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JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 01:26 PM Dec 2015

Bernie Sanders’s one-dimensional campaign is hurting him badly

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That moment was a glimpse into the serious limitations that Sanders has as a candidate -- and why, as the race has turned to issues outside of his wheelhouse, he has struggled. This from WaPo's John Wagner:

Terrorism and gun violence have dominated the headlines in the aftermath of the Paris terrorist attacks and mass shootings in Colorado Springs and San Bernardino. But the Vermont senator is sticking largely to a script that has nothing to do with either — emphasizing income and wealth inequality instead, the same issues that generated an unexpected groundswell of support for him over the summer.

Sanders’s near-silence on foreign policy and gun control were hard to miss at a time when the 2016 presidential race has come to be dominated by issues of national security and terrorism. They are not easy subjects for him, given a mixed voting record in Congress on gun restrictions and a noninterventionist foreign policy that he has chosen not to make a centerpiece of his campaign.


Sanders is -- sorry Sanders people! -- surprisingly one-dimensional as a candidate. When he is talking about the differences between the haves and the have nots, about the need for more economic fairness, why we need to reform the campaign finance system or work to address global warming, he is terrific. When he is talking about anything else, he is, um, not.

Link: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/12/07/the-one-dimensionality-of-bernie-sanders-campaign-is-killing-it/?postshare=1941449508760876&tid=ss_tw
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Bernie Sanders’s one-dimensional campaign is hurting him badly (Original Post) JaneyVee Dec 2015 OP
He has a record of being on the side with republicans on gun issues and he is lacking in foreign Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #1
Ain't that the truth. workinclasszero Dec 2015 #16
Not true. Given who has been president in the past, Bernie is far more qualified than many. randys1 Dec 2015 #28
But this is now, not the past. NurseJackie Dec 2015 #49
It's not like all these issues are connected, and that the status quo relies Betty Karlson Dec 2015 #2
The next debate is almost here. Not sure what the topic was supposed to be, but livetohike Dec 2015 #3
Hillary's foreign policy ,"Shock and Awe" bahrbearian Dec 2015 #4
This is Bush's plan, how does one confuse Bush with Hillary? Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #18
Easy. bvar22 Dec 2015 #22
I think it's helping more than hurting firebrand80 Dec 2015 #5
"It's the economy, stupid." earthside Dec 2015 #6
*chortle. nt artislife Dec 2015 #53
Why is Hillary opining in NYTimes "talking tough" about Wall St. reforms then? 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #7
That is an excellent point... ljm2002 Dec 2015 #52
I think what has hurt him most... NCTraveler Dec 2015 #8
hmm Washington Post UglyGreed Dec 2015 #9
Let's hope he keeps it up MaggieD Dec 2015 #10
I have come to the same conclusion. Alfresco Dec 2015 #12
People who support his positions are pawns for supporting a candidate who is getting the issues out morningfog Dec 2015 #15
Don't expect any deep thinking or real knowlege from most Hillary supporters here notadmblnd Dec 2015 #27
Ah yes, those poor, poor Bernie supporters... ljm2002 Dec 2015 #54
As opposed to Hillary, whose foreign policy is incredibly inept. Fawke Em Dec 2015 #11
Most people disagree with you on that MaggieD Dec 2015 #13
They wouldn't if they delved into it. Fawke Em Dec 2015 #17
Okay, Che MaggieD Dec 2015 #35
Trust me... the stories of her missteps are there. Fawke Em Dec 2015 #41
Keep wishing MaggieD Dec 2015 #44
By most people... kenfrequed Dec 2015 #31
Good luck with that MaggieD Dec 2015 #33
Uhm no. kenfrequed Dec 2015 #36
Good luck with that MaggieD Dec 2015 #38
So... kenfrequed Dec 2015 #43
Nobody but extremists are buying it MaggieD Dec 2015 #46
She voted for it kenfrequed Dec 2015 #62
How do you allow Bush to evade responsibility for the Iraq war? He made the decision to invade. He Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #19
Because Congress actually has to authorize it. kenfrequed Dec 2015 #32
So why do you ignore everything she said prior to the vote? MaggieD Dec 2015 #40
See my above post kenfrequed Dec 2015 #45
Must be frustrating for you that it's not helping Bernie, huh? MaggieD Dec 2015 #48
*beep* repeat talking point of the day *beep* kenfrequed Dec 2015 #61
I don't. Fawke Em Dec 2015 #42
Sanders is running, he voted against the Brady Bill five times so Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #55
As much as I don't like Hillary the Neocon shapeshifter, adaptability is not one of Bernie's... AZ Progressive Dec 2015 #14
If your Bernie supporter angrychair Dec 2015 #21
Some things ar not "adaptable", bvar22 Dec 2015 #23
You call Hillary a shape shifter, then fault Bernie for not shape shifting. What do you think he merrily Dec 2015 #63
The only thing one-dimensional angrychair Dec 2015 #20
Thank you for posting these. Duppers Dec 2015 #29
This is,and has been,his problem from the start. sufrommich Dec 2015 #24
He's doing exactly what he wants to do taught_me_patience Dec 2015 #25
Well then- you're probably doing a happy dance. No? notadmblnd Dec 2015 #26
Oh look, another hit piece against Bernie..... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #30
Did you forget the WP doesn't like Hillary either? Omaha Steve Dec 2015 #34
Ridiculous, unless you mean by one-dimensional... blackspade Dec 2015 #37
Somehow, I don't believe you'd post this if you actually thought the article was correct. jeff47 Dec 2015 #39
Chris Cillizza is lying to the American people. Eric J in MN Dec 2015 #47
One trick pony n/t MoonRiver Dec 2015 #50
I don't often agree with Chris Cillizza But he nails it here Gothmog Dec 2015 #51
Aw. A conveyor of Beltway Insider Conventional Wisdom thinks Sanders is one-dimensional Armstead Dec 2015 #56
Keep it up, bernie. Remember.. you're not going to let them stop you from talking about what Cha Dec 2015 #57
If Bernie followed convention he'd be polling like O'Malley which is what the HRC crowd wants. aikoaiko Dec 2015 #58
Well if I felt like you ibegurpard Dec 2015 #59
Kick. JaneyVee Dec 2015 #60

