2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumI felt a personal sense of betrayal by Hillary's IWR vote.
And now you want me to support her? The very thought makes me literally sick.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)No offense.
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(12,769 posts)Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Nobody is forcing you to vote for Hillary.
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(12,769 posts)You know, like supporting the truth.
orpupilofnature57
(15,472 posts)have a glib reason or start talking about changing one's mind, instead of flip flopping .
brooklynite
(94,602 posts)...there will be about 20 M Democrats who will.
I trust you didn't vote for John Kerry in 2004 or Obama/Biden in 2008 and 2012?
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(12,769 posts)JTFrog
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(12,769 posts)JTFrog
(14,274 posts)I'm only bringing this up because you asked if that poster was confused.
However, I have seen these same declarations from others who had no problem voting for Kerry.
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(12,769 posts)And Kerry was thrust upon us. I didn't support him in the primary. I did vote for him without enthusiasm in the GE but only because the other choice was totally disgusting.
I don't really care to relive those days with another choice between sickening and reprehensible.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)Have at it.
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(12,769 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)But I was in Alaska at the time and it was wrapped up by the time we had our primary. And given the choice between an enabler and the architect in 2004, I held my nose for the enabler.
Do you or do you NOT think the Iraq war was a bad thing, Brooklynite?
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)Vote for who ever you want to.
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(12,769 posts)Lilith Rising
(184 posts)who you support or vote for just as it's none of your business who I support or vote for.
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(12,769 posts)Lilith Rising
(184 posts)seem to think that anyone really cares if you support Hillary or not - so much so that you felt a need to create an OP about it.
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(12,769 posts)Lilith Rising
(184 posts)I suppose then that a greater number of people will see that the general consensus was that you're free to support whomever you please.
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(12,769 posts)The Blue Traveller
(60 posts)oasis
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(12,769 posts)oasis
(49,390 posts)involvement than your average Democrat.
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(12,769 posts)oasis
(49,390 posts)term, it was entirely justified because she committed no crimes nor cast any controversial votes.
Hill's IWR vote was disappointing to me but understandable given the deception of the Bush administration and false reporting by the mainstream media.
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)Take a bow
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(12,769 posts)Bryce Butler
(338 posts)On Sun Nov 29, 2015, 06:26 PM an alert was sent on the following post:
I felt a personal sense of betrayal by Hillary's IWR vote.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251857731
REASON FOR ALERT
This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.
ALERTER'S COMMENTS
Alerting to Admins. As Skinner said here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/12598967 "Unfortunately, there are some people here who who say they won't support the nominee and actually won't. As we explained above, our feeling is that we want to give people the benefit of the doubt. But if you convince us that you actually mean it and you really aren't going to support the nominee, then we're going to treat you like you actually mean it. " Posting that the thought of supporting Hillary "makes me literally sick" is pretty convincing.
You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Sun Nov 29, 2015, 06:29 PM, and the Jury voted 0-7 to LEAVE IT.
Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
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Explanation: Posting that "THE THOUGHT of supporting Hillary makes me literally sick" does NOT equate to "I'm really not going to support" her.
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Explanation: not worth a hide
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(12,769 posts)Proserpina
(2,352 posts)This is no way to run a website! Vigilantes shooting up the people who are engaging in discussion, posting reputable news or pundit opinions....and to no avail. It sure doesn't do their candidate a bit of good, and reflects badly upon her based on the kind of Tea-Party-like behaviors her candidacy engenders.
Martin Eden
(12,871 posts)Kerry gained the national spotlight when he led the Vietnam Veterans Against the War. In 2002 our country desperately needed his leadership along with Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, and others to keep us out of another insane war, but they calculated the politics of the moment instead of the long term costs in blood and treasure and what would pour out of the Pandora's box Cheney and his Chimp were so eager to pry open.
They all lost my vote that day. Never in a Democratic primary will I ever support any of them.
And more than 12 years later, Hillary Clinton's judgment has not improved. She's still a hawk, still in favor of intervening to topple Middle East regimes (Libya & Syria) and opening the door to more chaos and bloodshed and terrorism on steroids.
My opposition to Hillary Clinton in this primary isn't just to punish her for the inexcusable IWR vote; it's because I don't trust her to keep us out of the next insane war.
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(12,769 posts)bigwillq
(72,790 posts)Don't support her.
Don't vote for her.
End of discussion.
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(12,769 posts)bigwillq
(72,790 posts)JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)... would let the republicans take control of the White House whether through their direct action or through their inaction.
Wow, I feel so much better now that I got that off my chest!!
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(12,769 posts)JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)... she will be our candidate.
And I guess you'll get to go through the various stages of grief right here on DU.
Or not.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)defeating the Republicons. Voting for HRC in the primary will be putting a Republicon in the WH.
I felt a personal sense of betrayal by the Democratic Elites of our Party who in 2000 let a Republicon take control of the WH. They had the audacity to run another DLC Democrat when the people were tired of the Clinton/Gore "years".
So what does the Democratic Party Elites* want to do in 2016? The same damn thing they did in 2000, but they won't have Ralph Nader to use as a scapegoat for their terrible decision.
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(12,769 posts)ucrdem
(15,512 posts)Write a letter and explain that you can't in conscience vote for her in the general until you hear her promise not to bomb Iran or Syria without Congressional approval. Make it reasonable and respectful and send it.
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(12,769 posts)I can't promise I did it respectfully , however.
Agony
(2,605 posts)I held held my nose and voted once more
never again.
done with that shit. it's personal for me too.