If you're supportive of a candidate who clearly uses careful wording to avoid answering questions and has shifted themselves in the name of expedience, perhaps you should either...

1. Reconsider and truly digest how Hillary compares to the many politicians before her who have used the same tricks and tactics.

or

2. Accept that you're supporting a typical politician, the type that has been yanking our chains for decades.

When I see posts like yours, it only rings in my ear as "I cannot defend Hillary so I will instead mock the message"

You don't come off as clever, you come off as ill-equipped.

1) How much they are potentially damaging the Democratic Party, and
2) How much they denigrate the Sanders campaign with their constant negative harping and hyperbolic attacks on Clinton. The Sanders cadre has really alienated everyone else on this Board.

Sauce for the goose....etc.

Democratic Party is?

Sanders-low change of boots on the ground

Republicans-boots will be on the ground

Clinton-boots will be on the ground

Now who is damaging the Democratic Party? IMO, it is Clinton.

The Clintons, and all their DLC,/ThirdWay/DINO/"New Democrat"/TrojanHorse buddies.

It's getting so old to the point where it is bizarre.

The sorority-girl first responders are, once again, on the scene with their brilliant analysis:

"OMG Becky. They're like saying like Hillary is all evil and stuff. It's like, so awful"

Then Becky responds (and always with smilies), "LOL!!!!! Good one!!!!!!

You might learn something from some of them, but I realize that's unimportant.

It's so terrible

You speak for yourself. Not everyone

I've yet to see she draw
10,000 people to hear her speak!

She barely fills the modest venues
she speak in...
I guess her minions can't be bothered
to actually go listen to her?
They are content to stay home
and reply to telephone surveys?

LOL, yeah she's *winning*

I know Hillary supporters mock and laugh at online polls, the most easily accessible of all polls, and say they're unscientific but...

where are the Hillary supporters at? you guys can't vote in online polls or something? lol

a well organized, vocal minority of supporters.

Even here the only make up 9%
of the membership.

Poll: If you could have Hillary Or Bernie for President, who would you pick??
Hillary 9%
Bernie 91%
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026592890

Without 3rd-Way proponents, DU
would be a very progressive community

Some even brag about the posh fundraisers and salons they attend or organize. Wealthy Moderate Republicans had to go somewhere when their party became the fascist party, I guess the Democratic party was the only game in town, so they purchased the leadership.

And endlessly troll this board when not on their own hate site.

and it is above them as some have noted. IMO Us "regular people" bother to "clickly click" because it may be the only time our voices might be heard. I find it hilarious how they mock the one avenue some have to express their views.

"The difference between us hillary supporters and you guys is that WE know that online polls are STUUPIDD and we spend our time doing better things! Harumph!"

It just takes a click guys, seriously. I can volunteer for Bernie on the phone and vote in online polls on my computer... AT THE SAME TIME GASP.

to post many different versions of the same info here though.....

they can cut and paste, click and drag and regurgitate polls all day, but to simply click on a poll vote is too much?

Nothing in this thread from your side reflects reality.

Because all Hillary supporters look at online polls and scoff at them. Surreee....

Go Hillary

#AccidentalHaiku

#FormerEnglishMajors

All kinds of issues with "it's" or "its" and, as I call them "the there's"!

Watch out now!

BTW, I agree with all the posters who've been posting that you don't sound anything at all like seabeyond. I wonder why?

doesn't make sense.

I can say whatever, and mean to say whatever, and still, doesn't make it right.

She isn't kicking any ass.

She's being carried by a complict
media and a corrupt DNC.

What is Hillary's largest turnout
to any speech for the 2016 election?
5,500???

it's an act of DESPERATION

Yes because that's exactly what's happening.

Watch her flip-flop...
She's a *moderate-progressive*

humans capable of voting.

a lot more representative than elderly citizens picking up phones and answering the polls with the only name they've heard of.

You've only got a few weeks left here.

He gets very little positive press
and he is still nipping at the
Most well known woman in
the worlds heels!

