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Latest New Hampshire HuffPost/Pollster graphic showing Hillary regaining the lead. (Original Post) DCBob Nov 2015 OP
Great way to start the weekend. Thanks riversedge Nov 2015 #1
Real Clear Average has Hillary up in NH also riversedge Nov 2015 #2
Cool!! DCBob Nov 2015 #3
To be fair, a large part of that is due to Gravis' 20+ point spread Godhumor Nov 2015 #5
True but I think the Huffpost/Pollster trend line deals with that. DCBob Nov 2015 #8
Sorry, that was more intended for the RCP aggregate not Pollster Godhumor Nov 2015 #10
No problem. I got that. DCBob Nov 2015 #25
Post removed Post removed Nov 2015 #4
LOL! DCBob Nov 2015 #7
You will never convince me that the facts of her authoritarian plan of governance is not JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #31
Well, I am sure you feel that way now.. DCBob Nov 2015 #34
My opinions don't change based on who others to vote for as the nominee JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #39
In what way is she "fascist"? George II Nov 2015 #44
. JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #46
Yep, my mother-in-law insisted Obama would have her wearing a burqa. SunSeeker Nov 2015 #37
Jury results on parent post. JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #40
Poll! artislife Nov 2015 #6
Oh, I get it! It's a drinking game! (HA-ha! Very amusing. Drink up!) NurseJackie Nov 2015 #9
In the name of sobriety... NCTraveler Nov 2015 #12
Hehe... SidDithers Nov 2015 #14
Another Saturday night artislife Nov 2015 #21
If they only drink if Sanders is leading in the polls, they've become teetotalers, or? George II Nov 2015 #45
This message was self-deleted by its author JTFrog Nov 2015 #15
YES!!! artislife Nov 2015 #20
Thanks for keeping these polls kicked! NurseJackie Nov 2015 #22
Sure...we all will see what we want from them, too! artislife Nov 2015 #24
Just drink on the polls Bernie is winning... SidDithers Nov 2015 #13
Oopf! NurseJackie Nov 2015 #16
Ouch! leftofcool Nov 2015 #36
New car smell has lost its scent. Nt NCTraveler Nov 2015 #11
Bernie has connected with a significant segment of the Democratic party.. DCBob Nov 2015 #23
I have said it before and it seems to show up in polls. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #28
Yes I agree. DCBob Nov 2015 #30
Correct and that is what I was saying. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #32
Ah, got it. DCBob Nov 2015 #33
There is a reason.... NCTraveler Nov 2015 #35
You really think this is real, don't you? reformist2 Nov 2015 #17
What's your alternate take on this? NurseJackie Nov 2015 #18
How could I? These polls are all bought and paid for by Hillary campaign. DCBob Nov 2015 #19
Fortunately Old Codger Nov 2015 #26
Well Bernie needs NH alot more than Hillary. DCBob Nov 2015 #27
That is correct. HubertHeaver Nov 2015 #38
and National--> Hillary Clinton 54.2% Bernie Sanders 30.1% riversedge Nov 2015 #29
Cool - but why 'East Sanderstan', Bob? forest444 Nov 2015 #41
I thought a bit clever.. no? DCBob Nov 2015 #42
That it is. forest444 Nov 2015 #43
These are nice numbers to see Gothmog Nov 2015 #47
I do like graphs and charts. Alfresco Nov 2015 #48

Godhumor

(6,437 posts)
5. To be fair, a large part of that is due to Gravis' 20+ point spread
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 11:36 AM
Nov 2015

I think NH is tight, so Gravis may be something of an outlier.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
8. True but I think the Huffpost/Pollster trend line deals with that.
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 11:43 AM
Nov 2015

It results in less than a two point lead for Hillary which sounds about right to me.

Godhumor

(6,437 posts)
10. Sorry, that was more intended for the RCP aggregate not Pollster
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 11:57 AM
Nov 2015

Like I said, I am completely onboard with the data showing NH is tight.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
25. No problem. I got that.
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 01:22 PM
Nov 2015

RCP just does simple basic averages of latest polls. Not too sophisticated.

Response to DCBob (Original post)

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
7. LOL!
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 11:39 AM
Nov 2015

Lets hope the Bernsters dont get that disturbed. We need to help them understand Hillary is not the evil fascist corporatist they think she is. It reminds of how the Republicans imagined what would happen if the "evil" Obama became President.

