015 #82
This 2016 election is a big test, even for (or especially for) the unions. We will probably fail it. Ron Green Nov 2015 #59
Corporations and union leaders love HRC left-of-center2012 Nov 2015 #60
Ain't that the truth classykaren Nov 2015 #76
SEIU on its fight for $15/hour minimum wage: Sike! Romulox Nov 2015 #66
Hillary is not a fan of $15.00 azmom Nov 2015 #97
Because 15.00 won't work in every place in the country... Gloria Nov 2015 #105
With this endorsement, she has now been endorsed by unions representing more than TEN MILLION.... George II Nov 2015 #68
Can I get an Amen shenmue Nov 2015 #69
you mean the $$$$$$ making heads luv Hillary azurnoir Nov 2015 #75
You should check the link to the Press Release. It, like all the other endorsements, came after.... George II Nov 2015 #93
aha check thr facebook and twitter feeds not all is quite so rosy azurnoir Nov 2015 #94
Yes born and raised Republican. Married to President NAFTA. wonderful classykaren Nov 2015 #81
Like fighting against Single-Payer? SHRED Nov 2015 #87
"Organized Labor loves Clinton". Great bumper sticker. oasis Nov 2015 #113
But but but but!!!1!1 shenmue Nov 2015 #70
Ridiculous. She helped put TPP together. EEO Nov 2015 #73
They'll regret it. [nt] Jester Messiah Nov 2015 #74
KnR sheshe2 Nov 2015 #78
Unions are unfortunately a dying breed. floriduck Nov 2015 #85
Under the bus, SEIU members! MaggieD Nov 2015 #99
How about possibility 3? brooklynite Nov 2015 #101
I think it's one of the first two floriduck Nov 2015 #103
Secretary Clinton must be over the moon tishaLA Nov 2015 #89
Here comes the bus! ronnykmarshall Nov 2015 #91
LOL MaggieD Nov 2015 #98
She's fighting for $12 azmom Nov 2015 #100
on the positive side for Sanders 30% voted against Mrs. Clinton, that is a very large Union. Sunlei Nov 2015 #102
YAY! This is HUUUGE!!!! lunamagica Nov 2015 #109
 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
3. I will bookmark this for future discussion
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 01:36 PM
Nov 2015

specifically when HRC signs of on the TPP and we start hemorrhaging jobs.

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
14. SEIU has stated before that 75% of their members support Clinton
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 01:56 PM
Nov 2015
Union officials said the polls so far show Clinton with the highest level of support from members, with 75 percent of members feeling favorable toward her.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/09/hillary-clinton02016-unions-delay-endorsements-213922#ixzz3rlyEBltB
 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
17. Well that is the nail in the coffin for Bernie and Unions
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 01:59 PM
Nov 2015

I bet this one really stings for him. At 1.5 million members is this not the largest union in the country that was still up for grabs?

Omaha Steve

(99,685 posts)
19. Every 2 or 4 years the DU gets excited by a union endorsement
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 02:24 PM
Nov 2015

To bad I don't see this support 365 days a year in, year out.

Labor stories in LBN and GD are mostly ignored. There are a Labor and Socialist-Progressive groups with little participation.

Next time the SEIU strikes (like today) the Hillary fans will go stand and hold up a sign or wave at traffic?

http://www.pressdemocrat.com/news/4769493-181/union-of-sonoma-county-government?gallery=4773979

OS

oasis

(49,396 posts)
38. Huh? Give you a break? I was referring to the Clinton campaign threatening
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 02:59 PM
Nov 2015

SEIU. Bernie supporters have been making those accusations against Hill's campaign after every endorsement.

Maybe you should come around GD-P more often.

AllyCat

(16,207 posts)
41. Well I have not made those accusations. After reading the title,
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 03:06 PM
Nov 2015

I realized how I misunderstood your comment. Then the snarky finish made me remember I was on DU where we attack our own.