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
1. He has a record of being on the side with republicans on gun issues and he is lacking in foreign
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 01:29 PM
Dec 2015

policy. At the present time these are two issues which we are confronted with and needs good knowledge and ability to move forward on both issues.

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
2. It's not like all these issues are connected, and that the status quo relies
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 01:31 PM
Dec 2015

on not dealing with them, also known as dealing with them separately.

livetohike

(22,165 posts)
3. The next debate is almost here. Not sure what the topic was supposed to be, but
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 01:36 PM
Dec 2015

there will be foreign policy questions for sure.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
22. Easy.
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 02:54 PM
Dec 2015

Bush & Hillary walked Arm in Arm into the Iraq War.
She had his back.

Bush needed a few heavy weight Democrats to endorse the IWR to prevent trials for War Crimes or impeachment.
NOW, the disaster in the Middle East. belongs to Republicans AND Democrats.

One saving grace for Bush...he had absolutely NOTHING to do with the destruction of Libya, and putting the terrorists in charge.

firebrand80

(2,760 posts)
5. I think it's helping more than hurting
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 01:38 PM
Dec 2015

He has a simple message that's easy to understand, and he delivers it with passion. The fact that O'Malley has no ideological space shows how effective Bernie has been. O'M has actually accomplished many of the types of things Bernie is talking about, and no one gives a damn.

It's a good strategy if your goal is to "influence the debate," but it won't win the Primary.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
7. Why is Hillary opining in NYTimes "talking tough" about Wall St. reforms then?
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 01:49 PM
Dec 2015

If reigning-in Wall St. greed & corruption is such a "losing" issue, why is Hillary falling all
over herself now to broadcast how "tough" she will be on Wall St. ??

ljm2002

(10,751 posts)
52. That is an excellent point...
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 04:31 PM
Dec 2015

...although I doubt you'll get any responses from Hillary's Keyboard Warriors Brigade.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
8. I think what has hurt him most...
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 01:53 PM
Dec 2015

is that a couple of weeks in they were forced to focus on multiple areas, not just the one they were on. That really threw them for a loop.

