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Historic NY

(37,454 posts)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 12:10 PM Dec 2015

Poll: Clinton holds double-digit lead over Sanders in Iowa 55% - 33% BS

Poll: Clinton holds double-digit lead over Sanders in Iowa 55% - 33% BS
The former secretary of state earned 55 percent to Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders' 33 percent.

Hillary Clinton is continuing to hold on to a significant double-digit lead over her closest challenger in Iowa, according to the results of the latest Monmouth University poll surveying likely Democratic caucus-goers, though her advantage has slipped in recent months.

The former secretary of state earned 55 percent to Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders' 33 percent, compared to 65 percent to 24 percent in the university's last poll conducted in late October. Meanwhile, former Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley picked up 6 percent this time, statistically unchanged from the 5 percent he received in the last survey.

Vis-à-vis Sanders, Clinton holds a wider advantage among women (61 percent to 27 percent) than men (47 percent to 42 percent). Sanders, however, leads Clinton 48 percent to 38 percent among likely caucus-goers under the age of 50, while Clinton holds a 63 percent-to-26 percent edge among voters over the half-century mark.

No matter their final choice, 43 percent said they would be enthusiastic and 45 percent said they would be satisfied with Clinton as the Democratic nominee, while 30 percent and 45 percent would be the same for Sanders' potential nomination.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/12/monmouth-dems-216534#ixzz3tkKFy9fL

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Poll: Clinton holds double-digit lead over Sanders in Iowa 55% - 33% BS (Original Post) Historic NY Dec 2015 OP
Enthusiasm gap firebrand80 Dec 2015 #1
So a quarter of Clinton's supporters are unenthusiastic and only 10% of Sanders supporters feel that Attorney in Texas Dec 2015 #16
Wow. A 22 point lead over Bernie Sanders - in not-so-diverse Iowa of all places! BlueCaliDem Dec 2015 #2
Ummmm in that poll she's lost 20% or so since October Fearless Dec 2015 #3
There using a diffrent methodology... AngryParakeet Dec 2015 #4
Likely voters meaning those most apt to showup. Historic NY Dec 2015 #6
They also ran the numbers two two larger turnout scenarios... brooklynite Dec 2015 #7
K&R Awesome! lunamagica Dec 2015 #5
Double digit lead is NO small lead it's a large jump to overcome FloridaBlues Dec 2015 #8
K AND R! JaneyVee Dec 2015 #9
"Sanders leads Clinton 48 percent to 38 percent among likely caucus-goers under the age of 50" DCBob Dec 2015 #10
This particular poll is 69% people over 50 years of age Lans Dec 2015 #11
Sanders actually has the advantage among likely caucusgoers who are under 50 years old (48% to 38%) Attorney in Texas Dec 2015 #15
Yes, I agree. DCBob Dec 2015 #20
Great news!! Thank you for posting. K&R nt Persondem Dec 2015 #12
Double digit lead! workinclasszero Dec 2015 #13
In just 6 weeks, Clinton's Iowa support drops 10% and Sanders' Iowa support rises 9%!!! Attorney in Texas Dec 2015 #14
... SidDithers Dec 2015 #17
problem is that the general caucus age makeup is about 50% above 50 and 50% below 50 years old... yawnmaster Dec 2015 #18
Iowa is looking good for Hillary - Thanks. Alfresco Dec 2015 #19
Bernie won't be able to catch up. (Good!) NurseJackie Dec 2015 #21
I hope you won't be too disappointed, if the opposite should happen. Below is a link Cal33 Dec 2015 #23
LOL! (Already debunked.) NurseJackie Dec 2015 #25
Maybe you should read this link below, and ask yourself if the methods of taking this poll Cal33 Dec 2015 #22
As a Sanders supporter who often criticizes Sanders supporters, a word to the wise onenote Dec 2015 #24
The Republican caucus 2012 polling was very tight. DCBob Dec 2015 #27
Santorum finished more than 8 points higher than his highest average poll result onenote Dec 2015 #28
There was no clear front runner. DCBob Dec 2015 #29
This Citizen Cares Less About Polls - This Citizen Will Vote For Sanders cantbeserious Dec 2015 #26
Kick & highly recommended! William769 Dec 2015 #30
NOT GOOD ENOUGH!!! JaneyVee Dec 2015 #31

firebrand80

(2,760 posts)
1. Enthusiasm gap
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 12:12 PM
Dec 2015
No matter their final choice, 43 percent said they would be enthusiastic and 45 percent said they would be satisfied with Clinton as the Democratic nominee, while 30 percent and 45 percent would be the same for Sanders' potential nomination.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
2. Wow. A 22 point lead over Bernie Sanders - in not-so-diverse Iowa of all places!
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 12:18 PM
Dec 2015

This is pretty significant, although Sanders is still doing pretty well in the polls. He hasn't been dropping and remains steady at 30%, which is pretty significant, too.

