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Will Bernie remain a registered Democrat . . . (Original Post) enid602 Nov 2015 OP
We'll never know. immoderate Nov 2015 #1
+1000 bobbobbins01 Nov 2015 #7
Perfect! nt artislife Nov 2015 #45
good one!!!! +10 to the 1000th power :-) eom Karma13612 Nov 2015 #65
Will he stay in the Senate....? MADem Nov 2015 #2
I doubt trump would appoint him. Warren Stupidity Nov 2015 #4
Trump is on the cusp of imploding. At this point, many of the 'Republican likely voters' saying MADem Nov 2015 #6
trump enid602 Nov 2015 #15
Yes--I think he WANTS to get out of this, and he's trying to offend so he can. MADem Nov 2015 #23
Never thought of that. And since it's very obvious Karma13612 Nov 2015 #66
He didn't build it. The party did. He started to feed it. LuvLoogie Nov 2015 #78
I heard he dropped 12 points after doing that "insult the disabled guy" schtick. MADem Nov 2015 #79
Oh, that would end his campaign for sure!!! eom Karma13612 Nov 2015 #91
Senate? reallygosh Nov 2015 #55
Will Clinton catch a case of Joementum when she loses the nomination? Scootaloo Nov 2015 #3
When Hillary loses the nomination The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2015 #5
ˇOjalá que! n/t Chan790 Nov 2015 #62
Doubtful. He's a weathervane ... NurseJackie Nov 2015 #8
Don't run third party; don't run as a Democrat, either. Got it. merrily Nov 2015 #9
It's actualy... don't run at all. Autumn Nov 2015 #10
They should be genuflecting to Bernie for having run as a Democrat. merrily Nov 2015 #11
What the heck is up with my keyboard and spellcheck Autumn Nov 2015 #13
I wasn't going to say a thing. I just figured you had one glass too many to wash down merrily Nov 2015 #14
Not a bit. Hmmm rum, maybe my fingers are trying to tell me somthing. Autumn Nov 2015 #16
I make some downright great hermits with rum and molasses and rum soaked raisins. merrily Nov 2015 #19
If that's what suits him, or not ... NurseJackie Nov 2015 #20
Just as it's always 5 o'clock somewhere, it's always babbling brook time somewhere, I guess? merrily Nov 2015 #22
Ha! :-) NurseJackie Nov 2015 #25
Sorry, but that's Skidmore Nov 2015 #72
You're not sorry, but I don't care, so it doesn't matter. I thought my reply mild in comparison merrily Nov 2015 #80
true enid602 Nov 2015 #37
Aw... MrMickeysMom Nov 2015 #32
:-) NurseJackie Nov 2015 #35
Project much? AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #46
Your inability to detect NurseJackie Nov 2015 #69
RNJackie, he has been a democratic socialist for decades. Karma13612 Nov 2015 #67
Thank you for your reply. NurseJackie Nov 2015 #71
Probably not. Bleacher Creature Nov 2015 #12
barn enid602 Nov 2015 #18
LOL! As if Frank doesn't grandstand. BTW, it wasn't about bashing. It was about not owing anything merrily Nov 2015 #21
Barney Frank, who now makes his living on the board of a BIG BANK, now, right? Fawke Em Nov 2015 #52
WHo cares? He caucuses with the Dems. morningfog Nov 2015 #17
Can Bernie Sanders Win the Love of a Party He Scorns? BlueStateLib Nov 2015 #24
So now he 'scorns' the Democratic party? AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #47
Yes....he hates and scorns the Democratic party Sheepshank Nov 2015 #81
Evidence please AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #86
I think the Zenger defense applies. Chan790 Nov 2015 #63
bravo! +100 eom Karma13612 Nov 2015 #68