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
9. hmm Washington Post
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 01:56 PM
Dec 2015

Is Jeff Bezos A Horrible Boss And Is That Good?

According to Mr. Stone, Mr. Bezos thrives on confrontation and puts employees through “fire drills” when addressing issues raised by customers in which he has taken a personal interest. All it takes is a question mark in the subject line of an e-mail forwarded by Mr. Bezos for all heck to break loose.

Mr. Stone writes that Mr. Bezos is not dissimilar to other technology executives, including Mr. Jobs, Bill Gates, Steve Ballmer and Andy Grove, when it comes to making work difficult for employees. Mr. Bezos, Amazon employees say, sometimes explodes into what they call “nutters.”


Most of his outbursts are a direct result of his total commitment to improving customer service and, in turn, his company’s performance. That doesn’t make them any less blistering. Here are a few of Mr. Bezos’ greatest hits, according to the book:

“Are you lazy or just incompetent?”

“We need to apply some human intelligence to this problem.”


http://www.forbes.com/sites/retailwire/2013/10/22/is-jeff-bezos-a-horrible-boss-and-is-that-good/

He seems to hate workers and Bernie fights for the working class.............

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
10. Let's hope he keeps it up
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 01:58 PM
Dec 2015

Although it is probably too late for him to salvage a victory. I honestly don't think he wants to win. I think he just wants to get his issues out there, and his supporters (particularly the ones donating) are being used as his pawns.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
15. People who support his positions are pawns for supporting a candidate who is getting the issues out
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 02:08 PM
Dec 2015

there?

Didn't think that one through, did you?

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
27. Don't expect any deep thinking or real knowlege from most Hillary supporters here
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 03:12 PM
Dec 2015

Snark, rudeness and being nasty is what they tend to excel at.

ljm2002

(10,751 posts)
54. Ah yes, those poor, poor Bernie supporters...
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 04:47 PM
Dec 2015

...they must be ignorant chumps, who don't understand their own interests, and are being used by a Machiavellian Bernie Sanders to (gasp!) "get his issues out there". The horror!

Whereas Hillary's supporters do understand their own interests: among other things, they don't have to donate so much, because she has taken care of the $$$ issue by bundling donors from Big Money sources. That just goes to show how truly supportive and helpful she is to The Little People.

Yeah, that's the ticket.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
11. As opposed to Hillary, whose foreign policy is incredibly inept.
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 02:01 PM
Dec 2015

She favors neoconservative/neoliberalism intervention, which has done nothing but make things worse. ISIS is as a result of her Iraqi war vote. She's not alone, of course, but following neoconservatives into that country destabilized the region and brought us a Hydra much worse than Saddam Hussein, who was of no threat to anyone outside of his country.

Clinton is not STRONG on foreign policy, but she is WRONG.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
17. They wouldn't if they delved into it.
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 02:11 PM
Dec 2015

And, I think if she gets the nomination, the media will be happy to oblige in pointing out her incredible missteps as SoS.

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
35. Okay, Che
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 03:35 PM
Dec 2015

"Secretary of State Hillary Clinton leaves the post as an overwhelmingly popular figure on the national political stage.

An eye-popping 69% of Americans approve of the job she has done as the country’s top diplomat, according to the latest Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll, with a scant 25% disapproving of her performance."

Whatever you say.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
41. Trust me... the stories of her missteps are there.
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 03:49 PM
Dec 2015

They just haven't worked themselves out into the mainstream beyond, "Benghazi," yet, but they will. They will.

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
44. Keep wishing
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 03:51 PM
Dec 2015

Both dems and rethugs praised her, and the American people agreed. Any attempts to rewrite history will fail.

kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)
31. By most people...
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 03:30 PM
Dec 2015

Do you mean people comfortable with continual military action?

