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Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 02:48 PM Nov 2015

Bernie Sanders leads among Democrats who are under 50 years old.

ABC News/Washington Post poll:

Democrats under 50:
Hillary Clinton: 43%
Bernie Sanders: 53%

But Bernie Sanders is doing badly among Democrats 50 and older.

Democrats 50 and older:
Hillary Clinton: 79%
Bernie Sanders: 14%

Democrats overall:
Hillary Clinton: 60%
Bernie Sanders: 34%



http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/sanders-gop-steady-terrorism-worries-back-poll/story?id=35337895

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Bernie Sanders leads among Democrats who are under 50 years old. (Original Post) Eric J in MN Nov 2015 OP
This 54 year old is voting for Bernie Politicalboi Nov 2015 #1
...and this 50 yr old tk2kewl Nov 2015 #23
This one too. PotatoChip Nov 2015 #34
And this 58 year old and my 52 yo spouse are both voting Bernie! peacebird Nov 2015 #26
This 67-1/2 year old is voting for Bernie! n/t Hepburn Nov 2015 #2
That's a shocking split when you look at how polls overall are so heavily pro-Clinton. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2015 #3
IMO, combination of likely voter screens and technology. jeff47 Nov 2015 #5
In before "they kids don't vote!!!" jeff47 Nov 2015 #4
So the youth still tuned out for Obama in very high numbers in 2012. Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #6
Actually, no. Youth turnout was down. Which is why his margin in 2012 was half 2008. (nt) jeff47 Nov 2015 #7
So you're giving ammunition to people who say "they kids don't vote!!!" Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #11
Turnout was down across the board. Not just "the kids". (nt) jeff47 Nov 2015 #12
Because is wasn't only the youth that were disappointed in Obama. cui bono Nov 2015 #17
They didn't have anything to be excited about in 2012. senz Nov 2015 #39
55, voting for Bernie. CentralMass Nov 2015 #8
This 55 yo LWolf Nov 2015 #9
Some polls include cell phones. NT Eric J in MN Nov 2015 #41
It's phone habits and protocols LWolf Nov 2015 #43
With age comes wisdom. JaneyVee Nov 2015 #10
Aren't you a millenial? Kentonio Nov 2015 #18
I am. And infinitely wiser than I was even a decade ago. JaneyVee Nov 2015 #24
Physically and mathematically Impossible. PowerToThePeople Nov 2015 #28
They didn't Old Codger Nov 2015 #13
Women over 50 outnumber men over 50 by a 3:2 ratio. n/t lumberjack_jeff Nov 2015 #14
This 58 yo woman is voting Bernie! peacebird Nov 2015 #27
In my family, friends circle fredamae Nov 2015 #15
40's and voting for Clinton. I must be wise beyond my years. nt. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #16
No, you've aged prematurely. Vattel Nov 2015 #42
FOUR 50+ in this house are voting for Bernie. in_cog_ni_to Nov 2015 #19
I'm 50 UglyGreed Nov 2015 #20
It doesn't changes things dramatically but once again, the age Jarqui Nov 2015 #21
Im 61 and my wife is 55 and we are voting for Bernie litlbilly Nov 2015 #22
Just Turned 60... Bernie All The Way... WillyT Nov 2015 #25
Crazy ...I'm almost 60 Trajan Nov 2015 #29
Everyone, please continue to state your age and preferred candidate. firebrand80 Nov 2015 #30
I am under 50 Robbins Nov 2015 #31
I don't know who they are polling but bkkyosemite Nov 2015 #32
Woo hoo, I'm a 14 percenter!! BuelahWitch Nov 2015 #33
But Bernie Sanders is doing badly among Democrats 50 and older.... Historic NY Nov 2015 #35
I've never missed a GE vote PotatoChip Nov 2015 #37
Those damn kids!!!! UglyGreed Nov 2015 #36
Well over 50. 100% pro-Bernie. senz Nov 2015 #38
Eric, I want you to know senz Nov 2015 #40
Shocking split. It may boil down to the idea that older people are afraid of the word "socialist." reformist2 Nov 2015 #44
This is why her supporters are so wedded to the Status Quo--it has benefited them. nt Romulox Nov 2015 #45

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
3. That's a shocking split when you look at how polls overall are so heavily pro-Clinton.
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 02:55 PM
Nov 2015

It seems to suggest that over 50s are presumed to be far more likely to vote than those under, and predominate in 'likely voters' used in other polls.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
5. IMO, combination of likely voter screens and technology.
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 03:01 PM
Nov 2015

On the technology front, younger voters generally don't have landlines, and a whole lot of the polls are 80% or more landline. Also, younger voters generally will not answer a call from a number they don't recognize. So they are not likely to pick up when a pollster calls their cell phone.

