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Senator Elizabeth Warren, "I love what Bernie is talking about... (Original Post) Playinghardball Dec 2015 OP
Now that's a ringing endorsment Autumn Dec 2015 #1
Kinda pushing, huh, when she signed the letter for Hillary to run would be closer to an endorsement. Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #2
In which solar system is encouraging someone to run an endorsement? merrily Dec 2015 #4
The same universe where saying that you like what Hillary is saying is an endorsement? Autumn Dec 2015 #9
I love what Bernie is saying, too! I'd endorse him any day of the week and merrily Dec 2015 #10
Oh me too. And three times on Moday Autumn Dec 2015 #11
We vote on Tuesdays so lots of endorsements on Mondays are good! merrily Dec 2015 #12
That letter was signed in April 2014... CoffeeCat Dec 2015 #5
Recommended post. pacalo Dec 2015 #17
Clearly, she is not ready to endorse Sanders either. eom lunamagica Dec 2015 #18
Actually, the letter was signed in 2013, when Warren was a freshman Senator Art_from_Ark Dec 2015 #30
That was over 18 months ago... ljm2002 Dec 2015 #6
The Hill reported it on June 30, 2015 Playinghardball Dec 2015 #14
I was responding to the post... ljm2002 Dec 2015 #15
Jesus Christmas!! Why am not surprised. n/t Dawgs Dec 2015 #16
Post removed Post removed Dec 2015 #3
Or just maybe Warren likes both Bernie and Hillary... Cali_Democrat Dec 2015 #7
Exactly. The most logical conclusion for her not endorsing is that she'll be happy with either one lunamagica Dec 2015 #19
LMAO UglyGreed Dec 2015 #8
Another bs hide! merrily Dec 2015 #21
Wow UglyGreed Dec 2015 #22
Supposedly, Bernie's supporters are the sole alert stalkers and controlling all juries, too. merrily Dec 2015 #23
IMO trying to control UglyGreed Dec 2015 #26
I know. But extremely fuzzy math "proves" Bernie's supporters control all juries. merrily Dec 2015 #27
Just be careful UglyGreed Dec 2015 #29
Thanks for the heads up. Being careful helps, but is no guaranty. merrily Dec 2015 #31
Yes indeed UglyGreed Dec 2015 #32
In fairness, the donation can be small. Have you seen this post? merrily Dec 2015 #33
Thank you for the UglyGreed Dec 2015 #40
I do see your point, but it is what is. May as well know how to work the system. merrily Dec 2015 #42
Yes it is what is UglyGreed Dec 2015 #45
Of all the things in the world we could beat ourselves up over, that is VERY low on the list merrily Dec 2015 #47
She was alerted on on earlier and that post was left Autumn Dec 2015 #24
Outrageous. I thought posts that have been juried once cannot be alerted on a second time? merrily Dec 2015 #25
No not on this one. A post in the other thread was alerted on Autumn Dec 2015 #28
Feh. merrily Dec 2015 #34
Yeah I've seen that one pretty often Autumn Dec 2015 #35
Did it ever fool you? (aka, why do they even bother?) merrily Dec 2015 #36
No, it doesn't fool me. Autumn Dec 2015 #37
K&R! marym625 Dec 2015 #13
And dip it in chocolate! merrily Dec 2015 #38
Well, always! Always dipped in chocolate! marym625 Dec 2015 #39
What could be better than praise dipped in chocolate? merrily Dec 2015 #41
Nope. Nada. Zilch. Zero. marym625 Dec 2015 #43
Cool Whip? What the monkey? merrily Dec 2015 #44
Oh that's awesome! marym625 Dec 2015 #46
My fresh vanilla-tinged, slightly-sweetened, frozen whipped cream dollops get them every time. merrily Dec 2015 #48
LOL marym625 Dec 2015 #49
I was just over at the discussion of Warren's endorsement (or not) of Clinton's economic policy. Nitram Dec 2015 #20

merrily

(45,251 posts)
4. In which solar system is encouraging someone to run an endorsement?
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 01:41 PM
Dec 2015

I think Warren may well endorse Hillary at some point, but encouraging someone to run is no endorsement.

Autumn

(45,120 posts)
9. The same universe where saying that you like what Hillary is saying is an endorsement?
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 02:09 PM
Dec 2015

Like Liz I love what Bernie is saying.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
5. That letter was signed in April 2014...
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 01:46 PM
Dec 2015

...more than a year and a half ago. This was Before Sanders had decided to run.

That letter, by the way, was not an endorsement. It was from all female senators, encouraging Hillary to run. It was organized by Barbara Boxer and it was a private show of support.

Like a Hallmark greeting card saying, "You go girl!"