No, I'm sorry I don't think most people agree with the eternal war on terror.

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
33. Good luck with that
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 03:34 PM
Dec 2015
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2013/01/17/wsjnbc-poll-hillary-clinton-exits-with-69-approval-rating/

"Secretary of State Hillary Clinton leaves the post as an overwhelmingly popular figure on the national political stage.

An eye-popping 69% of Americans approve of the job she has done as the country’s top diplomat, according to the latest Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll, with a scant 25% disapproving of her performance."

Facts are a lovely thing.

kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)
36. Uhm no.
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 03:37 PM
Dec 2015

You responded specifically about a foreign policy concern.

My question stands. Do you think that Americans really favor increased engagement on the stupid "War on Terror"?


Good luck giving a direct answer.

kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)
43. So...
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 03:51 PM
Dec 2015

She was so savvy and smart that she somehow didn't think the Bushies would go to war in Iraq?

Or...

She actually believed that Iraq was involved and that things would work out with the invasion?

Or...

She didn't want to be seen as being 'anti-war'?

Or....

Was it all political calculus?




Your article is also absurd. They make a big deal about some of the subsections of the bill when the heading of that section said "Authorization for use of united states armed forces."

Also, the author quickly closed comments on the bloody thing.

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
46. Nobody but extremists are buying it
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 04:01 PM
Dec 2015

Probably would have helped if the extremists hadn't pretended she was itching to go to war when that is demonstrably false. But they over reached like extremists are prone to do. 69% approval rating as SOS ought to tell you that.

The millennials were 8 years old at the time. It's meaningless to them. So no help there.

Who is going to attack her on it in the GE? Republicans? LOL. No.

Sorry, you can rail about it from here to kingdom come. It's not working and it's not going to work.

kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)
62. She voted for it
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 10:10 AM
Dec 2015

And she voted for it for one of the above reasons.
Political expediency
Ignorance of the situqtion
Foolhardy belief in the Bushies
Or political image.


None of these reasons are acceptable.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
19. How do you allow Bush to evade responsibility for the Iraq war? He made the decision to invade. He
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 02:17 PM
Dec 2015

did not exhaust all means before invading which is what the IWR called him to do. Don't make it an easy escape responsibility for his actions.

kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)
32. Because Congress actually has to authorize it.
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 03:32 PM
Dec 2015

Seperation of powers and all that. The president needs congressional authorization to go to war (with a few annoying exceptions). Basic high school civics.

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
40. So why do you ignore everything she said prior to the vote?
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 03:48 PM
Dec 2015
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/11/6/1445490/-Hillary-Clinton-did-not-vote-for-war-Listen-to-her-own-words-before-the-vote

Here is a nice summary, since you clearly never listened to what she actually said:

