2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWill Bernie remain a registered Democrat . . .
. . . once he's lost the nomination?
immoderate
(20,885 posts)--imm
bobbobbins01
(1,681 posts)Nice.
artislife
(9,497 posts)Karma13612
(4,555 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)Or will he take a cabinet post, as Secretary of Labor?
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)they'll vote for Trump are chain-yanking. It's their way of saying "All y'all suck!"
Trump will not be the GOP nominee. The Republicans have "super delegates" too. And they have an RNC with oodles of cash. AND donors who will "fall in line" to crush The Donald, even if they have to "accommodate" a mutually agreed upon compromise by backing a second choice in exchange for a bit of quid pro quo.
But you never move too soon. Don't spend money a second before it's needed.
Dont you get the impression that he's implodimg on purpose? Making fun of the reporter was a bit much.
MADem
(135,425 posts)He finds himself in this Chauncy Gardener type situation, though, where every stupidity is regarded as quirky genius.
I do think the reporter thing, plus the Muslims Celebrate in NJ thing, plus the "I could see the bodies falling from my house" thing (shades of Palin) will eventually catch up with him and trip him.
If not, he'll be standing up there, calling his audience assholes and idiots, while they continue to cheer! Idiocracy!!!
Karma13612
(4,555 posts)he has a huge ego, there is no way he will simply announce that he is leaving the race. That would be showing defeat and completely out of character for this blowhard.
He needs to get his poll numbers so low that it gets him off the debate stage. But, the more awful he talks and behaves, it seems the right wing teahadis love him.
He built this monster and now he has to figure out how to neutralize it.
LuvLoogie
(7,058 posts)And like a stray animal. It is now his pet.
MADem
(135,425 posts)Maybe he needs to go after someone's granny next!!
Karma13612
(4,555 posts)He is an American. Where are you from?
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,909 posts)will she switch to the GOP?
Yes, that's a stupid question. So is the OP.
Chan790
(20,176 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... doing what suits his political needs.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Autumn
(45,120 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)Autumn
(45,120 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)those leftovers. Totally understandable!
Autumn
(45,120 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)Hey, people need fruit!
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... who knows what his future holds after losing the primary? But it will be interesting to watch. I'm looking forward to seeing it unfold. I'm sure he'll do what's best.
merrily
(45,251 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Skidmore
(37,364 posts)pure grade school.
merrily
(45,251 posts)to the content of Reply 20 and the rest of the exchanges. You obviously have a different opinion about all that than I did and, for some reason, you obviously found it necessary or desirable to share your opinion with me, even though you were not involved in the original exchanges and the two people who were involved had tapped out Friday. I hope no Bernie supporter bothers NurseJackie any further with this in the mistaken belief that it would somehow help me or help anything, really. None of that matters, either. Have a great day.
Well, he can't win either way.
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)That's nice
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)Yesterday you said you would vote for Donald Trump if Sanders gets the nomination. Are we supposed to take anything you say serious after that?
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... parody and sarcasm without the sarcasm emoji to spell it out for you is your own problem not mine. Whether you believe me or "get me" or take me seriously or not is of no concern to me.
Karma13612
(4,555 posts)He is running on the democratic ticket because he knows that running third party would get him no-where in a 2 party system that this country currently runs on.
He is running because he believes he can win. He doesn't want to split the votes and doesn't want to be a Ralph Nader.
He is a member of Democratic Caucus of the US Senate. One of two independents.
He is trying to raise awareness of all the issues this country is facing, and providing his solutions to them.
He is being honest and passionate and trying to engage as many people as possible to be part of his revolution. A revolution who's purpose is to give the middle class back their country. The middle class that has been losing for 40+ years at the hands of republicans, Blue Dog Dems, and Third-way triagulating democrats like Hillary Clinton.
I respect that you are supporting Hillary.
I think Hillary is bad for the middle Class.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Bleacher Creature
(11,258 posts)The thing is, he was always a Democrat on the issues. The whole "independent" and "Democratic Socialist" thing was all about grandstanding, and allowed him to bash the Democratic Party as part of his " a pox on both your houses" schtick.
Barney Frank, who is as liberal as anyone - including Sanders - has been calling him out on this crap for a long time. Seriously, it's all grandstanding.
enid602
(8,659 posts)Barn's critique of Betn was scathing. And Barn does not come off as being petty or mean spirited.
merrily
(45,251 posts)the donors of any Party.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)Frank seems to be the one who was grandstanding.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)I could not care less.
BlueStateLib
(937 posts)You dont change the system from within the Democratic Party.
My own feeling is that the Democratic Party is ideologically bankrupt.
We have to ask ourselves, Why should we work within the Democratic Party if we dont agree with anything the Democratic Party says?
Read more: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/08/bernie-sanders-2016-democrats-121181#ixzz3q2Yjz9Og
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)lol Hillary supporters just keep getting more and more vicious with their made up nonsense.
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)Look up his own words, very easy to find. In fact there was one link supplied one post up.
He runs on the Democratic ticket only for political expediency and cheap votes. And there are plenty around to give him just that.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)Thanks in advance.
It's the Third Way® that scorns the Democratic party and is ruining it with right wing (Republican) war and economic policies.