A virtually unknown Senator
is a threat to the most recognized
woman in the world! HaHa

Hillary has been virtually
campaigning since she was FLotUS.

And yet, the un-electable, fringe candidate
is MORE than challenging The Inevitable!!!

Bernie's base is wide and deep.
Hillary's is mile wide and an inch deep.

But can you admit it's been slow to get here?

Time magazine rebuffed him
as person of the year!
Despite his leading EVERY
other nominee by twice the votes!

Can you admit the MSM is marginalizing Bernie?
Or are two equal time appearances on MSNBC
supposed to balance the scales?

Hillary got a paltry 1.4% to Bernie's 10%

Like the past times he has been on?

Actually previously to Rachel ever interviewing Hillary...

In September?

People are not pissed off because tyhey enjoy it.

Life would be much more pleasant if the Democratic Party did not insist (as an entity) on serving up candidates who are so contradictory to the basic liberal/progressive beliefs, values and goals of many of us.

In the 90's, I would have loved to have been able to kick back and succumbed to Bill Clinton's charm and eloquence, and pseudo liberal eloquence.

It would have been sop nice to unabashedly been able to support him....The problem was her kept doing this shit that was conservative and oriented to screwing average people to benefit Big Business and Big Banks.

Covered by almost all media outlets, check Google it's not hard.

It's clearly needed.

See how many Hillary supporters came in here, unable to refute your claims?

They only mock because they stand to make themselves look foolish if they tried to debate honest truths.

So you keep spreading truths, and I will as well.

"Hillary, will you expand social security?"

"I will.. (careful pause, thinking about it...) ENHANCE social security."

excellent way of saying "No." without saying "No." Hillary! what an excellent politician! lol

Seriously, why bother? I've read Cosmic Kitten's posts for quite awhile now. And like most of us here, we're NOT going to change anyone's minds and the undecideds are like avoiding the mire that is GDP in general.

NOTHING anyone can say will change Cosmic Kitten's mind about anything regarding HRC. And same can be said for many in their views about Bernie.

So complaining or "pointing out" that nobody refutes it is just as pointless.

Because this is one of the few places where it's 9% to 91%.

mongers hang out. So wearying.

and internet trolls have worn down your resolve.

there are, actually people open to reason. I would actually LOVE to hear someone actually explain these things about Hillary. It would ease my tension in voting for her if I ever have to.

So even if I'm well seated in Bernie's camp, it doesn't mean I wouldn't want to hear why Hillary ISNT so bad.

But I'd certainly like to hear a rebuttal that at least acknowledges her flaws as the facts they are instead of saying things like.

Nuh uh.

or

LOL

Seriously, you may not change some peoples minds, but you could at least ease concerns.

Part of the FIDO generation

I have no faith in online mobs of people, especially in niche areas. Far too much experience in that across a whole host of subjects over the years.

There are people open to reason. Very few of them are going to be here. And topics like this from those that have absolutely NO interest in discussion are not worth talking to about it is what I'm saying.

And there's no easing of concerns either. That's just a gentler, kinder, version of what you said in your first post about it all. NOTHING will ease someone like Cosmic Kitten or many other absolutists in regards to HRC and Bernie. NOTHING. The line is not drawn in the sand for them, it's laser etched across a mountain with fortresses built along it.

People who just happen to come across this page?

I'm capable of recognizing those flaws and taking about this, but that's not what this OP was about.

When I tried to do it last night, I got told "don't forget to punch in" and then ignored by the OP when I talked about the actual issues.

It's GDP clearly, it is what it is.

You do get, those are people, too?

There is just nothing to refute considering how all over the map the claims are.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251883300

So your logic is that since there's so much to refute that it's not worth the trouble?

listened, she heard what they were saying and responded with needed policies. She does not have her feet in cement and unable to move. She is strong, knowledgeable, experienced and diplomatic.

Her "listening tour" was mocked as she spent the first few months quietly for the most part going around the country and meeting with people. Then the tone shifted from the mocking to "she doesn't listen to the everday person or interact with them."

