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liberalnarb

(4,532 posts)
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 11:25 PM Dec 2015
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For Those Who Make Uninformed Statements About Bernies Platform While Attempting to Insult Him (Original Post) liberalnarb Dec 2015 OP
Great op, rec'd! They won't care, but still... beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #1
They won't even bother looking at the links passiveporcupine Dec 2015 #19
Agreed, it's a great resource to counter the lies and spin. beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #23
Well for once someone is right upaloopa Dec 2015 #53
Oh I've been right about HC supporters not caring about facts and issues all along. beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #56
There you go "attacking Clinton" again! Scootaloo Dec 2015 #2
That was sarcasm right? I know thats a stupid question I just had to ask liberalnarb Dec 2015 #4
Mockery of certain people more than sarcasm. But more or less, yeah Scootaloo Dec 2015 #6
Oh yes - I know who. 840high Dec 2015 #21
QUICK! Somebody post the latest polls!!11! Crystalite Dec 2015 #7
Thank You For Sharing These Truths cantbeserious Dec 2015 #3
Bernie's policies are easy to find... Thespian2 Dec 2015 #5
But Don't Broadcast that too Loudly...! Marty McGraw Dec 2015 #54
YEP Thespian2 Dec 2015 #55
Look at Hillary's plan- Rose Siding Dec 2015 #8
Her plan is not as progressive liberalnarb Dec 2015 #9
No- he is not the Trump On the left blondie58 Dec 2015 #11
Now thats some truth right there! liberalnarb Dec 2015 #12
I don't remember for Sure blondie58 Dec 2015 #60
I'll go with that. PatrickforO Dec 2015 #22
The New Deal. ..Teddy, The Fair Deal. .. FDR libdem4life Dec 2015 #27
I agree that her policy statements are longer but not more thorough sorechasm Dec 2015 #61
For the record, I disagree with the Sanders bashing ConservativeDemocrat Dec 2015 #10
Cheers ejbr Dec 2015 #13
Great OP. HerbChestnut Dec 2015 #14
Please, it's an absolute necessity. Post it over and over. appalachiablue Dec 2015 #15
HMMMMMMMM maybe I will liberalnarb Dec 2015 #16
We're talking about posters who forget their own posts after 30 minutes. jeff47 Dec 2015 #17
Oh no doubt. HerbChestnut Dec 2015 #18
But it will be important to readers both new & old. Truth always illumnates, like sunshine. appalachiablue Dec 2015 #20
LOL! beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #25
K&R Paka Dec 2015 #24
Thank you. I don't care who else will or will not look. I find it a handy reference. merrily Dec 2015 #26
Bookmarked! in_cog_ni_to Dec 2015 #28
they're likely not uninformed or misinformed, they're likely lying stupidicus Dec 2015 #29
Yes, some of them really use dirty Republican tricks - and often. Cal33 Dec 2015 #49
Thankyou. Menshunables Dec 2015 #30
Great reference. Bookmarked. 99Forever Dec 2015 #31
You're missing the only one they would really care about. The one where he says A Simple Game Dec 2015 #32
... liberalnarb Dec 2015 #33
Too true Doctor_J Dec 2015 #43
It's about the only thing left for an honest Hillary supporter, every other issue they have A Simple Game Dec 2015 #44
I believe I have all 12 of those "uninformed" or "purposely misleading" Hillary supporters bvar22 Dec 2015 #34
How do you put someone on ignore? liberalnarb Dec 2015 #35
EZ. bvar22 Dec 2015 #37
I just figured out ignore too but I've decided I'm not gonna use it zigby Dec 2015 #38
Well done. k&r AtomicKitten Dec 2015 #36
Kicking HerbChestnut Dec 2015 #39
Whats the difference between a kick and rec again? liberalnarb Dec 2015 #40
Easy. HerbChestnut Dec 2015 #41
Ok liberalnarb Dec 2015 #42
Who are those "those" you are referring to? Helen Borg Dec 2015 #45
Certain...folks...specifically on this site liberalnarb Dec 2015 #46
I went through the first four or five of those, and not a PEEP about HOW he's going to do... George II Dec 2015 #47
Didn't you ask "What took him so long?" after Bernie proposed an Equal Rights by gender amendment? beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #57
Most Excellent !!! - K & R !!! WillyT Dec 2015 #48
Big K & R Highway61 Dec 2015 #50
They are not uninformed, they are simply using the campaign playbook. Maedhros Dec 2015 #51
Great research. Must admit I only read the end as I'm already a Bernie supporter. But his libdem4life Dec 2015 #52
Ya got anything on public schools? n/t Smarmie Doofus Dec 2015 #58
Kicking and Rec. for information d_legendary1 Dec 2015 #59

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
19. They won't even bother looking at the links
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 01:19 AM
Dec 2015

Last edited Sun Dec 6, 2015, 02:32 AM - Edit history (1)

But great thread to bookmark for resources!

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
56. Oh I've been right about HC supporters not caring about facts and issues all along.
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 10:16 PM
Dec 2015

Not all of them of course, just some of the more obvious ones.



Thespian2

(2,741 posts)
5. Bernie's policies are easy to find...
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 11:39 PM
Dec 2015

and easy to understand...


The 1%er has an umbrella policy: Protect the Wealth of the 1%...