Either way, we have two strong candidates and I couldn't be happier!

AngryParakeet

(35 posts)
4. There using a diffrent methodology...
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 12:38 PM
Dec 2015

Monmouth got alot of heat for last month's poll, and rightly so, because they only used past primary voters. This month they used voters who voted in at least one of the past two primary elections, in both the 2012 and 2014 general elections or who have registered to vote in the past year. Its not surprising her numbers went down.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
10. "Sanders leads Clinton 48 percent to 38 percent among likely caucus-goers under the age of 50"
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 01:20 PM
Dec 2015

We Hillary supporters have to admit Bernie is connecting with young voters. She will still win but its something the Hillary team needs to keep in mind.

Lans

(66 posts)
11. This particular poll is 69% people over 50 years of age
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 01:37 PM
Dec 2015

I don't think that's very representative of what the actual reality of the situation is.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
20. Yes, I agree.
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 04:39 PM
Dec 2015

It's also reality that Hillary is not connecting as well with younger voters as Bernie. It wont matter in the end but its an issue.

Attorney in Texas

(3,373 posts)
14. In just 6 weeks, Clinton's Iowa support drops 10% and Sanders' Iowa support rises 9%!!!
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 01:54 PM
Dec 2015
Monmouth University's last poll 6 weeks ago showed Clinton up 41%, with her polling at 65% and Sanders polling at 24%.

Today's Monmouth University poll shows Clinton's lead cut in half, with her now polling at 55% and Sanders rising to 33%.

KEY FINDING FROM TODAY's POLL: "Sanders actually has the advantage among likely caucusgoers who are under 50 years old (48% to 38% for Clinton)."

yawnmaster

(2,812 posts)
18. problem is that the general caucus age makeup is about 50% above 50 and 50% below 50 years old...
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 02:37 PM
Dec 2015

and those 50 and older go 63% to 26% clinton
50 and under 48% to 38% sanders

together that means 50% to 37% with clinton the winner

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
21. Bernie won't be able to catch up. (Good!)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 07:46 PM
Dec 2015

This thing will be over before the end of March, and Hillary will be our party's nominee.

 

Cal33

(7,018 posts)
23. I hope you won't be too disappointed, if the opposite should happen. Below is a link
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 08:12 PM
Dec 2015

explaining how the Western Illinois University makes its predictions. Since 1975 the
Univ. has made its predictions of who the next president would be, and they have
never been wrong. The accuracy has been 100% so far. (Of course, there is always
the possibility of a "first time" happening here). Just read below how thorough their
methods are.

West. Ill. Univ. has predicted a landslide victory for Sanders in 2016.

http://www.nbcchicago.com/blogs/ward-room/Western-Illinois-University-Predicts-Bernie-Sanders-Victory-in-2016-346130992.html

 

Cal33

(7,018 posts)
22. Maybe you should read this link below, and ask yourself if the methods of taking this poll
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 07:54 PM
Dec 2015

are pretty much the same as the ones described in the link:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=884726

onenote

(42,782 posts)
24. As a Sanders supporter who often criticizes Sanders supporters, a word to the wise
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 09:04 PM
Dec 2015

I get dumped on because I'm actually harder on my fellow Sanders supporters than I am on Clinton supporters. And its true that I've pointed out that the fact Obama came back from a big deficit in Iowa doesn't prove anything about how Bernie will do.

But I've also said it before and I'll say it again (as someone who will not hesitate to support Clinton if she does get the nomination) -- her supporters here ought to stop spiking the football before the kick off has taken place.

Polls are always a crapshoot this far out from an election. And in Iowa polls have proven decidedly unreliable in the past, even shortly before the caucuses. In 2012, on the repub side, Santorum eked out a narrow victory even though he scored no better than third place in any pre-caucus poll.

The reason is that the Iowa caucuses are particularly dependent on a candidate's ground game. I have no doubt that Clinton has a good ground game. I also think that Sanders' ground game, which focuses heavily on the college towns in Iowa is better than the polls suggest. I've been involved in more than a couple of elections and the surprising thing is that even the campaigns typically don't really know how well their GOTV operations are working until election day.

So while I won't be surprised if Clinton takes Iowa, I also won't be surprised if it's a lot closer than the polls are suggesting and as long as the Clinton supporters set the bar where they're setting it, the perception will not be so great for Clinton going forward.

Buckle up, this rodeo is just starting.

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