It was a slow whiplash

Seems dimensions are leaving Sanders supporters in a state of confusion.

I disagree. You meant "we the extremely politically interested."

Really got to you, huh? But unfortunately it's true. And he won't win because of it (and other issues).

She doesn't really have to do anything and so she isn't. She's getting ready for the general where she's going to have to battle for her life.

No one is really even paying attention to this primary. Not like the circus on the other side.

Sounds like a classic case of throwing shit against the wall hoping something will stick. Laughable.
"We the electorate"??

He must not be doing so good either

She has never been a good campaigner.

She gives a pedestrian speech.

She is a poor debater.

After watching the Trump speech last night, I'm telling you, he will grind up Hillary into little pieces if the two of them ever debate. Trump is a proto-fascist at least, but he has style and presentation. I never watched him much before last night and I now see how he connects with average people. Substance won't matter in a debate with him, he'll be into his tenth round of applause before Hillary even gets out a "During my time as Secretary ..."

The counter balance and real alternative to Trumpism and/or Repuglican fanaticism is a Democratic candidate with passion, who will consistently, intelligently and wisely advocate a populist economics, an undisputed champion for working and middle class Americans -- that is not corporate elitist and political insider Hillary Clinton.

That's all she needs to say. And now that the Republican's have Donald "The Fascist Option" Trump leading the pack Hillary will be free to update her 80's Republican stances to the 21st Century Republican stances. It's all good, the average voter can't see through the charade. Oh, and don't forget the "Madam President" argument, that's sure to garner millions of votes by itself.

I notice all you got in reply is, once again, a load of snark. Apparently, her supporters don't care that HRH has no integrity. That's scary to me. If Bernie was anything like HRH, he wouldn't be getting my vote! This reminds me of the Idiot-In Chief's supporters. In their eyes, he could do no wrong. Look what THAT got us - ENDLESS WARS (with millions of innocent people dead), A COLLAPSED ECONOMY, A COLLAPSED GLOBAL ECONOMY and millions of citizens who lost their homes and life savings. Yet, the 1% gladly took OUR $12.8 TRILLION bailout money - OUR TAX DOLLARS! The 1% comes out unscathed, while the 99% loses homes and their life savings. AMAZING how that worked, right? And there's people here who want more of the same!

"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

she's kicking Bernie's ass.

.....in Arkansas AND has been married to a native of Arkansas for 40 years.

Like Bernie Sanders is another James Earl Jones or something.

I guess Sanders supporters have conceded defeat if this is the state of their "debate" on the issues!

I live in Florida. Many New Yorkers here. They've been here for decades. You can still immediately recognize their New York accent.

Does Bernie Sanders sound like he's from Brooklyn? Of course.

Just sayin

...within hours of getting there. And when I visit family in NYC, by the time I go home that night my NYC accent (which I worked hard to get rid of decades ago) had come back.

I guess the thing is that since Clinton can no longer be attacked on the issues she has to be attacked about her accent. Pity.

and sorry you got the bullshit hide for the one.

Tuesday Hillary vs Wednesday Hillary, indeed.

that really was a bullshit hide.

The obvious, painful end is near, and can't be stopped and no matter how many dimensions are hypothesized, the one we live in is pretty solid right now.

Desperate attempts to do ANYTHING are clearly hastening the inevitable by driving off anyone who might have even thought just a little bit of switching to support for Bernie.

NO ONE wants to be associated with twilight zone theories about dimensions and even fewer want to try and figure out the logic.

Almost daily deserters from DU's GDP are showing up on other sites.

In this case, the OP contributes to the "jaded" readers here who are very tired of wasting time on *pablum*. (I really don't know why bold, caps, and asterisks **** are used on DU, but what the hell, I guess I'll throw in a few just for fun.)

Ok..time for a video now??

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xv6of1_twilight-zone-3x24-cat-and-mouse_shortfilms

I guess not. Hillary's campaign is hurting her? Um... she's up 30 in polls.

Denial ain't just a river in Egypt.....

Because this kind of thrashing and open mouth wailing is cringe inducing and painful to watch.