+1 The Blue Traveller Nov 2015 #93
Bernie has always held the democratic party workinclasszero Nov 2015 #26
And the compempt towards DWS, guess what she hasn't bent to the smears Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #27
bern enid602 Nov 2015 #31
DWS fellow board members say she is trying to throw the primaries for Hillary AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #49
One of Sanders super delegate endorsements is on the board, guess Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #56
And she will continue to lose. Fawke Em Nov 2015 #53
The Democratic Party leaders, yes - -none Nov 2015 #29
Oh right, my bad. workinclasszero Nov 2015 #36
IF she wins, then we go back to NOT CARING. Fawke Em Nov 2015 #54
You're one to be talking Art_from_Ark Nov 2015 #57
I'll say this, if Hillary winds up in the WH Karma13612 Nov 2015 #70
Were you lying when you called Clinton despicable? Or have you just evolved? DisgustipatedinCA Nov 2015 #83
Triangulation at work The Blue Traveller Nov 2015 #94
only one enid602 Nov 2015 #42
From what I remember of politics over the last 50 years or so, -none Nov 2015 #43
And of course you have many examples of it so show us AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #48
Add long as he maintains his same positions, LoveIsNow Nov 2015 #28
bern enid602 Nov 2015 #30
"Football is about teams; politics is about positions" kath Nov 2015 #33
He's already deployed his 'Senate Parachute' postatomic Nov 2015 #34
As a Clinton supporter, I find these tweaks against Sanders annoying... brooklynite Nov 2015 #38
Well, my post would never had been made PowerToThePeople Nov 2015 #40
OP enid602 Nov 2015 #77
I doubt it moobu2 Nov 2015 #39
Yeah, he hated it every time he voted with the party. artislife Nov 2015 #51
Which begs the question... Skidmore Nov 2015 #73
Never. This is strictly a marriage of convenience. Hekate Nov 2015 #41
convenience enid602 Nov 2015 #75
Probably not - hell, if he doesn't win I know I am back to Independent! nt. Juicy_Bellows Nov 2015 #44
Will Hillary lose the election in the general is she wins the nomination? Fawke Em Nov 2015 #50
Depends on what he will be campaigning for. Nt NCTraveler Nov 2015 #58
After this, he's likely going to retire. NurseJackie Nov 2015 #59
Completely and enthusiastically unrecommended. Enthusiast Nov 2015 #60
He should not. Chan790 Nov 2015 #61
Couldn't begin to guess. Sanders is going to win. 99Forever Nov 2015 #64
Not a chance in Hell... SidDithers Nov 2015 #74
We will never know because... Hepburn Nov 2015 #76
The contents will remain the same, regardless of the label. winter is coming Nov 2015 #82
There still is no party registration in Vermont. MineralMan Nov 2015 #84
Bernie has since being in Congress voted with the Democratic more than some of the Democratic, so Todays_Illusion Nov 2015 #85
Does it matter? Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2015 #87
You can't assume he'll lose the nomination. Ken Burch Nov 2015 #88
empirical enid602 Nov 2015 #89
I probably wouldn't ever run myself, but that isn't the point. Ken Burch Nov 2015 #90
I don't know, but I know the only reason I re-registered as a dem was to caucus for him. Autumn Nov 2015 #92
Will you care one way or the other and if so, why? Hiraeth Nov 2015 #95
IF. .. . enid602 Nov 2015 #96
and you care about what people might think about Bernie? really?! Hiraeth Nov 2015 #97