Chan790
(20,176 posts)Provable statements of fact are immune from allegations of slander. The Democratic Party is ideologically-bankrupt and will remain so until it purges the Clintonites and DLC from its membership.
Karma13612
(4,555 posts)The Blue Traveller
(60 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)in contempt.
I assume he will go back to his ivory tower and look down his nose at democrats like usual.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)And she will not.
enid602
(8,659 posts)Anyone who does not bend to his (or should I say his supporters') demands, is corrupt, beholden or incompetent.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)DWS is contemptible, at best. Corrupt at worst.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)If you are going to be intolerant to the board then are you leaving this member out?
Is the reward for Sanders running on the DNC continuous conspiracy theories? If DWS was as contemptuous towards Sanders as some of the demeaning post theme could be something to complain. There was a complaint about not enough debates and this was throwing the primary to Hillary when the debates has proven not to be Sanders finest moments. The fact of Hillary's polling numbers staying high is because of opinions she is the most qualified. DWS is not responsible for the high polling numbers.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)-none
(1,884 posts)The rank and file, no.
Bernie Sanders is what this country needs. Look around DU and tell me which are real Liberal, Democrats and which are not.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)If you support Hillary like the majority of democrats do, that means you aren't a real liberal democrat, is that what BS fans are saying? LOLZ
After Hillary Clinton wins the nomination I guess the libertarians backing him will have to snipe at her from the sidelines with the republicans
February 1st, can't wait!
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)She WILL NOT win the general.
She's damaged goods.
November 2016 - you better hope you can't wait!
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)Knock it off already
workinclasszero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 08:25 AM
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76. So Hillary uses racism and right wing attack thugs to defeat Obama
No surprise here. Hillary is a traitor to the dem party already for her many endorsements of her good buddy McCain over Obama for president.
I despise this woman and her despicable lack of morals.
Hillary Clinton will never set foot in the White House as president. If she steals the nomination somehow the dem party will again snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
And we will all have to go through this garbage again in 2012.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5168167
Karma13612
(4,555 posts)then I hope hope hope that Elizabeth Warren primaries her ass in 2020.
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)The Blue Traveller
(60 posts)I think Bernie would say he is the only one.
-none
(1,884 posts)I would say Bernie is the only Liberal running.
(I'm over 70, so I have a long memory of history)
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)Thanks in advance.
LoveIsNow
(356 posts)I don't care what he calls himself. Football is about teams; politics is about positions.
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Anyone who promises as much as he does without having the benefit of a team is either naïve, crazy or disingenuous.
kath
(10,565 posts)Thank you for that.
One sentence description of the vast majority of this thread: "Teh Stoopid, it burns!"
Big time.
postatomic
(1,771 posts)While he's on record as saying he won't run as an Independent...... well, call me skeptical.
brooklynite
(94,803 posts)...and the tweaks against Clinton are just as juvenile.
PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)Without this one to use as the template.
You get what you give.
enid602
(8,659 posts)Yes, simplistic, formulaic, predictable and endless posts trying to get the dim-witted to vote for your candidate are getting a bit stale. I've read way more than a few too many of them on DU as of late. Glad we've established that.
moobu2
(4,822 posts)He said he was only running as a Democrat because it was his only chance to win. Plus he has a long history of hating the Democratic Party.
artislife
(9,497 posts)SMH
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)why should he be trusted?
Hekate
(90,885 posts)enid602
(8,659 posts)Convenience for him.
Juicy_Bellows
(2,427 posts)Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)Yep.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)(For obvious reasons.)
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Chan790
(20,176 posts)Sanders and the movement he represents on the left is larger than the label.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)Will Hillary Goldman Sachs Clinton finally join the Republican Party after she loses her campaign AGAIN?
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)He's a Democrat solely out of necessity.
sid
Hepburn
(21,054 posts)1. He will not lose the nomination; and
2. Who gives a shit...it's his policies and not his label that counts.
Any other questions?
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)For some politicians, that's actually a positive.
MineralMan
(146,338 posts)Bernie's running as a Democrat in this primary election season. What he is registered as has nothing to do with it. In this election, he is a Democrat. That's all that matters, really. If he doesn't become the nominee, I'm sure he will still caucus with the Democrats in the Senate, as he has done for many year.
Todays_Illusion
(1,209 posts)I see this argument that he isn't really a Democratic candidate as empty anti-Sanders propaganda.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)And, since nothing Bernie has done has ever hurt the Democratic Party, you have no reason to treat him with suspicion and hostility. What matters is that he keeps caucusing with us in the Senate(as he will if not nominated) and that he doesn't run as an independent in the fall(which we all know he won't, given that the man isn't a self-destructive idiot).
enid602
(8,659 posts)Just basing it on the empirical data available. I, too like to think that I vote 100% progressive, but don't know if I'd be considered a good presidential candidate.
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)"Loyalty test" arguments are right-wing and toxic. They take us back to the McCarthy/HUAC era, and people on the progressive side of the argument have nothing ever to gain from embracing any part of the mindset of that era.
Autumn
(45,120 posts)and after Bernie, win or lose I'm going back to unaffiliated.
Hiraeth
(4,805 posts)If he doesn't, people might think he's a carpetbagger.