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monmouth

(21,078 posts) Wed Sep 5, 2012, 11:18 AM Sep 2012

Arianna On 'Morning Joe'

Arianna stopped by the "Morning Joe" studio Wednesday morning to discuss the Democratic National Convention and America's jobs crisis.

Huffington was effusive about the DNC's opening night. "It made the Republicans in Tampa look like amateur hour," she said. "It's just the energy, the engagement and Michelle Obama's speech. I've looked through everything conservatives have written [on Obama's speech] and I can't find a negative word, which is pretty stunning."

She added: "Of course, now the question is going to be: 'How do they go from the personal to the political?'" Citing the first lady's reference to a wounded Afghanistan veteran, she said "We haven't really explained why we are still in Afghanistan. The public is against it, so why do we stay in the emotional generalities?"

Arianna aslo discussed a job-creation forum that she is hosting in Charlotte later on Wednesday. "Jobs is the big issue," she said. "But the reality is that we don't believe that Washington is going to do anything about jobs in the near future. So what we are doing today is bringing people together to discuss what can the private sector do, individuals, foundations, not-for-profits do?... And the spirit of America that Michelle Obama so beautifully evoked yesterday is something that we can actually apply to job creation. We are bringing over 100 start-up entrepreneurs to demonstrate that even during this time jobs are created, businesses are started. We just need to help them scale."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-tv/arianna-morning-joe-democratic-convention_b_1857548.html

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Arianna On 'Morning Joe' (Original Post) monmouth Sep 2012 OP

maybe arianna needs to check in with what's going on in Afghanistan CitizenPatriot Sep 2012 #1

Umm Ariana.. we're in Afghanistan because we're in the process of pulling out.. progressivebydesign Sep 2012 #2

CitizenPatriot

(3,783 posts)

1. maybe arianna needs to check in with what's going on in Afghanistan

Reply to monmouth (Original post)

Wed Sep 5, 2012, 12:56 PM

Sep 2012

(please note: rant aimed at media's oversimplification of war, not at OP)

We are in advise and assist mode as we prepare for the drawdown. Otherwise known as not invading, destroying, and then leaving the region in tatters as we hightail it home because we are sick of war.

It's called being responsible, or as responsible as you can be post WMD lies/invasions.

The damage has been done. It has our names on it. Power is decentralized and new terror cells have grown in its place. We did that.

I can't express how much I was against these wars or how heartbroken I am over what they are doing to our troops and to civilians -- but I refuse to be complicit in the idea that if we ignore what we did and just come home now it's all over.

The end goal is to turn full responsibility for security over to Afghani national security forces by the end of 2014. Even our troops who are there purely for Advise & Assist can be drawn into conflicts under certain conditions, and will patrol under certain conditions. It's hardly black and white.

War is Hell, and part of Hell is that you can't leave when you want to. This is why we should not start wars until and unless all other avenues have been attempted.

But then, liberals knew that before Bush invaded Iraq. What we need to NOT repeat is the idea that just because we hate war, we should leave irresponsibly.

Arianna knows this, but she also knows that her base doesn't want to hear the complicated truth and would rather get high on the idea that since we hate war, we should just take our war toys and come home, to hell with the Afghanis and the damage we created. That is so irresponsible it makes my blood boil. We have done enough damage. Let us conduct our exit with a modicum of responsibility.

progressivebydesign

(19,458 posts)

2. Umm Ariana.. we're in Afghanistan because we're in the process of pulling out..

Reply to monmouth (Original post)

Wed Sep 5, 2012, 01:01 PM

Sep 2012

and brining home troops.. you know, like the 33k we're bringing home this month??? We didn't start that fucking war.

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