MADem

(135,425 posts)
6. Trump is on the cusp of imploding. At this point, many of the 'Republican likely voters' saying
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 09:15 PM
Nov 2015

they'll vote for Trump are chain-yanking. It's their way of saying "All y'all suck!"

Trump will not be the GOP nominee. The Republicans have "super delegates" too. And they have an RNC with oodles of cash. AND donors who will "fall in line" to crush The Donald, even if they have to "accommodate" a mutually agreed upon compromise by backing a second choice in exchange for a bit of quid pro quo.

But you never move too soon. Don't spend money a second before it's needed.

enid602

(8,659 posts)
15. trump
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 09:48 PM
Nov 2015

Dont you get the impression that he's implodimg on purpose? Making fun of the reporter was a bit much.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
23. Yes--I think he WANTS to get out of this, and he's trying to offend so he can.
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 10:01 PM
Nov 2015

He finds himself in this Chauncy Gardener type situation, though, where every stupidity is regarded as quirky genius.

I do think the reporter thing, plus the Muslims Celebrate in NJ thing, plus the "I could see the bodies falling from my house" thing (shades of Palin) will eventually catch up with him and trip him.

If not, he'll be standing up there, calling his audience assholes and idiots, while they continue to cheer! Idiocracy!!!

Karma13612

(4,555 posts)
66. Never thought of that. And since it's very obvious
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 10:34 AM
Nov 2015

he has a huge ego, there is no way he will simply announce that he is leaving the race. That would be showing defeat and completely out of character for this blowhard.

He needs to get his poll numbers so low that it gets him off the debate stage. But, the more awful he talks and behaves, it seems the right wing teahadis love him.

He built this monster and now he has to figure out how to neutralize it.


LuvLoogie

(7,058 posts)
78. He didn't build it. The party did. He started to feed it.
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 11:58 AM
Nov 2015

And like a stray animal. It is now his pet.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
79. I heard he dropped 12 points after doing that "insult the disabled guy" schtick.
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 12:20 PM
Nov 2015

Maybe he needs to go after someone's granny next!!

Autumn

(45,120 posts)
13. What the heck is up with my keyboard and spellcheck
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 09:35 PM
Nov 2015
It passed since actual and rum are very real words.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
14. I wasn't going to say a thing. I just figured you had one glass too many to wash down
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 09:40 PM
Nov 2015

those leftovers. Totally understandable!

merrily

(45,251 posts)
19. I make some downright great hermits with rum and molasses and rum soaked raisins.
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 09:54 PM
Nov 2015

Hey, people need fruit!

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
20. If that's what suits him, or not ...
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 09:55 PM
Nov 2015

... who knows what his future holds after losing the primary? But it will be interesting to watch. I'm looking forward to seeing it unfold. I'm sure he'll do what's best.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
80. You're not sorry, but I don't care, so it doesn't matter. I thought my reply mild in comparison
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 12:49 PM
Nov 2015

to the content of Reply 20 and the rest of the exchanges. You obviously have a different opinion about all that than I did and, for some reason, you obviously found it necessary or desirable to share your opinion with me, even though you were not involved in the original exchanges and the two people who were involved had tapped out Friday. I hope no Bernie supporter bothers NurseJackie any further with this in the mistaken belief that it would somehow help me or help anything, really. None of that matters, either. Have a great day.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
46. Project much?
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 02:47 AM
Nov 2015

Yesterday you said you would vote for Donald Trump if Sanders gets the nomination. Are we supposed to take anything you say serious after that?

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
69. Your inability to detect
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 11:14 AM
Nov 2015

... parody and sarcasm without the sarcasm emoji to spell it out for you is your own problem not mine. Whether you believe me or "get me" or take me seriously or not is of no concern to me.

Karma13612

(4,555 posts)
67. RNJackie, he has been a democratic socialist for decades.
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 10:50 AM
Nov 2015

He is running on the democratic ticket because he knows that running third party would get him no-where in a 2 party system that this country currently runs on.

He is running because he believes he can win. He doesn't want to split the votes and doesn't want to be a Ralph Nader.
He is a member of Democratic Caucus of the US Senate. One of two independents.

He is trying to raise awareness of all the issues this country is facing, and providing his solutions to them.

He is being honest and passionate and trying to engage as many people as possible to be part of his revolution. A revolution who's purpose is to give the middle class back their country. The middle class that has been losing for 40+ years at the hands of republicans, Blue Dog Dems, and Third-way triagulating democrats like Hillary Clinton.

I respect that you are supporting Hillary.
I think Hillary is bad for the middle Class.

Bleacher Creature

(11,258 posts)
12. Probably not.
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 09:31 PM
Nov 2015

The thing is, he was always a Democrat on the issues. The whole "independent" and "Democratic Socialist" thing was all about grandstanding, and allowed him to bash the Democratic Party as part of his " a pox on both your houses" schtick.

Barney Frank, who is as liberal as anyone - including Sanders - has been calling him out on this crap for a long time. Seriously, it's all grandstanding.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
21. LOL! As if Frank doesn't grandstand. BTW, it wasn't about bashing. It was about not owing anything
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 09:56 PM
Nov 2015

the donors of any Party.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
52. Barney Frank, who now makes his living on the board of a BIG BANK, now, right?
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 02:57 AM
Nov 2015

Frank seems to be the one who was grandstanding.

