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the type of poverty people were living in from non-working to working, period. In the '90's when this obscenity was passed minimum wage employers-fast food places janitorial jobs ect couldn't hire people, we were in a boom economy and the low end employers were having to give people fancy perks like breaks and paid holidays off, ya know that 'pork barrel' kind of stuff, to the rescue comes Bill who essentially created an almost endless pool of near slave labor, from poor women and their children over 16 .
Needless to say Hillary has defended this move -

A great betrayal & your analysis on target - "an almost endless pool of near slave labor."

Maybe I am not understanding what she means by anti-poverty program, but I think AFDC should have been an anti-poverty program. What is wrong with anti-poverty programs? Anti-poverty programs can be used to get people out of poverty while also giving them the skills necessary to provide themselves with a better life. Programs like AFDC, Section 8 housing, SNAP benefits, and TANF should have education, job training, and employment components. The best way to get people off the government dole is to help them get a good paying job. People with poor paying jobs cannot provide for themselves.

No one has tried to actually make this country get back to work since FDR.

This means using the muscle of the people and the power of the government to really do public works for the common good.

Sure there have been space programs and PeaceCorps/Vista but they are drips in a growing bucket of what really needs to be done.

Perhaps some would view our foreign escapades (Vietnam, Nicaragua, Iran, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, etc.) as public works - ways to get our young unemployed off the streets and into the kill zones.

Anti-poverty shouldn't mean creating jobs in the war machine. It should mean training people to do good work - here and around this plant.

but AFDC was a far better approach than TANF because it recognized that the reasons people are poor and the reasons some have a harder time escaping poverty are too complex to solve in a day or even a year so while they're poor, let's throw them a lifeline. TANF is based on the judgmental model that poor people are that way because they don't try hard enough.

AFDC alone was never meant to be the solution. It was meant to be direct aid to people who were needy for as long as they needed. Other programs were available to help those who had multiple barriers to self-sufficiency -- education completion, job training, etc.

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IMO I believe this was the beginning of the Democratic Party's lurch to the right.

And the old toe sucker brought in brilliant campaign strategist Mark Penn with him.

Since Hillary often likes to tout her husband's record...except when it's inconvenient in instances like this. Oh and there's plenty of material to dig up about her support of welfare "reform"...

Thanks to their tireless efforts, maybe we can all enjoy the coming decades of a GOP-packed SCOTUS. Bravo!

that's what their cousins the 3rdwayers say anyway

how stupid is that?

These are the primaries, what are we supposed to talk about, the weather?

mentioning Hill or her two PRIMARY rivals.

...that obese people die as they get older. And that kids who decide to start shooting at people may not be headed in the best direction, and cause grief for their parents.

What new problems will welfare reform fail to solve? That huffing paint is bad for you? Pulling out your dick and peeing on a cop might not end well? The possibilities are endless.

But, as the writer you quote clearly concludes, this is all Clinton's fault. Probably Obama's as well. Who knows?

We're all going to be dead in a hundred years as well. Something new to think about, that absolutely must be the fault of Democrats. Indeed.

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