And some of the "likely voter" screens are pretty absurd. In a decent number of them, the voter has to have voted in the last contested presidential primary...which means 2008. So they throw out everyone under 26. And there wasn't exactly an exciting presidential primary in 2012, which causes too many voters to get tossed even when the screen doesn't go back to 2008.

It's been known for some time that polling has been getting more and more inaccurate due to a worse and worse sample. In a few months, we'll see just how bad it is this time around.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
6. So the youth still tuned out for Obama in very high numbers in 2012.
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 03:08 PM
Nov 2015

The meme that vast swaths of disappointed youths stayed home in 2012 because Obama sold them out is incorrect.

Thank you for killing that meme.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
17. Because is wasn't only the youth that were disappointed in Obama.
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 03:51 PM
Nov 2015

And those who were disappointed in his admin are certainly not going to come out for Hillary.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
9. This 55 yo
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 03:26 PM
Nov 2015

female Democrat is voting for Sanders.

Of course, I'll never be included in a poll since I don't have a land line, and all but family/friend calls on my cell phone go straight to voice mail.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
43. It's phone habits and protocols
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 05:58 PM
Nov 2015

that affect whether or not I'd ever be included. When I'm billed by the minute, I don't spend my minutes on anonymous calls. If I don't know the caller, they go to voice mail, and if it's important, they'll leave a message and I'll call back.

 

PowerToThePeople

(9,610 posts)
28. Physically and mathematically Impossible.
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 04:34 PM
Nov 2015

Just an fyi.

The human brain has less than infinity possible connections, so infinity can never be achieved.

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
20. I'm 50
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 04:08 PM
Nov 2015

and my wife is 48, we are voting for Bernie. BTW I do have a landline but never answer the phone if I don't recognize the number. IMO most people do the same, well those who have caller ID that is.

Jarqui

(10,126 posts)
21. It doesn't changes things dramatically but once again, the age
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 04:08 PM
Nov 2015

demographics favor Hillary a little. I'm seeing it in a number of the polls. I'm using an average of the 2008 & 2012 age demographics.

If you extrapolate to try to adjust for it, Clinton falls from +26 to +20.2 so I'm not whining about peanuts.

The weird thing is that I seem to be seeing this in a lot of polls - a pattern. Don't know why as they should know more about this stuff than me. ??

firebrand80

(2,760 posts)
30. Everyone, please continue to state your age and preferred candidate.
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 04:37 PM
Nov 2015

It is highly relevant to this discussion.

Thanks,
Management.

Robbins

(5,066 posts)
31. I am under 50
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 04:48 PM
Nov 2015

and voting for bernie at age 41.

nice to see 30-49 also considered good group for Bernie.

bkkyosemite

(5,792 posts)
32. I don't know who they are polling but
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 04:51 PM
Nov 2015

I'm 69 and Feeling the Bern. I cannot fathom that the Boomers would not support Bernie. They know the truth when they see it. I think this poll is wrong.

Historic NY

(37,451 posts)
35. But Bernie Sanders is doing badly among Democrats 50 and older....
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 05:00 PM
Nov 2015

the ones that reliability come out to vote.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
38. Well over 50. 100% pro-Bernie.
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 05:28 PM
Nov 2015

Oh, to be 50 again. What's funny is that the pro-Hillary NYTimes tried, early in his candidacy, to describe his supporters as old hippie types and, in their exceedingly scant coverage of him, always showed him surrounded by earthy looking gray-haired folks. Ol' has-been Bernie. Never saw a photo of his tens of thousands of cheering millennials.

Corporate America, Hillary America, watch out: the future belongs to Bernie Sanders' ideas.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
40. Eric, I want you to know
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 05:45 PM
Nov 2015

that the latest HRC campaign anti-Bernie tactic is to pretend she's already won the primary and is now up against the Republicans.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/24/us/politics/hillary-clinton-looks-past-primaries-in-strategy-to-defeat-bernie-sanders.html

Interestingly, this dovetails quiet well with her DU supporters' tactic of emphasizing her ratings and making comments to the effect that "it's all over."

If no one else has done an OP on this, you might want to.

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