2016 Postmortem

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts) Mon Nov 23, 2015, 03:29 PM Nov 2015

Eight climate scientists grade candidates for scientific accuracy, Bernie ranks lowest among Dems

http://www.eagletribune.com/region/ap-fact-check-most-gop-candidates-flunk-climate-science/article_e0c82ae8-9479-523d-b205-8d49f0b69d01.html

WASHINGTON (AP) — When it comes to climate science, two of the three Democratic presidential candidates are A students, while most of the Republican contenders are flunking, according to a panel of scientists who reviewed candidates' comments.

At the request of The Associated Press, eight climate and biological scientists graded for scientific accuracy what a dozen top candidates said in debates, interviews and tweets, using a 0 to 100 scale.

To try to eliminate possible bias, the candidates' comments were stripped of names and given randomly generated numbers, so the professors would not know who made each statement they were grading. Also, the scientists who did the grading were chosen by professional scientific societies.

Former Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton had the highest average score at 94. Three scientists did not assign former Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley a score, saying his statements mostly were about policy, which they could not grade, instead of checkable science

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Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, with an 87, had the lowest score among the Democrats, dinged for an exaggeration when he said global warming could make Earth uninhabitable. Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush scored the highest among Republicans, 64, but one grader gave him a perfect 100. Bush was the only Republican candidate who got a passing grade on climate in the exercise.

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Eight climate scientists grade candidates for scientific accuracy, Bernie ranks lowest among Dems (Original Post) Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 OP

K AND R! JaneyVee Nov 2015 #1

I Guess We'll Never Know As.... global1 Nov 2015 #2

That statement got Bernie "dinged" KansDem Nov 2015 #10

We all know Hillary would have supported the TPP Politicalboi Nov 2015 #3

You appear to be confused Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #4

how about what they'd do about it? tk2kewl Nov 2015 #6

I'm pretty sure the scientists graded them on climate science only Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #8

I'm not confused Politicalboi Nov 2015 #11

Uh, it wasn't a poll. There were grades given by top climate scientists. leftofcool Nov 2015 #5

And hillary is for Fracking. They only rated based on what candidates SAY about climate change. peacebird Nov 2015 #14

I wonder how the guy who gave Bush 100 scored Bernie? immoderate Nov 2015 #7

Republicans just suck. Love the "two parties are the same" morons. nt. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #9

Some humans will survive? TM99 Nov 2015 #12

I think I'd rather go with the scientists than an anonymous poster on a message board Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #13

Then you did not read the links TM99 Nov 2015 #15

You give Sanders "a resounding A" Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #16

Again, you did not read the links TM99 Nov 2015 #18

Any of our 3 candidates are better than any of those in the clown car on any issue! zappaman Nov 2015 #17

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)

1. K AND R!

Reply to Cali_Democrat (Original post)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 03:32 PM

Nov 2015

global1

(25,253 posts)

2. I Guess We'll Never Know As....

Reply to Cali_Democrat (Original post)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 03:33 PM

Nov 2015

no one will be around to report when the earth becomes uninhabitable.

KansDem

(28,498 posts)

10. That statement got Bernie "dinged"

Reply to global1 (Reply #2)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 03:47 PM

Nov 2015

Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, with an 87, had the lowest score among the Democrats, dinged for an exaggeration when he said global warming could make Earth uninhabitable.

I guess these scientists believe there will always be humans, regardless of global warming and climate change.

Good news for the fossil-fuels industry!

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)

3. We all know Hillary would have supported the TPP

Reply to Cali_Democrat (Original post)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 03:34 PM

Nov 2015

Bernie was out there rallying against it the WHOLE time. Hillary just sat on the fence to see which way the wind was blowing. I've never heard O'Malley talk about climate change. I don't put much faith in this poll.

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)

4. You appear to be confused

Reply to Politicalboi (Reply #3)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 03:37 PM

Nov 2015

The scientists ranked the candidates based on what they said about climate change.

Did they also grade them on TPP?

tk2kewl

(18,133 posts)

6. how about what they'd do about it?

Reply to Cali_Democrat (Reply #4)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 03:43 PM

Nov 2015

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)

8. I'm pretty sure the scientists graded them on climate science only

Reply to tk2kewl (Reply #6)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 03:45 PM

Nov 2015

I don't think TPP even figured into this assessment.

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)

11. I'm not confused

Reply to Cali_Democrat (Reply #4)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 03:54 PM

Nov 2015

TPP does matter with climate change. Did they get an answer from Hillary about the TPP?

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)

5. Uh, it wasn't a poll. There were grades given by top climate scientists.

Reply to Politicalboi (Reply #3)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 03:39 PM

Nov 2015

peacebird

(14,195 posts)

14. And hillary is for Fracking. They only rated based on what candidates SAY about climate change.

Reply to Politicalboi (Reply #3)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 04:12 PM

Nov 2015

Hillary can say anything, she has proven that by parroting Warren and Bernie throughout the campaign. Until now, when she once more pivots hard right.
Hillary can say anything, and swap sides claiming she evolved! Then evolve back again.

Good old "we came, we saw, he died" .....