AllyCat

(16,207 posts)
25. I was part of a group encouraging them not to endorse
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 02:44 PM
Nov 2015

No threats. They just so wanted to get their necks on the line with someone.

gregcrawford

(2,382 posts)
21. One has to wonder...
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 02:27 PM
Nov 2015

... if SEIU members like Regina Sutton did ANY homework before stating, "“We are endorsing Hillary Clinton because she will stand up for working people like me when she’s in the White House, not the rich and powerful.”

Does she not know that the vast majority of Clinton's funding has come from "the rich and powerful, and NOT from "working people like her?”

Does she not know that just three days ago Clinton said, unequivocally, that she does NOT favor a wage hike to $15 an hour, but rather, thinks you should be happy to get $12?

Ms. Sutton is delusional if she believes for one nanosecond that Clinton's Wall Street buddies gave her all that money without fully expecting something in return.

By the way, how much do the executives at SEIU pay themselves? Has hobnobbing with the rich and powerful made them forget who they're supposed to be working for? It certainly wouldn't be the first time such a memory lapse has occurred.

Florencenj2point0

(435 posts)
36. link please
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 02:57 PM
Nov 2015
Does she not know that the vast majority of Clinton's funding has come from "the rich and powerful, and NOT from "working people like her?”


If you had a small business in Waco TX (with only local customers) where BTW, you can buy a nice house for 80k, you can not afford to pay your employees $15 an hour. What Hillary has said is she supports $15 in large cities and in states where they can afford it, but that it is too much in some places. She is right. Bernie is pandering to idiots or he is an idiot with his $15 nonsense.

angrychair

(8,730 posts)
64. That made that clear
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 03:57 PM
Nov 2015

We know where you fall on giving people a living wage. I'm sure the person working full time a Wal-Mart, in that "small town" and still having to use food stamps to make ends meet understands. Maybe if she got off her lazy ass and got two full time jobs, that would make people like you and your candidate happy.
With your candidate it is always a "compromise" or "real world solution" that still leaves people like me screwed. I have no idea how a person can make $200+ million dollars giving 20 minute speeches but she has no way of understanding walking everywhere you go and eating ketchup sandwiches (i don't currently but I have never forgot it).

gregcrawford

(2,382 posts)
104. Non sequiturs do not an argument make
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 06:38 PM
Nov 2015

The reference to Waco, TX has no relevance to the statement you quoted, but since you brought it up, I referred to Clinton's statement on Saturday, which is a matter of record, not to Sanders' support of SEIU's advocacy for $15/Hr.

Every point I raised is documented. Links? Here.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/jul/07/facebook-posts/meme-says-hillary-clintons-top-donors-are-banks-an/

http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/contrib.php?cid=N00000019&cycle=Career

https://shadowproof.com/2015/11/16/hillary-clinton-defends-wall-street-patronage-with-911-mcfeminism/

And calling people idiots does not reflect well on you or your candidate. Name-calling is the last resort of children on playgrounds, or those who cannot formulate coherent arguments to justify their positions.

quickesst

(6,280 posts)
92. Well...
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 04:48 PM
Nov 2015

...... "One has to wonder...
... if SEIU members like Regina Sutton did ANY homework before stating, "“We are endorsing Hillary Clinton because she will stand up for working people like me when she’s in the White House, not the rich and powerful.”

.... add another 1.5 million to the list of people Sanders supporters think are stupid. Oops, sorry, that would be 1 million people since 75% of the union members support Hillary. The "elite thinking club" is getting more and more exclusive everyday. Woe is us.

angrychair

(8,730 posts)
96. It is about the money
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 05:54 PM
Nov 2015

The article for the endorsement stated:
"Hillary Clinton will fight to raise wages and has stood up for the rights of workers to join together in a union. She has spoken out in support of the Fight for $15 movement: on the movement’s April 15 national day of action, during the New York wage board fight that resulted in $15 for all fast food workers in the state, for the $15 victories in Los Angeles city and county and again just last week, on Nov. 10, during the biggest day of action yet."
She does not endorse $15. While it would seem to be $12 until you really read how she qualifies the number saying that ultimately, it should be left up to the local conditions. She said in November Huff Post article, "I'm more comfortable saying let's get to $12," Clinton said at Grinnell, "in a reasonable, expeditious way." (bold mine)link: http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/56394247e4b0411d306eca12
You people are being "compromised" while your candidate makes millions of dollars doing 20 minute, closed door, no video, no transcript, speeches.