BlueStateLib

(937 posts)
24. Can Bernie Sanders Win the Love of a Party He Scorns?
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 10:06 PM
Nov 2015

You don’t change the system from within the Democratic Party.”

“My own feeling is that the Democratic Party is ideologically bankrupt.”

“We have to ask ourselves, ‘Why should we work within the Democratic Party if we don’t agree with anything the Democratic Party says?’”


Read more: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/08/bernie-sanders-2016-democrats-121181#ixzz3q2Yjz9Og

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
47. So now he 'scorns' the Democratic party?
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 02:49 AM
Nov 2015

lol Hillary supporters just keep getting more and more vicious with their made up nonsense.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
81. Yes....he hates and scorns the Democratic party
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 01:10 PM
Nov 2015

Look up his own words, very easy to find. In fact there was one link supplied one post up.

He runs on the Democratic ticket only for political expediency and cheap votes. And there are plenty around to give him just that.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
86. Evidence please
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 01:31 PM
Nov 2015

Thanks in advance.

It's the Third Way® that scorns the Democratic party and is ruining it with right wing (Republican) war and economic policies.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
63. I think the Zenger defense applies.
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 09:03 AM
Nov 2015

Provable statements of fact are immune from allegations of slander. The Democratic Party is ideologically-bankrupt and will remain so until it purges the Clintonites and DLC from its membership.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
26. Bernie has always held the democratic party
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 10:18 PM
Nov 2015

in contempt.

I assume he will go back to his ivory tower and look down his nose at democrats like usual.

enid602

(8,659 posts)
31. bern
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 11:01 PM
Nov 2015

Anyone who does not bend to his (or should I say his supporters') demands, is corrupt, beholden or incompetent.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
49. DWS fellow board members say she is trying to throw the primaries for Hillary
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 02:51 AM
Nov 2015

DWS is contemptible, at best. Corrupt at worst.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
56. One of Sanders super delegate endorsements is on the board, guess
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 06:20 AM
Nov 2015

If you are going to be intolerant to the board then are you leaving this member out?

Is the reward for Sanders running on the DNC continuous conspiracy theories? If DWS was as contemptuous towards Sanders as some of the demeaning post theme could be something to complain. There was a complaint about not enough debates and this was throwing the primary to Hillary when the debates has proven not to be Sanders finest moments. The fact of Hillary's polling numbers staying high is because of opinions she is the most qualified. DWS is not responsible for the high polling numbers.

-none

(1,884 posts)
29. The Democratic Party leaders, yes -
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 10:33 PM
Nov 2015

The rank and file, no.

Bernie Sanders is what this country needs. Look around DU and tell me which are real Liberal, Democrats and which are not.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
36. Oh right, my bad.
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 11:28 PM
Nov 2015

If you support Hillary like the majority of democrats do, that means you aren't a real liberal democrat, is that what BS fans are saying? LOLZ

After Hillary Clinton wins the nomination I guess the libertarians backing him will have to snipe at her from the sidelines with the republicans

February 1st, can't wait!

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
54. IF she wins, then we go back to NOT CARING.
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 03:01 AM
Nov 2015

She WILL NOT win the general.

She's damaged goods.

November 2016 - you better hope you can't wait!

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
57. You're one to be talking
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 07:32 AM
Nov 2015

Knock it off already

workinclasszero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 08:25 AM
Response to Original message
76. So Hillary uses racism and right wing attack thugs to defeat Obama
No surprise here. Hillary is a traitor to the dem party already for her many endorsements of her good buddy McCain over Obama for president.

I despise this woman and her despicable lack of morals.

Hillary Clinton will never set foot in the White House as president. If she steals the nomination somehow the dem party will again snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

And we will all have to go through this garbage again in 2012.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5168167

Karma13612

(4,555 posts)
70. I'll say this, if Hillary winds up in the WH
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 11:15 AM
Nov 2015

then I hope hope hope that Elizabeth Warren primaries her ass in 2020.

