2016 Postmortem

Bubzer

(4,211 posts) Mon Dec 7, 2015, 05:21 PM Dec 2015

Elizabeth Warren praises Bernie Sanders (noncommittal on primary endorsement)

The progressive Massachusetts senator, who has withheld her coveted endorsement, was asked about that Friday night by the Boston Herald’s Chris Cassidy at a holiday lighting ceremony in Melrose.

“It’s just not time for me to do that yet,” Warren told Cassidy, adding that she doesn’t know when she might make an endorsement. She also rejected Cassidy’s suggestion that Clinton’s primary rival, Bernie Sanders, was losing popularity.

“Bernie is doing what Bernie always does — he’s out there talking from the heart, raising the issues that he’s raised for decades now,” Warren said. “That’s just who he is.”

Her words echoed past appraisals of the Vermont senator, who trails Clinton in the polls in all early-voting states besides New Hampshire. “Bernie is there on the issues,” Warren told Cassidy in June. “That’s what matters to a lot of people.”

http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/2015/12/06/elizabeth-warren-noncommittal-primary-endorsement-but-praises-bernie-sanders/62m66cEeN8xn6LXXtJTRhI/story.html

20 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

Elizabeth Warren praises Bernie Sanders (noncommittal on primary endorsement) (Original Post) Bubzer Dec 2015 OP

Liz is doing the right thing, while I believe she wants to endorse Bernie, she knows randys1 Dec 2015 #1

This has always been my interpretation. You don't blow dry powder until you're sure it matters. JonLeibowitz Dec 2015 #3

If she comes out for Hillary, I wonder what some around here will say randys1 Dec 2015 #4

Likely less than they would say were it not for the TOS. JonLeibowitz Dec 2015 #6

What? Blacklist? Whaaaaaat? randys1 Dec 2015 #7

Alternatively called a hit list. I imagine many establishment politicians have them. JonLeibowitz Dec 2015 #9

A record of who endorsed her and who didnt? You call that a hit list? Irresponsible phrasing randys1 Dec 2015 #10

I wouldn't call it a hit list. You'll note i called it a blacklist because i disagree JonLeibowitz Dec 2015 #16

Not just for that reason. If Liz is half the middle class proponent she claims to be, she will randys1 Dec 2015 #17

Sure. No disagreement here. But she is aware of the political calculus as well. JonLeibowitz Dec 2015 #20

DU liberals should prepare themselves emotionally for when Liz Warren endorses Hillary Cheese Sandwich Dec 2015 #2

If that happens, honest, true liberals will understand why. They may not be thrilled randys1 Dec 2015 #8

True Liberals would not UglyGreed Dec 2015 #11

Wait, so if Hillary is the candidate, true liberals will sit it out risking a rightwing randys1 Dec 2015 #12

True Liberals would UglyGreed Dec 2015 #13

Wait, if Sanders is NOT the nominee, true liberals would do what? randys1 Dec 2015 #14

If Sanders is not the UglyGreed Dec 2015 #15

Yep floriduck Dec 2015 #18

Vote with your mind and your UglyGreed Dec 2015 #19

i think warren would endorse sanders if he wins iowa and/or new hampshire JI7 Dec 2015 #5

randys1

(16,286 posts)

1. Liz is doing the right thing, while I believe she wants to endorse Bernie, she knows

Reply to Bubzer (Original post)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 05:25 PM

Dec 2015

she has to be careful not to unless he is showing great strength (polls, votes)
If not, then she knows she needs to come out in support of Hillary as winning is really all that matters right now.

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)

3. This has always been my interpretation. You don't blow dry powder until you're sure it matters.

Reply to randys1 (Reply #1)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 05:58 PM

Dec 2015

randys1

(16,286 posts)

4. If she comes out for Hillary, I wonder what some around here will say

Reply to JonLeibowitz (Reply #3)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 05:59 PM

Dec 2015

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)

6. Likely less than they would say were it not for the TOS.

Reply to randys1 (Reply #4)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 06:02 PM

Dec 2015

I'll be very disappointed, but I understand that Hillary is known for having a political black list; it would hurt progressive causes if she were to end up there for no possible benefit.