Rose Siding

(32,623 posts)
8. Look at Hillary's plan-
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 11:45 PM
Dec 2015

As I compare the first link you presented as a plan, with Hillary's briefing paper, I find she gives a more thorough presentation of what she wants to accomplish, and how.

https://www.hillaryclinton.com/p/briefing/factsheets/2015/10/08/wall-street-work-for-main-street/

 

liberalnarb

(4,532 posts)
9. Her plan is not as progressive
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 11:49 PM
Dec 2015

But listen, that's not why I made this thread. I posted this because people attack Bernie non stop with untrue uneducated garbage. One person told me he was the "trump of the left"

blondie58

(2,570 posts)
60. I don't remember for Sure
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 07:10 AM
Dec 2015

But I think it was Thom Hartmann WHO initially Said thar.
But it is a good Description!

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
27. The New Deal. ..Teddy, The Fair Deal. .. FDR
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 11:16 AM
Dec 2015

and The Real Deal....Bernie,

The Raw Deal...Republicans

The Current deal ... HC ...(Subject to change after Listening. .currently listening to Bernie )

sorechasm

(631 posts)
61. I agree that her policy statements are longer but not more thorough
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 08:25 AM
Dec 2015

Many of Bernie Sanders policies are legislation that he has already introduced to Congress. You can find a ton of data on each.

By contrast, HRC's policies are far from direct. They seem worded to persuade without detailed descriptions: she will 'defend....', 'toughen...', 'crack down...' Yet, she didn't introduce any of this legislation while she was Senator, as far as I know. I question her commitment to any of these policies because they could be interpreted in many ways. She always allows herself a way out.

ConservativeDemocrat

(2,720 posts)
10. For the record, I disagree with the Sanders bashing
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 11:51 PM
Dec 2015

There are differences in Democratic strategies and some differences in positions between the two top candidates.

Neither side needs to misrepresent the other.

- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community

 

HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)
14. Great OP.
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 12:05 AM
Dec 2015

Something like this will likely needed to be posted every couple of weeks so others don't "forget" about it and claim Sanders doesn't have any plans.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
17. We're talking about posters who forget their own posts after 30 minutes.
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 12:29 AM
Dec 2015

They will "forget" it frequently.

 

HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)
18. Oh no doubt.
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 12:32 AM
Dec 2015

It's actually reassuring to know that some folks have resorted to "forgetting" in order to claim their candidate is better. It reinforces the idea that I've picked the right "side" in this debate.

 

stupidicus

(2,570 posts)
29. they're likely not uninformed or misinformed, they're likely lying
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 12:38 PM
Dec 2015

and repeating that garbage is just a borrowing of one of their rightwing cousins fav debating tactics -- wear the opposition down with BS they really have no intentions of even trying to defend.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
43. Too true
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 07:06 PM
Dec 2015

glad you brought it to this thread. There have been a couple of admissions to this effect but not enough IMO

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
44. It's about the only thing left for an honest Hillary supporter, every other issue they have
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 07:15 PM
Dec 2015

used for justifying their support of her has been kicked out from underneath them and her. She's more electable in the general election probably being the last one to fall. They really only have gender left.

The funny thing is that some of them hated her in 2008 and attacked her viciously.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
34. I believe I have all 12 of those "uninformed" or "purposely misleading" Hillary supporters
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 04:13 PM
Dec 2015

on IGNORE.... so I don't see too much of that kind of reckless and irresponsible BS anymore.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
37. EZ.
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 04:31 PM
Dec 2015

Look at the top of your post, and you will see a row of 4 icons after your post count.
The last one has a red "X" over it. Push that one,
and select "Full Ignore" from the list that pops up.

zigby

(125 posts)
38. I just figured out ignore too but I've decided I'm not gonna use it
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 04:33 PM
Dec 2015

I think once the primary BBQ is over people will cool their heels. It's likea giant thanksgiving dinner, this forum

 

HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)
41. Easy.
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 06:00 PM
Dec 2015

Kicking is commenting on a thread to bump it to the top of the page. Rec'ing is clicking the 'Rec' button in the OP to support the thread. Recs are then tallied and you can see the total number next to the thread title.

George II

(67,782 posts)
47. I went through the first four or five of those, and not a PEEP about HOW he's going to do...
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 07:45 PM
Dec 2015

...anything. In fact, barely a word about what he wants to do. All he says there and in his stump speech is that "we have to stop this", "we have to stop that", etc.

And remember, he was in the Congress/Senate for 25 years watching "this" and "that" going on.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
57. Didn't you ask "What took him so long?" after Bernie proposed an Equal Rights by gender amendment?
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 10:28 PM
Dec 2015
http://election.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=766764

When you were informed that he also proposed one back in 2001 you asked why he was so inneffective and why he didn't do it every year since:

http://election.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=767412


So when the op refers to "Those Who Make Uninformed Statements About Bernies Platform While Attempting to Insult Him" it looks like they're talking about people like you, George.

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
51. They are not uninformed, they are simply using the campaign playbook.
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 07:59 PM
Dec 2015

The go-to play: post lies about Bernie in order to drive wedges between him and various targeted demographics. They know the lies are lies; they have just convinced themselves that lying is justified when in service of their greater goal.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
52. Great research. Must admit I only read the end as I'm already a Bernie supporter. But his
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 08:00 PM
Dec 2015

"war should be the last option" makes absolute sense as a foreign policy. Why would he come up with this elaborate whatever when we're not there yet. I'm very comfortable knowing that war will be our last option. That in itself says volumes based on our current and past positions.

Foreign nations deal differently with different leaders. I trust Bernie to have the best around him. Reminds me of a Henry Ford quote which I use a lot, (paraphrased, I'm sure) "I am not the smartest person in the world, but I know those who are and that's what matters."

Peace.

d_legendary1

(2,586 posts)
59. Kicking and Rec. for information
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 11:14 PM
Dec 2015

And I'm also book marking for anyone who says that Sanders has no platform

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