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think

(11,641 posts)
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 01:36 PM Dec 2015

Bernie Sanders Just Took the Boldest Stance of Any Candidate on the Laquan McDonald Case

Bernie Sanders Just Took the Boldest Stance of Any Candidate on the Laquan McDonald Case

By Luke Brinker December 04, 2015

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) suggested on Friday that Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel may need to resign amid the raging controversy over how city officials handled the release of videotape showing the police killing of Laquan McDonald, a 17-year-old African-American shot 16 times by white police officer Jason Van Dyke.

Though Van Dyke killed McDonald in October 2014, the video of their encounter wasn't made public until last month, after a Cook County judge ordered its release. Emanuel's critics allege that he squashed release of the video to prevent a politically calamitous flare-up ahead of his campaign for a second term as mayor. He ultimately prevailed in his re-election bid after winning an April runoff election.

In a statement Friday, Sanders joined fellow Democratic presidential candidates Hillary Clinton and Martin O'Malley in urging a federal inquiry into the Chicago Police Department's practices. But Sanders went a step further by calling for "any official who helped suppress the videotape of Laquan McDonald's murder [to] be held accountable."

While Sanders didn't mention Emanuel by name, he added, "[A]ny elected official with knowledge that the tape was being suppressed or improperly withheld should resign. No one should be shielded by power or position."..

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http://mic.com/articles/129773/bernie-sanders-just-took-the-boldest-stance-of-any-candidate-on-the-laquan-mc-donald-case#.7puDjbxp3
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When We Stand Together - No Citizen Need Settle For The Lesser Of Two Corporate Evils - Go Bernie Go cantbeserious Dec 2015 #1
Naming names is "bold" in my book. "Suggesting" is a timid approach. nt oasis Dec 2015 #2
Not if you don't know all the facts. zalinda Dec 2015 #3
"Bold or not bold?" That is the question. oasis Dec 2015 #5
Dec 2: Hillary Clinton calls for federal inquiry of Chicago police tactics I missed this-from Dec 2. riversedge Dec 2015 #11
See post # 11--> Clinton is asking for a Federal inquiry into this shooting. riversedge Dec 2015 #12
Hillary makes an early move on this issue. Good. oasis Dec 2015 #19
His suggestions are just more hot air. I would have been more impressed had he stayed in Congress BlueCaliDem Dec 2015 #4
He'll never impress you zalinda Dec 2015 #8
Actually, he has - up until he decided not to vote against the Republican bill. BlueCaliDem Dec 2015 #13
Oh just be hoinest. He's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't Armstead Dec 2015 #14
I AM being honest. I have nothing against Sanders, and it irks me that his supporters think BlueCaliDem Dec 2015 #15
I can absolutely guarantee.... Armstead Dec 2015 #16
You can't deny that his choice not to vote is bad optics for Democratic votes. It's bad optics BlueCaliDem Dec 2015 #20
forgive me Enrique Dec 2015 #6
Kickin' Faux pas Dec 2015 #7
Glad he didn't take any cheap shots Babel_17 Dec 2015 #9
In the meantime, Hillary boldly... 99Forever Dec 2015 #10
Hot air! leftofcool Dec 2015 #17
Hillary stands by Rahm and not the azmom Dec 2015 #18
Dec 2: Hillary Clinton calls for federal inquiry of Chicago police tactics riversedge Dec 2015 #21

cantbeserious

(13,039 posts)
1. When We Stand Together - No Citizen Need Settle For The Lesser Of Two Corporate Evils - Go Bernie Go
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 01:37 PM
Dec 2015

eom

riversedge

(70,233 posts)
11. Dec 2: Hillary Clinton calls for federal inquiry of Chicago police tactics I missed this-from Dec 2.
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 02:37 PM
Dec 2015

Yes, indeed, an inquiry is in order...

X-Posed from:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/110728989

Dec 2: Hillary Clinton calls for federal inquiry of Chicago police tactics

I missed this-from Dec 2.
I see there are several threads in gd-p claiming Sanders has taken the boldest step yet among the candidates Suggesting that Rahm Emanuel resign. I think it should be investigated--at let the chips fall where they may. I also consider it very bold of Hillary--and the right thing to do---to call for a Federal investigation into this shooting.
But too early for resignation. He may decide to do just that as the protests go on (and they are going on) IMHO


Hillary Clinton calls for federal inquiry of Chicago police tactics

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-hillary-clinton-rahm-investigation-20151202-story.html

Hillary Clinton is calling for an independent federal inquiry into the Chicago Police Department's tactics following the shooting death of African-American teenager Laquan McDonald by a white police officer, her campaign told the Tribune on Wednesday.

