And than means she doesn't care about Brown or Black people.

being said about Hillary on this board. Lots of it will just be lifted by the gop next year and used by them.

I call out Bernie supporters who are acting like twits, I do not see any of your side deal with your twits. It's a few, they are mean, they smear not only the candidate but other DUers with nasty and dishonest crap.

Both sides have them, any attempt to call them out seems to result in a hide.

Not calling you any names by any stretch of the imagination... For the most part I am saying I agree with you.

someone like Bernie. His baggage is so light he carries it in his wallet, while Clinton has to have 4 handlers just to drag around a portion of hers.

The issue is that this "forum" was never a "forum."

This event is a big part of the primary season in Iowa. It is a cherished tradition. It's has always been referred to as the Black and Brown DEBATE among Iowans--and the format has always been all candidates on stage DEBATING.

I'm an Iowans--and don't think that Iowans won't notice the change; or what's going on.

Once again, Hillary has to be protected. She's protecting her soft support. The last two polls show Sanders within double digits in Iowa.

Hillary needs to engage with her opponents, not insist (through DWS's inane, childish rules) that these candidates must be separated. So ridiculous!

Changing the entire format--for the first time in the debate's history-to placate a candidate, is wrong.

It's always been a debate with all candidates on stage. It should remain that.

This Iowan is not pleased about this, and many others won't be either.

I dug into this yesterday - this black brown forum because I saw the nastiness about SOS Clinton. I do not believe that woman has one bigoted or disregarding of black/Hispanic folks bone in her body. That's not the cloth she is cut from.

If Iowa Democratic Party members have engaged at the grassroots level since 1984 with all candidates on stage - then it is best for National interests to be subjugated to State/Local Interests.

My understanding - for 30 years this FORUM - this GOTV effort for minorities has been done one way and one way only. It's not a debate - its a forum for voter outreach. Why is the DNC trying to change the way Iowans - who know better the people of Iowa - do things?

I live in a large diverse state in a town of 4500. That like Guvnah Doughboy Bully trying to tell those of us who live so close together we can't help but to communicate and come from different places in life but our proximity to each other helps us to see each other as humans . . . How to run our police community outreach meetings.

Note: To understand where I come from on this that last paragraph says it all. I have an intense distrust of that large oppressive thing in Trenton and as a result of Christies arrogance and failure will probably spend therest of my life believing local is better than central.

Local (Iowa Democratic Party) is better than Central (National) at GOTV efforts in their "home".

If they did it one way for 30 years that was effective - then they should continue on.

If the party leadership believes it is NOT effective - then they should come right out and say it and the whole thing should be scrapped.

However - I don't believe that to be the case.

And if O'Malley participates - he should get to go last in the one on one since he was the last to get on board. If Clinton was first or Sanders was first to sign up - that's who goes first. Last up gets to throw the most elbows.

I personally don't care how it's held but the decision should be theirs. There has to be a better way than the exclusitivity clause to stop a twenty some debate primary season.

But as an O'Malley supporter - I agree with him.

As someone who believes in this type of platform as part of the election process - the Party Leadership is being beyond stupid.

And I'm not talking about President Obama.

because forums get less press attention and less viewership and it insulates Hillary from having to defend her BS against Bernie and O'Malley.

O'Malley shouldn't go last. He should go first. The media stops paying attention once Hillary speaks and he won't get any coverage if he goes after her.

As an Iowan, and someone who organized Black and Brown house parties for a few caucus cycles--I can tell you that you do not have correct information.

The Black and Brown forum has always been a debate. Always.


The forum format, since 1976, has always been all primary candidates sharing the stage and debating. This event is always broadcast live worldwide and on IPTV and it is heavily followed and watched by Iowans. There are many watch parties organized around this forum. It is considered one of the better debates because the rules are not as rigid as most of the other debates. The rules are relaxed. The debate is often rough-and-tumble.

