Truth.

You said there would be Erasure.

Almost left disappointed. Thanks for saving the situation.

K and r

Bernie Sanders wasn't trivializing civil rights victories. Sanders was arrested protesting against segregation in Chicago public schools. Sanders' first trip to DC was to hear MLK speak about civil rights.

The word "just" in "just fight racism and segregation" is understatement.

If someone says, "FDR did more than just lead us to victory in WWII. He also gave us the New Deal," that person knows WWII is a big deal and is using understatement.

Nearly a jinx.

My mother didn't just bring me into this world, she made the effort to see I was educated in mind and spirit. (I'm not minimizing being pregnant for nine months, and then going into labor, or the decision to take on the responsibility of bringing a child into the world)

They just want to congratulate each other for being so awesome in their awesome discrediting of the Bernie Monster. High fives all around!

... are only aware of King's civil rights activism. Basically, Sanders, who has first-hand knowledge of King's legacy, is expanding people's awareness of it, under the assumption everyone is already familiar with his civil rights activism. Nothing gets erased.

It's like this: "Hey, did you know he didn't just do this one amazing thing, he did other amazing things, too."

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Sanders: "Sometimes people forget he was assassinated because he stood up with sanitation workers fighting for decent wages and decent working conditions,” Sanders said, referring to King being shot in 1968 in Memphis, where he went to support striking workers."

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The OP Notice anything? Those sanitation workers were not just people fighting for fair wages and working conditions. Those strikers were BLACK MEN, fighting for the same wages and working conditions as WHITE MEN. Through Erasure, he completely leaves out very important Basic historical facts in order to appeal to his base. And it is completely unnecessary and just plain wrong to do. If one is planning on invoking the legacy of a Black Revolutionary from OUR battle for liberation in America, one needs to not erase their very blackness in order to promote their ideology. In my opinion, it is things like this that preclude him from being the candidate of Black Americans as well as of his White Male dominated base. In order to appeal to them, certain things must be sanitized from history.

...by police dogs or thrown across the street from the force of fire hoses or beaten with night sticks.

But glad you put the Washington DC and MLK in perspective, sincerely. Unlike the claim of him and many others that he "marched with MLK in 1963", he was merely in the crowd, as were hundreds of thousands of others. To hear it today, it's almost like he marched arm-in-arm with MLK and was on the dais with him.

He was in this crowd:



But in one sense he WAS "trivializing" the struggle in Memphis. As pointed out, MLK was in Memphis to get better and EQUAL pay for blacks. The white sanitation workers were already getting higher pay.

...unless one is also attacked "by police dogs" and "thrown across the street from the force of fire hoses" and "beaten with night sticks"?

...you'd think he was on the front lines of the civil rights struggle in the Deep South, which is FAR from the truth.

The fact is, he barely made it across the Mason-Dixon Line. Someone here a few days ago actually had the chutzpah to say that he "risked his life" demonstrating in Chicago!

is using disingenuous word games to try and distort the message to continue her admitted disruptions.

of the fact that this writer supposedly favors Sanders but is shilling for Clinton as front because of her feelings towards Sander's supporters?

Can throws your statement out of the window!

on KOS..

Thank you, brave.. Very descriptive title.

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"Sometimes people forget he was assassinated because he stood up with sanitation workers fighting for decent wages and decent working conditions,” Sanders said, referring to King being shot in 1968 in Memphis, where he went to support striking workers."

"Sometimes people forget he stood up with sanitation workers.." Yeah, I guess we have Bernie to remind of the real history? Give. Me. A. Break.

“This he did much more than just fight segregation and racism,”

In other words, MLK fought "much more" about economic issues than "just fight segregation and racism."

No, he didn't. And anyone who was alive then listening to his speeches knows that's not true.

Bernie was there. How could he say that?

People should really stop twisting words to alter their meaning.

I don't know, does she know ANY white people or does she only talk in generalities? I really can't take her serious any more. She has written maybe a hundred posts about the BLM incident in Seattle, but not one word about Hillary dissing the BLM when they went to talk to her, by APPOINTMENT. They didn't interrupt HER speech, but made an appointment, and she STILL dissed them.

My interactions with POC doesn't match in any way with how she sounds. Damn, the way she talks you'd think Bernie was her ex-boyfriend who she caught sleeping with her sister.

Z

the OP.