Clinton's stance puts her at odds with Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel, who on Wednesday said he is against a full-blown federal probe.

Clinton, the front-runner for the Democratic presidential nomination, is "deeply troubled" by the shooting last year of McDonald and the "outstanding questions" it raises, her spokesman Brian Fallon said.

Emanuel has called for a task force to review the Police Department's practices, which is "an important step," Fallon said. "But given the gravity of this tragic situation, she supports a full review by the Department of Justice," he said of Clinton.

Emanuel, a powerful fellow Democrat, has come under harsh criticism for his administration's handling of the shooting and its ...............

His administration spent months trying to keep private a police video that shows McDonald being shot 16 times. The airing of the video last month set off a furor among protesters and community leaders, demanding answers about the shooting and the mystery surrounding it.

Emanuel opposes federal civil rights probe of Chicago police, admits 'mistakes'.................


But Clinton is siding with Illinois Attorney General Lisa Madigan, another influential Democrat, who has called for the Justice Department to look into the police use of deadly force. Madigan wrote a letter Tuesday asking U.S. Attorney General Loretta Lynch to launch a review because, as she put it, the "trust in the Chicago Police Department is broken."

Clinton does not believe Emanuel should step down as mayor, Fallon said...............





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White House responds to Laquan McDonald shooting, Hillary Clinton wants federal probe of CPD. Dec 3, 2015. (WGN-TV)
Christi ParsonsChicago Tribune

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
4. His suggestions are just more hot air. I would have been more impressed had he stayed in Congress
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 02:00 PM
Dec 2015

to vote against the Republican bill to repeal ObamaCare and defund Planned Parenthood.

Huge fail there.

Yes, I know that the bill would have passed even with his vote. But he's campaigning on health care reform and women's reproductive rights, and voting against the Republican bill would have boosted his credibility on those issues. He chose not to do the right thing, so it just appears as if he's all talk, no action.

For some people, that might be all they need, but for me, votes matter. In that he's failed me as an ObamaCare recipient and as a woman.

zalinda

(5,621 posts)
8. He'll never impress you
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 02:22 PM
Dec 2015

and that is sad. He has missed only 5% of the votes so far while running for President. Hillary missed 83% of her votes when she ran for President in 2008.

Z

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
13. Actually, he has - up until he decided not to vote against the Republican bill.
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 02:48 PM
Dec 2015

For all his talk of being a socialist, I've discovered that he's a true-blue Democrat. So your statement is wrong.

And it doesn't matter how many votes he's missed compared to Hillary Clinton. She doesn't need to prove herself. He does. And it matters because he's projected himself as a purer Democrat than Hillary Clinton, yet he couldn't make the effort to stick around and vote against the Republican bill that's meant to undermine the very issues he's campaigning on?

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
14. Oh just be hoinest. He's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 02:53 PM
Dec 2015

So if he'd stayed and voted would you have called him a showboating hypocrite for casting a token meaningless vote claiming to support Obamacare while he's campaigning for something different?

I'm sure some people wold have found reasons to be offended by whatever he did, simpkly because he is Bernie Sandersa ande has dared to challenge Clinton in the primary.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
15. I AM being honest. I have nothing against Sanders, and it irks me that his supporters think
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 03:12 PM
Dec 2015

I do just because I support Hillary Clinton. This really needs to stop.

So if he'd stayed and voted

He would have shown his integrity through that vote. ObamaCare isn't perfect, it's a stepping stone and open to improvement. Even President Obama said as much. But in the meantime, it has helped tens of millions more Americans gain health insurance and health care. Progress, not perfection. By the way, single-payer is viable via ObamaCare under 1332 "State Innovation Waiver". Every State can implement single-payer IF that State can show that their plan is better, can cover the same amount or more people, and it doesn't contribute to the Federal deficit. As you know, Vermont has applied for and received the Waiver, and ObamaCare will pay 80-85% of the cost of implementation.



 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
16. I can absolutely guarantee....
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 03:27 PM
Dec 2015

that if one more vote would have made a damn bit of difference, he would have stayed.

If you think he didn't take it seriously, and make sure that he could leave town with no ill effects, then you have no clue of who he is at his core.

He is committed to his goals to an extreme degree. And he is committed to doing whatever he can to protect and expand healthcare as a central tenant of his entire political life. That's who he is.