This "one person at a time" marlakey is unprecedented. Never happened before! And it's jarring. And don't think that Iowans are a bunch of tumbleweeds who don't know what is happening here. Someone is avoiding vigorous discussion, for sure! Iowans will notice and the changed format will will tick off many. This is a big change for us.

The only time one person was on the stage was when Tom Harkin attended the event alone, because he was the sole Democratic primary campaigner in Iowa--due to the fact that all other candidates knew that he would take his home state.

Now, the format is changed and it appears as though Hillary is being protected. If she is blamed for that by Iowans--oh boy. This is not going to go over lightly. We take our "first-in-the-nation status" very seriously and we view the Black and Brown forum as an opportunity to vet these candidates.

If the Black and Brown forum is watered down and turned into some kind of lame, meaningless, hollow joke with one person at a time--reading a speech from a teleprompter--that will be duly noted by Iowans.

Where did you get that I didn't understand all three should up there at the same time?

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Where did I call Iowans a bunch of "tumble weeds who don't know what is going on?"

The way to hammer this home to the leadership? It's a "forum" that has been conducted in one way for many years. It needs to be conducted the way it always has.


And in NJ - we aren't a bunch of bullies who eat crispy kremes. We always wait at our turn until the very end of the primary season. I could take the approach - we demand a debate in May 2016 - but I won't.

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2015/08/10/3689728/after-repeated-protests-bernie-sanders-releases-racial-justice-platform/

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251868266

Bernie will pivot, stubble, and revert to his stump speech. It's what he does when dealing with unfamiliar topics ... as we've seen.

I didn't watch Sanders part of the Maddow special. On replay I tried - but I just can't relate to him.

O'Malley and Clinton I can relate to so perhaps I'm just more receptive to their content?

... and a more realistic approach and expectations. He's a good guy overall, but he belongs in the Senate where he's comfortable and can do the most good in his "element".

Id like to see him pick up being a crusader for turning green into gold. That's the future - its everything.

I'm a hard liner on the environment - and he's the hard liner of the three. IF he doesn't pull a Bill Clinton - work for commerce that's green. Go work for Elon Musk! I could see him as a CEO of an innovation company. That's not in the make up of Clinton or Sanders - that kind of vision.

Let Sanders sit in the Senate , Clinton in the White House - O'Malley changing the world behind the back of the Federal Government.

My racial justice as a black woman is focused on -

Health issues
Infant mortality, pre natal care, access to fair treatment by physicians, stopping forced sterilization
Equal opportunity in housing
Safe communities
Trade Certification - For young black folks prior to graduation that got the shaft by America and got to the 6th grade reading at the 3rd grade level. We cheated them - and they aren't prepared for Harvard. There's gold for HVAC techs and Solar Shingle installers in them thar hills - and since this election the focus is on free college - they will be able to stick it to those collegians in 20 years when their 1 hour service fee is 1K. (My husband has this certification and used to also own an HVAC company. Don't get me started on what he pays Iron/Metal workers in their 20's (almost all minorities and women) because the skill is a dying one).

You mean people in GDP lied about that?

This is at odds with a prior thread.

But that was pretty blatantly misleading...!

Former Mary­land Gov. Mar­tin O’Mal­ley (D) will take part in the Iowa Brown and Black Pres­id­en­tial For­um on Jan. 11 in Des Moines, IA. The for­um is the “old­est con­tinu­ous minor­ity for­um for pres­id­en­tial can­did­ates in Amer­ica.”

His cam­paign also an­nounced that he will spend Sunday and Monday in Iowa after Sat­urday night’s de­bate. He’ll ap­pear at events in Des Moines, Ames, Ce­dar Falls, Oel­wein, Waverly, New Hamp­ton, Dec­orah, Waukon, and Elkader. (Des Moines Re­gister)

http://www.nationaljournal.com/s/92445/omalley-participate-iowa-brown-black-presidential-forum