-none

(1,884 posts)
43. From what I remember of politics over the last 50 years or so,
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 02:05 AM
Nov 2015

I would say Bernie is the only Liberal running.

(I'm over 70, so I have a long memory of history)

LoveIsNow

(356 posts)
28. Add long as he maintains his same positions,
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 10:24 PM
Nov 2015

I don't care what he calls himself. Football is about teams; politics is about positions.

enid602

(8,659 posts)
30. bern
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 10:59 PM
Nov 2015

Last edited Fri Nov 27, 2015, 11:32 PM - Edit history (1)

Anyone who promises as much as he does without having the benefit of a team is either naïve, crazy or disingenuous.

kath

(10,565 posts)
33. "Football is about teams; politics is about positions"
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 11:07 PM
Nov 2015

Thank you for that.

One sentence description of the vast majority of this thread: "Teh Stoopid, it burns!"
Big time.

postatomic

(1,771 posts)
34. He's already deployed his 'Senate Parachute'
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 11:07 PM
Nov 2015

While he's on record as saying he won't run as an Independent...... well, call me skeptical.

 

PowerToThePeople

(9,610 posts)
40. Well, my post would never had been made
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 01:17 AM
Nov 2015

Without this one to use as the template.

You get what you give.

enid602

(8,659 posts)
77. OP
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 11:46 AM
Nov 2015

Yes, simplistic, formulaic, predictable and endless posts trying to get the dim-witted to vote for your candidate are getting a bit stale. I've read way more than a few too many of them on DU as of late. Glad we've established that.

moobu2

(4,822 posts)
39. I doubt it
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 01:10 AM
Nov 2015

He said he was only running as a Democrat because it was his only chance to win. Plus he has a long history of hating the Democratic Party.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
64. Couldn't begin to guess. Sanders is going to win.
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 09:56 AM
Nov 2015

Will Hillary Goldman Sachs Clinton finally join the Republican Party after she loses her campaign AGAIN?

Hepburn

(21,054 posts)
76. We will never know because...
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 11:40 AM
Nov 2015

1. He will not lose the nomination; and
2. Who gives a shit...it's his policies and not his label that counts.

Any other questions?

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
82. The contents will remain the same, regardless of the label.
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 01:12 PM
Nov 2015

For some politicians, that's actually a positive.

MineralMan

(146,338 posts)
84. There still is no party registration in Vermont.
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 01:20 PM
Nov 2015

Bernie's running as a Democrat in this primary election season. What he is registered as has nothing to do with it. In this election, he is a Democrat. That's all that matters, really. If he doesn't become the nominee, I'm sure he will still caucus with the Democrats in the Senate, as he has done for many year.

Todays_Illusion

(1,209 posts)
85. Bernie has since being in Congress voted with the Democratic more than some of the Democratic, so
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 01:25 PM
Nov 2015

I see this argument that he isn't really a Democratic candidate as empty anti-Sanders propaganda.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
88. You can't assume he'll lose the nomination.
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 02:34 PM
Nov 2015

And, since nothing Bernie has done has ever hurt the Democratic Party, you have no reason to treat him with suspicion and hostility. What matters is that he keeps caucusing with us in the Senate(as he will if not nominated) and that he doesn't run as an independent in the fall(which we all know he won't, given that the man isn't a self-destructive idiot).

enid602

(8,659 posts)
89. empirical
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 02:50 PM
Nov 2015

Just basing it on the empirical data available. I, too like to think that I vote 100% progressive, but don't know if I'd be considered a good presidential candidate.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
90. I probably wouldn't ever run myself, but that isn't the point.
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 03:07 PM
Nov 2015

"Loyalty test" arguments are right-wing and toxic. They take us back to the McCarthy/HUAC era, and people on the progressive side of the argument have nothing ever to gain from embracing any part of the mindset of that era.

Autumn

(45,120 posts)
92. I don't know, but I know the only reason I re-registered as a dem was to caucus for him.
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 01:37 PM
Nov 2015

and after Bernie, win or lose I'm going back to unaffiliated.

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