quickesst

(6,280 posts)
106. I think...
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 07:10 PM
Nov 2015

... her strategy on the minimum wage is sound, and logical. If Bernie gets the nomination, he will not be crowned king and decree $15 an hour for everyone. It doesn't work that way with our form of government and who we face across the aisle.
That being said, I really don't care how much money she makes. She is my logical choice and she will do a great job if elected. If one person makes 10 million dollars, and donates $1 million dollars to charity, and another person makes $1,000, and donates $100 to charity. Who do you think is making a bigger impact? Logic.

angrychair

(8,730 posts)
107. Sounds like teapublican talking points to me
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 08:06 PM
Nov 2015

Might makes right! Money talks, poor people walk.
While her and people like her, shunt more and more of the nation's available capital into their pockets, making people like me more and more poor by the day, that my opportunity or even the hope to ever change that for myself or my children is completely unrealistic at this point. The talking points of "compromise" and "real world solutions" are for their benefit, not ours.

So you realize that .08% (point zero eight) of people own 53% of all wages earned in America? That 99.8% of Americans make less than million dollars a year?

I will continue to advocate for a fair and equal voice for all Americans, regardless of their wealth.

quickesst

(6,280 posts)
108. The talking points...
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 08:31 PM
Nov 2015

...and real world solutions is what most people call reality. I'm pretty sure that Bernie's supporters will find, if elected, he will not become a benevolent king whose word is law. Disparaging someone is usually the last defense of desperation.......on the playground.

angrychair

(8,730 posts)
110. Which part?
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 09:14 PM
Nov 2015

So which part didn't you agree with?
The part where I told you that all people matter, not just rich people?
You were clear in your statement that wealthy matter more:
"If one person makes 10 million dollars, and donates $1 million dollars to charity, and another person makes $1,000, and donates $100 to charity. Who do you think is making a bigger impact? Logic."
The part where I was critical of you and your candidate's position on people on minimum wage should be happy with the$12/hr while she racks in millions for 20 minute speeches?

The part where I said:
So you realize that .08% (point zero eight) of people own 53% of all wages earned in America? That 99.8% of Americans make less than million dollars a year?

My biggest point of contention with your candidate and those that support her, like you, is you love to push the "compromise" the "real world solutions" the "best we can do". When have that ever helped most Democrats? When have we ever come out for the better? Bailing out Wall st will help us all (it didnt). $12 an hour is good enough (its not).the TPP is the gold standard of trade deals (no). Electing any Democrat president will fix our problems (it won't).
Why would Bernie Sanders be different? He stands for what he believes in. He engages his audience to take the fight to the streets and is standing right there with them. Bernie has no more power to do these things than your candidate does, the difference is he won't compromise and a strong voter and donor base means we don't have to. There are more of us than there are of them.

quickesst

(6,280 posts)
111. Still in denial..
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 09:25 PM
Nov 2015

...of reality. That's fine. Go with that. I'll stick to logic. A million dollars helps a hell of a lot more people then $1,000 does. Undeniable fact. And no where did I say rich people are more important than poor people, but go on making false accusations if it makes you feel better about yourself.

Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Florencenj2point0

(435 posts)
31. she is not center right
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 02:51 PM
Nov 2015

she and sanders voted the same 93% of the time. And saying she is untrustworthy is a republican meme.

Response to Florencenj2point0 (Reply #31)

AllyCat

(16,207 posts)
42. Then the 7% of the time they have not voted the same have been some real
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 03:07 PM
Nov 2015

Weight-bearers like voting for the Iraq War or Americans only need $12 an hour.