I really can't take him serious any more. I don't know, does BLM mean Bernie Loves My Sister? Hillary made an APPOINTMENT with my sister, but I guess they only talked in generalities and didn't sleep together, or maybe they were interrupted by HER speech, or maybe not and she STILL dissed my sister. Do I know ANY white people who won't talk in generalities and make an APPOINTMENT with my sister without dissing her? I can't take anything serious anymore. So much blah! blah! blah! My interactions with POC doesn't match in any way how I imagine it is in that head-thing perched on top of your body.

condescending and vicious.

This is just more of the same.

casts a pretty dark shadow on you.

that was posted from the writer.

I am sure someone would be glad to link you to it.

to have to endure the presence of a black person on a site for Democrats, even worse a black person who thinks she has the right to talk about racism and issues germane to African Americans, the single most reliable voting demographic for the Democratic party. Like most Democrats, she doesn't hold right wing views on race. I understand that some feel that any issue that isn't about promoting the interests of a minority of white men above the majority of Americans is unwelcome. But since this site has not been rebranded as Republican Underground, Democrats--which are majority people of color and women, and Democratic views will continue to surface.

Imagine a black person thinking she has the right to discuss MLK's historic legacy. She should just know that King should only be invoked as an opportunistic campaign ad, to pretend his mission was to promote the interests of the $80k plus a year demographic rather than losing his life in a fight for racial equality. Refusing to banish African Americans from the history of a leading Civil Rights figure is for you stirring racial animosity. That you can even imagine it remotely acceptable to say should shock the sensibilities of any liberal or Democrat.

The world you seek to enforce is long dead, and it is never coming back. Deal with it.

That person admits she only comes here to throw stink bombs. She admits she doesn't even like Hillary. No number of wordy posts changes that fact.

and says she now admires her, particularly on issues like gun control.

And she has not admitted to being here only to throw stink bombs. She is a Democrat. Like myself, she values the diversity of the party and the fact it doesn't seek to promote the interests of a few cranky white men pissed off that their privilege is no longer absolute.

Your hostility is not simply toward this poster, but you have voiced similar views in other discussions related to diversity, people of color, women--in sum, America.

It comes from the very top, from some of the wealthiest people and families on the face of the earth, from Dubai to San Francisco.

It flows out of corporations, defense contractors, think tanks and secret meetings in exclusive men's clubs to policy. It is no accident.

Appeasing the oligarchy, ignoring the oligarchy, only assures more of the same.

but this time the writer is a fake Clinton supporter who supposedly loves Sanders but hates his supporters.

No, wait, maybe it is the other way around?

Oh, hell, it is so confusing and so full of deceptions and dishonesty that I really won't take this writer's words as anything other than plabum.

Sanders is the only candidate running with a proven history of support for AA, civil rights and whose words matches his actions. Of course, that is why he must be smeared, distorted, lied about, and shat upon.

But this time the writer is a fake panda supporter who supposedly loves pandas but hates its supporters. No, wait, maybe it is the other way around? Am I a panda lover or a hater who loves pandas or ... Oh hell, it is so confusing that I looked up the word "plabum." PANDA SHATS. It's racial bullshit.

Thread win!

agreeing or disagreeing, being sarcastic or snarky.

Care to enlighten?

and lives among the 1% and who lives in a modest home? Who has changed their mind every time a new poll comes out that is against their previous position?

Z

I'm voting for a smart progressive politician can defeat the Republicans and get stuff done and someone who will push the supreme court to the left. That's what Hillary Clinton will do. On the other hand, a Bernie Sanders nominee would be the biggest setback for progressivism since George McGovern.

absolutely won't work with? She has been pushed to be socially progressive, but she is not economically progressive. She's calling for tax cuts, with won't help any poor person at all.

As for the Supreme court, I doubt she will appoint any left leaning judge. You do know that she is part of The Fellowship, a conservative religious organization. So, she would be your religious representative.

Z

moobu2 on Obama:
" I’ve never voted for anyone who wasn’t a democrat, and never will. I just wont vote this year if Barrack is the nominee, seriously, I would die before I’d ever cast a vote for that fake. No one in my house will vote for him either. He cant win the GE anyway. What a waste of a perfect chance to take back the Wh."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5847315

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5522246

It raises significant historical matters regarding the Memphis sanitation strike.