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
31. You will never convince me that the facts of her authoritarian plan of governance is not
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 01:37 PM
Nov 2015

fascist, corporatist, and a representative of the MIC. We aren't "confused", we just don't have wool over our eyes.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
34. Well, I am sure you feel that way now..
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 01:41 PM
Nov 2015

but I hope you might change your mind when we get closer to Nov next year and the choice becomes more clear.

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
39. My opinions don't change based on who others to vote for as the nominee
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 01:56 PM
Nov 2015

I don't have a flexible relationship with facts.

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
46. .
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 03:11 PM
Nov 2015

This article by "Yves Smith" (Susan Webber) is similar to my perspective of what fascism is:
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/11/mussolini-style-corporatism-aka-fascism-on-the-rise-in-the-us.html

I will add to her representation of that corrupt and fascist system: her disdain for constitutionally protected rights such as the right to privacy (see her support of banning encryption services, a very authoritarian move). Thought there are other examples of her disdain for the right to privacy.

SunSeeker

(51,715 posts)
37. Yep, my mother-in-law insisted Obama would have her wearing a burqa.
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 01:52 PM
Nov 2015

Some Bernie supporters appear to think Hillary will be another Hitler. And many lack humor, as evidenced by the 7-0 hide of NurseJackie's goofy cartoon. Sheesh.

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
40. Jury results on parent post.
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 02:01 PM
Nov 2015

On Sat Nov 21, 2015, 12:28 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

On that day, Bernie's keyboard warriors will be out in full force.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=834621

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

This post will continue to make things worse on the DU. It is not funny.

JURY RESULTS

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Explanation: Holy cow NurseJackie, rough day at the hospital? Please take a timeout from DU, you are way over the top with your nastiness.
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Explanation: Pretty pathetic, even by current DU standards. We should keep the focus on the candidates, not demonize the supporters and their enthusiasm. Of course, one candidate is pretty weak on the issues so that explains this post.
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NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
12. In the name of sobriety...
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 12:13 PM
Nov 2015

I think they should only drink if Sanders is leading in the poll. If they do it when Clinton is in the lead I would feel like I'm supporting binge drinking.

Response to NurseJackie (Reply #9)

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
13. Just drink on the polls Bernie is winning...
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 12:14 PM
Nov 2015

you can be the Designated Driver for everyone else.

Sid

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
23. Bernie has connected with a significant segment of the Democratic party..
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 12:59 PM
Nov 2015

but he cant seem to grow it beyond that segment. Its not surprising though... it was clear to me from the beginning he would stall at some point. He's just too narrow and limited.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
28. I have said it before and it seems to show up in polls.
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 01:31 PM
Nov 2015

As far as Democratic Party supporters he is only connecting with what we use to refer to as Kucinich supporters. He has not broadened from that support. I will say they are some of the best the party has to offer. The rest of his support is coming from outside of the party.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
30. Yes I agree.
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 01:33 PM
Nov 2015

But maybe a bit more than that. I dont think Kucinich ever polled as high as Bernie is now.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
32. Correct and that is what I was saying.
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 01:38 PM
Nov 2015

The support above that of what we saw from Kucinich is from outside the party.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
35. There is a reason....
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 01:43 PM
Nov 2015

Paul has volunteers handing out literature at Sanders events. Sanders has taken a noticeable percentage of his support. These thing happen for a reason, not blind luck.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
18. What's your alternate take on this?
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 12:27 PM
Nov 2015

Even if the percentages were swapped, giving Bernie the lead, it wouldn't speak very well of Vernie's chances at getting the nomination.

 

Old Codger

(4,205 posts)
26. Fortunately
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 01:25 PM
Nov 2015

You seem to omit the margin for error on this one...2 points more or less are not really very telling are they.. Looks tome like pretty wide open yet and pretty damning for the coronation to take place quite yet..

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
27. Well Bernie needs NH alot more than Hillary.
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 01:27 PM
Nov 2015

So just being close is a victory of sorts for the Clinton team.

forest444

(5,902 posts)
41. Cool - but why 'East Sanderstan', Bob?
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 02:15 PM
Nov 2015

Frankly, it sounds like something you might read on a Breibart comment board.

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