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
43. So SEIU under the bus?
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 03:12 PM
Nov 2015

It's getting a bit crowded under that bus. Shall be bring in some additional busses at this point.

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
50. Yes, I agree with Hillary - Fed rate should be $12
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 03:18 PM
Nov 2015

I'm not sure that counts as "railing" against $15 though. As is always the case states with a higher cost of living will increase it proportionally.

But what does that have to do with SEIU endorsing Clinton?

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
56. Oh good lord
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 03:34 PM
Nov 2015

So someone that supports an increase of $5 in the minimum wage instead of $8 dollars is your "evidence" that I am afraid of change? LMAO.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
61. So, your op showing you want change....
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 03:53 PM
Nov 2015

is proof that you don't want change. Sometimes you just have to laugh.

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
71. More than doubling the fed min wage is a non-starter politically
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 04:09 PM
Nov 2015

The $15 min wage proposal is a phase in. So let's phase in $12 first, and index it to COL. But you know, reality is that is not going to happen without a Dem congress, no matter who is president.

Do you think if we had a Dem congress and they all passed a bill raising the minimum wage to $15 that Hillary would veto it? Hell no. SEIU knows that, Hillary supporters know that, everyone knows that. Suggesting that we more than double the federal minimum wage is a non-starter politically. And Hillary is savvy enough to know that.

Again, what a senseless attack on Hillary. Glad the SEIU agrees.

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
83. That's because she knows doubling the federal min wage is a non-starter politically
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 04:19 PM
Nov 2015

Not gonna happen. And that is the real problem with your candidate in my opinion. He proposes pie in the sky stuff that has no chance of being enacted. That's a big reason he is losing, IMO. Including with unions.

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
90. Yes, I am a fan of ALL unions and was once a member of SEIU
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 04:40 PM
Nov 2015

They also were very, very helpful working on LGBT rights. I am not saying they are wrong to fight for $15. I am saying it's not going to happen on a federal basis. They need to do what we did in Seattle on work on the issue locally, which is exactly what they are doing. And I fully support them. But I'm not going to diss Hillary for proposing something that is more pragmatic for the US as a whole.

angrychair

(8,730 posts)
95. Always remember
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 05:30 PM
Nov 2015

You are the people, like your candidate, that talk about "compromise" and "real world solutions". While you are letting yourself get "compromised" your candidate makes millions of dollars for 20 minute speeches to Wall St firms and tech companies and teapublicans are running the tables on the DNC at the state and local level.
Ask for more! Expect more from your candidate!

AllyCat

(16,207 posts)
24. This SEIU member asked that we continue our tradition of not endorsing in a primary.
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 02:42 PM
Nov 2015

This SEIU member endorses Sanders.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
26. You should consider leaving the union in an act of protest.
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 02:45 PM
Nov 2015

I would seriously consider leaving an organization that I believe acted in bad faith.

AllyCat

(16,207 posts)
112. No. I will not leave over this. May stop COPE contributions and give to Bernie and Russ
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 02:37 AM
Nov 2015

But I will not leave. That is lunacy in my state.

Response to AllyCat (Reply #24)

Florencenj2point0

(435 posts)
30. More Excellent News
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 02:49 PM
Nov 2015
I love SEIU, I worked with them on Kerry's campaign in 2004. We won our district by several points more than his state average. They were a great bunch of people.
 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
57. I know some members who aren't surprised by this....
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 03:35 PM
Nov 2015

It's not the first time they've been unhappy with their union.

 

SHRED

(28,136 posts)
58. Just on the topic of Single Payer
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 03:40 PM
Nov 2015

Hillary is now going after Bernie.
SEIU, in my opinion, has made a mistake.

Response to SHRED (Reply #58)

Ron Green

(9,823 posts)
59. This 2016 election is a big test, even for (or especially for) the unions. We will probably fail it.
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 03:47 PM
Nov 2015

What Bernie Sanders is calling for is just too tall an order: for people to move away from their "consumer" identities and toward their "citizen" duties. For people to actively REJECT the bought politics of the conventional system and to work together for a truly new way to govern.