1) We are here to vote to give the president authority to use military force should diplomatic methods fail.
2) Dissent on this measure is good, and shows our strength as a democracy. I respect all of the opinions opposing the resolution. They may be correct.
3) It is indisputable that Saddam is a monster. Our monster, supported in the 80's by the US (read: Reagan and Bush I administrations).
4) Bush I did not protect the Shia and Kurds after the war initially (twist the knife a little more).
5) The UN imposed many restrictions on Saddam, including weapons inspections and no fly zones to keep him from being a jerk. The inspectors found ridiculous quantities of WMD and programs to make more and worse weapons.
6) Saddam tried to get sanctions lifted by disallowing inspections in 1998. US policy became regime change, not just containment. The inspectors withdrew (note: they were asked to by the US), and President Clinton bombed all suspected sites (note: along with a lot of air defense systems and centers of Baathist authority)
7) In the 4 years since the last inspections, intelligence indicates Saddam has rebuilt. (She accepts Bush's intelligence reports.)
8) Saddam had nothing to do with Sept 11.
9) If Saddam gets WMD again, it will suck for everyone.
10) Unilateral invasion and regime change is not the answer. It would kill our credibility, and leave Iraq a wreck. Hey, remember how awesome Bill was on this kind of policy to remove Milosovic?
11) It would be great to depend on UN alone, but the Security Council is full of jerks. When it cannot get the job done, coalitions can be built without it for just causes.
12) I believe we can get the UN Security Council to remove the 1998 UN restrictions on inspectors and institute an unfettered inspection regime. They will not give Bush Carte Blanche to invade. This has a chance to build up the reputation and effectiveness of the UN.
13) If Saddam complies, it will result in the removal of all WMD without war. Regime change will have to come later.
14) If Saddam refuses, we will be able to build a real coalition to get the job done and rebuild Iraq.
15) If the Security Council blocks it, we will have the moral authority to build a coalition (like we did in Bosnia).
16) Going to war is bad. If Hussein does have weapons, he will have every reason to use them. Better to have allies who can help us rebuild Iraq, and discourage him from using WMD. We cannot do this unilaterally.
17) Bush has toned down the war rhetoric. His recent speech makes clear he wants to go through the UN. This resolution is not perfect, but I think it empowers him to do the right thing to disarm Iraq without war. I take him at his word he will work through the UN.
18)I believe the measure must pass with real bi-partisan support to convince the Security Council to create the new resolution.
19) This vote is hard, and it should be. But I respect the office of the President which I was next to for 8 years. I want Hussein to give into inspections. And I want the military to know that if they do have to invade, all of America is united behind them.
20) This is not a vote for pre-emption, unilateralism, or any other dumb thing the Republicans have advocated.
21) Saddam has been playing a long game with WMD. It needs to end.
22) War can be avoided. I am voting to call on Bush to go to the UN.
23) As a senator from New York which just lost so many to terrorism, my constituents are telling me to take the threat seriously.
24) This is not a vote to go to war. This is a vote telling the president that war is the last resort if diplomacy fails. The goal is only disarmament.

She could not be more clear in her goals or intention. Resolve this without war. Use the UN.

kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)
45. See my above post
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 03:57 PM
Dec 2015

And Bush had a cabinet and administration of policy people that were dedicated to war in Iraq BEFORE 9-11.

Somehow a smart, savvy politician didn't know that?

The bill section was Authorization for use of Military Force. Everything else is just so much political positioning. There were plenty of Democrats that were willing to take a principled stand against this.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
42. I don't.
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 03:51 PM
Dec 2015

He's not running. She is.

The fact is that she's a neoliberal interventionist, which is the same damn thing as a neocon. Even Robert Kagan thinks so.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
55. Sanders is running, he voted against the Brady Bill five times so
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 04:48 PM
Dec 2015

He can take responsibility for the gun deaths.

AZ Progressive

(3,411 posts)
14. As much as I don't like Hillary the Neocon shapeshifter, adaptability is not one of Bernie's...
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 02:08 PM
Dec 2015

strengths, seemingly.

What Bernie is saying on the campaign trail is essentially the same thing he has been saying for at least the 10 years he's been on the Thom Hartmann show, and probably a lot longer seeing some videos of him in 1992.

angrychair

(8,738 posts)
21. If your Bernie supporter
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 02:42 PM
Dec 2015

I suggest you look at my post #20....Your evaluation is unfair. He has spoken often on foreign policy issues and his website has detailed foreign policy positions.

http://feelthebern.org/bernie-sanders-on-foreign-policy-and-national-security/bernie-sanders-on-foreign-policy/

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
23. Some things ar not "adaptable",
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 03:00 PM
Dec 2015

nor are they For Sale.

I've been listening to Brunch with Bernie since it started, and he has proved to be amazingly adaptable.

For instance:
He tried to get a Public Option into the ACA, but couldn't get enough Democratic support...
SO...he adapted..and got one for Vermont or any other state that wished to try.

That is just ONE instance of adaptability...but a very BIG one.
Anyway, all I need is one documented incident to destroy your thesis that Bernie is not adaptable.

