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If the environment were a bank it would have been saved by now.
7:56 AM - 23 Nov 2015
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https://twitter.com/BernieSanders/status/668820306270662656?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)roguevalley
(40,656 posts)sorechasm
(631 posts)Biodiversity, Latent Energy, unique genomes, endangered species, these are all environmental banks that are super stressed right now. The planet is willing to loan and share from this bank as long as it is allowed to reproduce and diversify. Unfortunately, one species keeps drawing loans without any intention to pay off its debts.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/E._O._Wilson
I suspect E.O. Wilson would welcome Bernie's interpretation.
bvf
(6,604 posts)Sure as shit some idiot(s) will attempt to "fact-check" this.
Most likely the "expert" who scored Bush 100% on.his climate change comments.
Always good to see him coming out swinging. He gave Clinton an excellent opportunity to act like an adult early on, and she fucked it up. Wait for fresh hair-on-fire screeches about "attacks."
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)WillyT
(72,631 posts)MaggieD
(7,393 posts)Someone on Bernie's staff simply stole it to pretend he said it.
Ned_Devine
(3,146 posts)pablo_marmol
(2,375 posts)Ned_Devine
(3,146 posts)pablo_marmol
(2,375 posts)Edited to add:
GO BERNIE!!!!!
Javaman
(62,530 posts)this isn't Saturday night at the Comedy Store.
Bubzer
(4,211 posts)Ned_Devine
(3,146 posts)Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)Chico Man
(3,001 posts)It is really winning hearts and minds?
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)MaggieD
(7,393 posts).... As some brilliant quote by Bernie. Anyone can tweet out an Internet meme. What cracks me up is that he tweeted like he thought of it.
Bubzer
(4,211 posts)The brilliance of that quote comes from being consistent with his stance and his campaign... not from being new or unique.
"he tweeted like he thought of it" - No, you interpreted it that way. I'm certain there's not even a hint of suggestion that he claims it to be his original idea. But feel free to provide whatever proof you have to the contrary.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)link or slink
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)senz
(11,945 posts)And we need him SOON. Before it's too late.
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)blackspade
(10,056 posts)INdemo
(6,994 posts)Last edited Tue Nov 24, 2015, 08:23 AM - Edit history (1)
The reason for the attack dogs from the campaign on here..
Go Bernie
We are going to win this thing !!!!
Rockyj
(538 posts)Please contact this station! Its so BS what they did!
appalachiablue
(41,143 posts)Would it help to make this an OP & X-Post in the MD-DC-VA Groups here? WJLA/ABC really needs quick feedback about this before Thursday. They really screwed up.
appalachiablue
(41,143 posts)Trajan
(19,089 posts)The shared resources for all species on earth ... It should never be wasted or squandered ...
raouldukelives
(5,178 posts)Some think our children need a debt free, financially secure future which they say they can achieve by massive, thoughtless, pointless growth and more tax cuts.
I just think they want one with food and semi-dependable growing seasons. You know, those things that allowed us to evolve over millions of years into the glorious testament to progress we are and the one thing more thoughtless growth will assure they never experience.
retrowire
(10,345 posts)YES HE DID
BERNIE 2016
Chico Man
(3,001 posts)Yeah, I get it. Bank, environment, hahaha. Clever, cheap, ineffective.
Indydem
(2,642 posts)The TARP program, bank bailouts, etc. SAVED THE ECONOMY. PERIOD. FULL STOP.
THE PROGRAM MADE MONEY!
It is Keseyan economics in effect. How many of you Sandernistas are too ignorant to realize that the bailout is exactly what you want, but your deep seated hatred for banks and business have you completely blinded?
Tarp made $13.5 Billion dollars, paid back to the US treasury.
The EPA budget in the meantime has been $56 Billion.
We spent more saving the environment than bailing out banks.
Logic and math win again.
Ilsa
(61,695 posts)I wish there had been more programs for the rest of us that lost jobs, homes, half of their life's savings, not just the banks. Sure, the govt made money. That hasn't restored my beaten down 401(k).
Yes, more money has been spent on the EPA. And yet we are still losing species, dealing with corps avoiding responsibility for poisoning us, etc. We're killing the planet. Maybe we need to give it at least the same priority as the economy. That's what the tweet, by whomever whenever, speaks too.
fasttense
(17,301 posts)The middle class was on their own and the poor would just continue to grow in ranks and starve. No middle class homeowners got NOTHING. So the economy was never saved. The middle class and poor continued to struggle. A new crash is coming and it's because the rest of us never got a bailout. Bankruptcy is still at record highs. People still have underwater mortgages and only crappy jobs are available for college grads.
And your argument is really weird. So people don't make money off the environment? Factory farmers and Monsanto are Not making money? Those banksters would not be alive to grab up all our tax dollars if Not for the environment. So how exactly are they going to turn all that money they were given into breathable air, drinkable water and livable weather conditions?
Yeah right the economy was saved, more like the banks and capital were saved. The rest of us were left to struggle through as best we could WITHOUT BAILOUTS.
Dcoast
(77 posts)there were protections in place to prevent the whole damn thing from collapsing in the first place. Bill Clinton signed the nail in the coffin when glass-steagall was repealed.
it's not about whether or not TARP made the government money. It's about the damn principle that the economy should never have been gambled with in the first place, and the elite are doing the same thing with the environment.
again, no one gives a rats ass if the government made money or not. we should have never been in that position in the first place, and we should not be in that position now with the environment.
Bubzer
(4,211 posts)The TARP program and bank bailouts should never have been needed in the first place. Yes, they helped avert the economic destruction that they're responsible for in the first place... but at a significant cost to the taxpayer. The overwhelming majority of banks saw the program as a no-strings-attached windfall that could be used to pay down debt, acquire other businesses or invest for the future. In other words, the banks used the money to continue their corruption rather than clean up their books.
Add to that... the TARP program is still being used today!
http://www.forbes.com/sites/mikecollins/2015/07/14/the-big-bank-bailout/
It's also not paid off:
http://www.politico.com/story/2012/01/report-tarp-still-owes-133b-071995
Lastly, the EPA's budget is $8,139,887,000... (A little over 8 billion) rather than the 56 billion you claim.
http://www2.epa.gov/planandbudget/budget
look at the bright side, you were right about one thing; Logic and math win again.
BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)niyad
(113,332 posts)Uncle Joe
(58,365 posts)Thanks for the thread, kpete.