So perhaps you made a mistake based on incomplete knowledge.

But assuming that he just blew it off because he didn't care, is totally off the mark.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
20. You can't deny that his choice not to vote is bad optics for Democratic votes. It's bad optics
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 04:37 PM
Dec 2015

to pro-ObamaCare advocates. It's bad optics to Planned Parenthood activists and women who still have to fight for our reproductive rights and those of our daughters. This is undeniable, and you don't need to know the man's "true heart". You just need to see where he, as a Senator, votes, and it doesn't matter in the greater scheme of things if the bill passed with or without his vote. It's about optics. It tells people whose side you're actually on, and to be honest, it doesn't look good for him.

But assuming that he just blew it off because he didn't care, is totally off the mark.

I never assumed such a thing - but I do question his reasons. He voted against the AUMF Against Iraq even though it would have easily passed both chambers in Congress with or without his vote.

For a person who's pretty knowledgeable about Sanders' legislative past, this was a strange vote since he voted for the 1998 Iraq Liberation Act that was used to promote the AUMF Against Iraq four years later and what he voted against. But he said it was a principled vote. And he was correct in doing so then, as he is wrong in NOT voting against the sneaky Republican reconciliation bill now.

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
9. Glad he didn't take any cheap shots
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 02:31 PM
Dec 2015

Get the truth out, and let the chips fall where they may. I'm not a fan of Mayor Emanuel, but I don't want to see people running for our party's nomination casually smearing him when it involves such a deadly serious issue.

"Any elected official with knowledge that the tape was being suppressed or improperly withheld should resign. No one should be shielded by power or position." looks very direct to me, and I don't see it as smearing anyone.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
10. In the meantime, Hillary boldly...
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 02:32 PM
Dec 2015

... stands with Rahm. Yessir, that's the wonderful advocate for BLM we've all come to admire so much.

riversedge

(70,233 posts)
21. Dec 2: Hillary Clinton calls for federal inquiry of Chicago police tactics
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 05:19 PM
Dec 2015

I think it is smart for Hillary to call for a Federal probe.

X-Posed from:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/110728989

Dec 2: Hillary Clinton calls for federal inquiry of Chicago police tactics


I missed this-from Dec 2.
I see there are several threads in gd-p claiming Sanders has taken the boldest step yet among the candidates Suggesting that Rahm Emanuel resign. I think it should be investigated--and let the chips fall where they may. I also consider it very bold of Hillary--and the right thing to do---to call for a Federal investigation into this shooting.
But too early for resignation. He may decide to do just that as the protests go on (and they are going on) IMHO


Hillary Clinton calls for federal inquiry of Chicago police tactics
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-hillary-clinton-rahm-investigation-20151202-story.html

Hillary Clinton is calling for an independent federal inquiry into the Chicago Police Department's tactics following the shooting death of African-American teenager Laquan McDonald by a white police officer, her campaign told the Tribune on Wednesday.

Clinton's stance puts her at odds with Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel, who on Wednesday said he is against a full-blown federal probe.

Clinton, the front-runner for the Democratic presidential nomination, is "deeply troubled" by the shooting last year of McDonald and the "outstanding questions" it raises, her spokesman Brian Fallon said.

Emanuel has called for a task force to review the Police Department's practices, which is "an important step," Fallon said. "But given the gravity of this tragic situation, she supports a full review by the Department of Justice," he said of Clinton.

Emanuel, a powerful fellow Democrat, has come under harsh criticism for his administration's handling of the shooting and its ...............

His administration spent months trying to keep private a police video that shows McDonald being shot 16 times. The airing of the video last month set off a furor among protesters and community leaders, demanding answers about the shooting and the mystery surrounding it.

Emanuel opposes federal civil rights probe of Chicago police, admits 'mistakes'.................


But Clinton is siding with Illinois Attorney General Lisa Madigan, another influential Democrat, who has called for the Justice Department to look into the police use of deadly force. Madigan wrote a letter Tuesday asking U.S. Attorney General Loretta Lynch to launch a review because, as she put it, the "trust in the Chicago Police Department is broken."

Clinton does not believe Emanuel should step down as mayor, Fallon said...............





http://www.trbimg.com/img-56609473/turbine/ct-white-house-responds-to-laquan-mc-20151203/750/750x422
White House responds to Laquan McDonald shooting, Hillary Clinton wants federal probe of CPD. Dec 3, 2015. (WGN-TV)

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