Have a nice day!

merrily

(45,251 posts)
63. You call Hillary a shape shifter, then fault Bernie for not shape shifting. What do you think he
Sat Dec 12, 2015, 10:37 AM
Dec 2015

should have changed?

angrychair

(8,738 posts)
20. The only thing one-dimensional
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 02:39 PM
Dec 2015

Is the optics you choose to look through and the paper tiger of an attack piece you attempt to use to make your point. His campaign is not one-dimensional and it is not the only thing he speaks about. The problem that people like you, as well as this article writer, have an agenda and that agenda is many things but fair and objective it is not.
Try listening more and talking less.

Bernie Sanders’s refreshingly sane foreign policy
http://www.salon.com/2015/11/25/bernie_sanderss_refreshingly_sane_foreign_policy/


Sanders determined to be heard in foreign policy
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/bernie-sanders-determined-heard-foreign-policy/story?id=35295352

Bernie Sanders immigration plan
http://www.thenation.com/article/bernie-sanders-spells-out-his-immigration-plan/

On ISIS
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/8626570

Bernie Sanders is right about Saudi Arabia and Yemen and ISIS
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/nov/24/bernie-s/bernie-sanders-right-saudi-arabia-more-focused-con/

Bernie Sanders on war and peace
https://berniesanders.com/issues/war-and-peace/

Bernie Sanders' foreign policy positions
http://feelthebern.org/bernie-sanders-on-foreign-policy-and-national-security/bernie-sanders-on-foreign-policy/


sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
24. This is,and has been,his problem from the start.
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 03:00 PM
Dec 2015

"Being one-dimensional is very much not ok at the presidential level. The challenges the country faces -- both domestically and internationally -- are legion, and an ability to rapidly shift from one area of focus to another, no matter where your true passions lie, is essential."

 

taught_me_patience

(5,477 posts)
25. He's doing exactly what he wants to do
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 03:05 PM
Dec 2015

get his message out. He has no real chance to win the primary, so it isn't really hurting him.

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
37. Ridiculous, unless you mean by one-dimensional...
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 03:39 PM
Dec 2015

Wealth inequality, racial inequality, Wall Street reform, equal rights for women, minorities, and LGBT, infrastructure revitalization, job creation, universal healthcare, green energy, prison reform, drug reform.......I could go on. All this including a measured approach to foreign policy.
So, one-dimensional my ass.
This is another bullshit M$M meme being peddled to direct attention away from a host issues our country faces that the oligarchs that run the show would rather not talk about..
John Wagner can take his establishment opinion and cram it up his cram hole.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
39. Somehow, I don't believe you'd post this if you actually thought the article was correct.
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 03:45 PM
Dec 2015

After all, it would mean your candidate wins easily. Posting it would be an attempt to change the course of the Sanders campaign.

Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
47. Chris Cillizza is lying to the American people.
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 04:02 PM
Dec 2015

The first debate question was, "You will each have one minute for an opening statement to share your thoughts about the attacks in Paris, and lay out your vision for America." That's what Bernie Sanders did.

But Chris Cillizza writes, "The first question was, predictably, about the attacks and what they meant for both the ongoing fight against ISIS and the broader battle against terrorism."

Cillizza omits the "lay out your vision for America" half-of-the-question to try to make it seem strange that Sanders used his minute to talk about terrorism and then his vision for America.




Gothmog

(145,667 posts)
51. I don't often agree with Chris Cillizza But he nails it here
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 04:25 PM
Dec 2015

Cillizza is correct in that Sanders is one-demenisional which hampers his ability to expand his base. So far Sanders has made no or only small inroads with African American voters and Latino voters and I do not see that changing

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
56. Aw. A conveyor of Beltway Insider Conventional Wisdom thinks Sanders is one-dimensional
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 06:27 PM
Dec 2015

Those people who sip cocktails with each other and politicians and other elites and pat each other on the back...And quietly laugh at the boobs in the outer darkness beyond the beltway....Yeah. They get it all right.

Cha

(297,812 posts)
57. Keep it up, bernie. Remember.. you're not going to let them stop you from talking about what
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 07:18 PM
Dec 2015

you want to talk about.

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