I will not take an endorsement, necessarily, as an indication of who she supports the most ideologically.

randys1

(16,286 posts)

7. What? Blacklist? Whaaaaaat?

Reply to JonLeibowitz (Reply #6)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 06:04 PM

Dec 2015

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)

9. Alternatively called a hit list. I imagine many establishment politicians have them.

Reply to randys1 (Reply #7)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 06:08 PM

Dec 2015

Politico did a story a while back: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/01/hillary-clinton-hit-list-102067

randys1

(16,286 posts)

10. A record of who endorsed her and who didnt? You call that a hit list? Irresponsible phrasing

Reply to JonLeibowitz (Reply #9)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 06:15 PM

Dec 2015

As an actual liberal, as an actual democratic socialist, I can give you an endless list of reasons why Hillary isnt liberal enough for me, but what is happening here is just attacking her for the sake of attacking her.

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)

16. I wouldn't call it a hit list. You'll note i called it a blacklist because i disagree

Reply to randys1 (Reply #10)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 06:34 PM

Dec 2015

With the language. You'll also note i haven't attacked her. I do understand that one can gain political favor with a future president by endorsing--and i understand that Liz Warren understands that.

randys1

(16,286 posts)

17. Not just for that reason. If Liz is half the middle class proponent she claims to be, she will

Reply to JonLeibowitz (Reply #16)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 06:35 PM

Dec 2015

gladly work on behalf of Hillary if Bernie isnt in as she knows better than ALL of us just how bad the other side is.

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)

20. Sure. No disagreement here. But she is aware of the political calculus as well.

Reply to randys1 (Reply #17)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 07:48 PM

Dec 2015

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)

2. DU liberals should prepare themselves emotionally for when Liz Warren endorses Hillary

Reply to Bubzer (Original post)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 05:32 PM

Dec 2015

Be strong guys. Life goes on.

randys1

(16,286 posts)

8. If that happens, honest, true liberals will understand why. They may not be thrilled

Reply to Cheese Sandwich (Reply #2)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 06:05 PM

Dec 2015

but they will understand it and support it.

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)

11. True Liberals would not

Reply to randys1 (Reply #8)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 06:19 PM

Dec 2015

be supporting Hillary and they should be very upset if Warren goes against her own principles.

randys1

(16,286 posts)

12. Wait, so if Hillary is the candidate, true liberals will sit it out risking a rightwing

Reply to UglyGreed (Reply #11)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 06:20 PM

Dec 2015

racist terrorist taking over not just the country but the nuclear codes?

Really?

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)

13. True Liberals would

Reply to randys1 (Reply #12)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 06:22 PM

Dec 2015

support Sanders. New Democrats types and scare tactics be damned.

randys1

(16,286 posts)

14. Wait, if Sanders is NOT the nominee, true liberals would do what?

Reply to UglyGreed (Reply #13)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 06:24 PM

Dec 2015

I know what Sanders will be doing, how about you?

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)

15. If Sanders is not the

Reply to randys1 (Reply #14)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 06:30 PM

Dec 2015

nominee it just proves that the Democratic Party is not a party of the people but just another wing of the right. As we have seen since the late 80s Centrist right leaning dems have caused great harm to the poor and middle class. Enough is enough and we must stop this lurch to the right our country has taken. Call me all the names you like but it is the truth and I'm not afraid to say so.

floriduck

(2,262 posts)

18. Yep

Reply to UglyGreed (Reply #15)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 06:40 PM

Dec 2015

When the GE takes place, I will support the candidate that best aligns with my ideology. That candidate is Bernie Sanders. I'll write him in if I have to but I'll not settle for the lesser person, party or not. As for the threat of SCOTUS picks, Reagan actually put people on the bench who are now on the liberal side. And if Republicans get in and destroy more of America, the people will eventually right this grounded ship.

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)

19. Vote with your mind and your

Reply to floriduck (Reply #18)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 06:47 PM

Dec 2015

heart, I for one will not call you names or blame you for things you have no control over. Perhaps if people would do these things and not be brainwashed by propaganda and threats we would be able to have a say in what kind of government controls our future. IMO Getting money out of politics is our first step and it seems Bernie is trying to do so.

JI7

(89,280 posts)

5. i think warren would endorse sanders if he wins iowa and/or new hampshire

Reply to Bubzer (Original post)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 06:02 PM

Dec 2015

After iowa it will depend on what new hampshire looks like. If it looks like he will win she will wait until after to endorse him.

But if it's close she may endorse as a way to help him win the state.

Reply to this discussion