I'm sad, but not surprised, to see SEIU and my own union, AFSCME, endorse a candidate who embodies the bought system. We may be "ready for Hillary," but we're not ready for a real change.

Gloria

(17,663 posts)
105. Because 15.00 won't work in every place in the country...
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 07:03 PM
Nov 2015

costs of living vary greatly, insurance premiums vary, housing costs differ ....ex. my medicare supplement is 3 more expensive in NJ than here in NM! This is why people relocate in retirement!!!

It's reality...and it really is important to understand that these differences exist...

George II

(67,782 posts)
68. With this endorsement, she has now been endorsed by unions representing more than TEN MILLION....
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 04:03 PM
Nov 2015

....working Americans! Her opponent has been able to muster the support of unions representing less than 1/2 million.

Organized labor loves Clinton and her pro-worker, pro-middle class policies.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
75. you mean the $$$$$$ making heads luv Hillary
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 04:10 PM
Nov 2015

I'm not so sure about the rank and file

I've seen how this union 'defends' it's workers first hand and I was managment at the time

George II

(67,782 posts)
93. You should check the link to the Press Release. It, like all the other endorsements, came after....
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 05:05 PM
Nov 2015

...an EXTENSIVE survey of all membership.

Why is everything positive that comes out for Clinton have to be greeting with such negativity?

The bottom line is that people LIKE Clinton, her policies, and her viewpoints, they do not like Sanders' positions and policies.

It's like the polls that come out showing her extending her lead nationally and in most states - greeting with "they didn't ask enough young people", "they asked too many young people", not enough cell phone calls, not enough landline phones, yadda, yadda, yadda.

Face reality, this campaign is coming to a close, and probably sooner than anyone could have imagined.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
94. aha check thr facebook and twitter feeds not all is quite so rosy
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 05:14 PM
Nov 2015

although you could cherry pick posts and tweets as proof, myself I'll the sum quantity and my own experience

classykaren

(769 posts)
81. Yes born and raised Republican. Married to President NAFTA. wonderful
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 04:17 PM
Nov 2015

The big difference is the average Union worker will just be discouraged and not work for the Unions in registration of voters. I know I won't .Will not work or vote for the lesser of 2 evils anymore. This will even teach the Unions.

 

floriduck

(2,262 posts)
85. Unions are unfortunately a dying breed.
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 04:21 PM
Nov 2015

It is sad since unions were once the backbone of the American worker. The motivation to endorse a center-right candidate who gets big bucks from corporate America, leave me with the impression of one of two possibilities:

1. Either the decision was made by union leaders who expect something in return specifically for themselves, or

2. The membership will save the unions by voting for their best interests with someone who has a history of marching, picketing and focusing on raising middle class incomes.

We won't know the answer until the primaries are over. No "poll" is going to show how an individual Union member will vote.

brooklynite

(94,676 posts)
101. How about possibility 3?
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 06:03 PM
Nov 2015

Union members LIKE mainstream Democrats like Hillary Clinton, and you're the person out of touch with the Party?

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
98. LOL
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 05:59 PM
Nov 2015

Like some of us have been saying, looks like we'll need a whole fleet of buses to hold all the folks the Hillary haters want to throw under the bus on a routine basis.

azmom

(5,208 posts)
100. She's fighting for $12
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 06:01 PM
Nov 2015

Hillary Clinton will fight to raise wages and has stood up for the rights of workers to join together in a union. She has spoken out in support of the Fight for $15 movement: on the movement’s April 15 national day of action, during the New York wage board fight that resulted in $15 for all fast food workers in the state, for the $15 victories in Los Angeles city and county and again just last week, on Nov. 10, during the biggest day

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
102. on the positive side for Sanders 30% voted against Mrs. Clinton, that is a very large Union.
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 06:08 PM
Nov 2015

I really think Mrs. Clinton and Bernie Sanders should team-up.

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