It was not even close to an endorsement.

More important than a symbolic letter from 2014, is Warren's absence from a Clinton fundraiser that was attended by all female senators, except Warren.

Clearly, she is not ready to endorse Hillary. If she was, she would have done so. Failing to attend that fundraiser isn't exactly a positive sign.



Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
30. Actually, the letter was signed in 2013, when Warren was a freshman Senator
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 07:55 PM
Dec 2015

and was probably under pressure to sign it.

"Despite signing a letter that urged Clinton to run for president in 2013, Warren has so far declined to officially endorse her campaign. The senator, who liberal organizers failed to draft into a presidential campaign for much of 2014 and 2015, told CNN earlier this year that the letter she signed was not an endorsement for the Clinton campaign."

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/11/30/politics/hillary-clinton-elizabeth-warren-fundraiser/

ljm2002

(10,751 posts)
15. I was responding to the post...
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 02:52 PM
Dec 2015

...that was trying to claim that since Elizabeth Warren signed the letter for Hillary to run for President, that was closer to an endorsement:

when she signed the letter for Hillary to run would be closer to an endorsement.


I am absolutely thrilled that Elizabeth Warren is lending her support to Bernie's topics. And that was my point, since that is CURRENTLY what is going on. The letter that Warren signed happened over 18 months ago.

Response to Playinghardball (Original post)

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
19. Exactly. The most logical conclusion for her not endorsing is that she'll be happy with either one
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 03:48 PM
Dec 2015

them winning the primary.

Now, Sanders needs this endorsement much more than Hillary does. Sanders needs Democratic endorsements. His showing there is pathetic, and an endorsement from Warren would mean a lot to his campaign. Senator Warren knows this, and yet, she is not endorsing him.

That tells me she's OK with both of them.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
23. Supposedly, Bernie's supporters are the sole alert stalkers and controlling all juries, too.
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 07:39 PM
Dec 2015

The bs never stops.

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
26. IMO trying to control
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 07:46 PM
Dec 2015

the conversation, either by slander or silencing the opposition. When that fails it is time to play the victim. SMH!

merrily

(45,251 posts)
31. Thanks for the heads up. Being careful helps, but is no guaranty.
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 10:34 PM
Dec 2015

The major determinant these days seems to be the luck of the draw as to jurors.

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
32. Yes indeed
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 10:43 PM
Dec 2015

Like I wrote in another thread I never even knew of the jury blacklist until today. Never needed protection until now. I find it odd though you can increase your blacklist if you pay for a Star membership. Money makes the world go around.....


UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
40. Thank you for the
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 10:25 AM
Dec 2015

info, I never knew of those options. Don't get me wrong, I understand the site is private and wants to make money, still I find it odd to be able to buy "protection" from juries no matter the cost. I hope you understand my point of view.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
42. I do see your point, but it is what is. May as well know how to work the system.
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 10:33 AM
Dec 2015

For me, the advice in that post is just too much work. But, others may want to protect themselves as much as they can.

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
45. Yes it is what is
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 10:48 AM
Dec 2015

and I thank you for that link. Better to be informed and know the rules. I should of known of this long ago and that is my own fault.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
25. Outrageous. I thought posts that have been juried once cannot be alerted on a second time?
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 07:43 PM
Dec 2015

That is the import of the message I have gotten. Something like "This message has already been alerted on."

merrily

(45,251 posts)
34. Feh.
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 06:00 AM
Dec 2015

I've been noticing a new one in the alerts: "and I'm a Bernie supporter, too!"

Uh huh, sure ya are.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
44. Cool Whip? What the monkey?
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 10:48 AM
Dec 2015

We are not Marily on Cool Whip, but I do a great whipped cream, sweetened and firmed a bit with some confectioners' sugar and a trace of fresh vanilla. If you like, I'll even make dollops and freeze them.

Trust Marily on this this. You will never give that ersatz Cool Whip the time of day again!

Nitram

(22,915 posts)
20. I was just over at the discussion of Warren's endorsement (or not) of Clinton's economic policy.
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 04:02 PM
Dec 2015

I wonder if all the Bernistas over there who kept insisting that it was not an endorsement because all she said was:

..."whether it's attacking the CFPB, undermining new rules to rein in unscrupulous retirement advisors, or rolling back any part of the hard-fought progress we've made on financial reform, she and I agree."

...would say the same about this? Clearly not an endorsement for president in either case, clearly and endorsement of some aspect of their platform.

Anyway, if that's not an endorsement, then this isn't an endorsement:

My opinion, she likes them both and would like to influence both of them. She likes some of Clinton's ideas, and others not so much. She likes the issues that Bernie is talking about (notice, no endorsement of what he said about the issues).

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