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Poll: Clinton holds double-digit lead over Sanders in Iowa 55% - 33% BS
The former secretary of state earned 55 percent to Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders' 33 percent.
Hillary Clinton is continuing to hold on to a significant double-digit lead over her closest challenger in Iowa, according to the results of the latest Monmouth University poll surveying likely Democratic caucus-goers, though her advantage has slipped in recent months.
The former secretary of state earned 55 percent to Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders' 33 percent, compared to 65 percent to 24 percent in the university's last poll conducted in late October. Meanwhile, former Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley picked up 6 percent this time, statistically unchanged from the 5 percent he received in the last survey.
Vis-à-vis Sanders, Clinton holds a wider advantage among women (61 percent to 27 percent) than men (47 percent to 42 percent). Sanders, however, leads Clinton 48 percent to 38 percent among likely caucus-goers under the age of 50, while Clinton holds a 63 percent-to-26 percent edge among voters over the half-century mark.
No matter their final choice, 43 percent said they would be enthusiastic and 45 percent said they would be satisfied with Clinton as the Democratic nominee, while 30 percent and 45 percent would be the same for Sanders' potential nomination.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/12/monmouth-dems-216534#ixzz3tkKFy9fL
firebrand80
(2,760 posts)No matter their final choice, 43 percent said they would be enthusiastic and 45 percent said they would be satisfied with Clinton as the Democratic nominee, while 30 percent and 45 percent would be the same for Sanders' potential nomination.
Attorney in Texas
(3,373 posts)way!
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)This is pretty significant, although Sanders is still doing pretty well in the polls. He hasn't been dropping and remains steady at 30%, which is pretty significant, too.
Either way, we have two strong candidates and I couldn't be happier!
Fearless
(18,421 posts)So yeahhhh... Have fun with that poll.
AngryParakeet
(35 posts)Monmouth got alot of heat for last month's poll, and rightly so, because they only used past primary voters. This month they used voters who voted in at least one of the past two primary elections, in both the 2012 and 2014 general elections or who have registered to vote in the past year. Its not surprising her numbers went down.
Historic NY
(37,454 posts)brooklynite
(94,792 posts)...Clinton won in both.
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)Great numbers for Hillary!
FloridaBlues
(4,009 posts)JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)DCBob
(24,689 posts)We Hillary supporters have to admit Bernie is connecting with young voters. She will still win but its something the Hillary team needs to keep in mind.
Lans
(66 posts)I don't think that's very representative of what the actual reality of the situation is.
Attorney in Texas
(3,373 posts)It's also reality that Hillary is not connecting as well with younger voters as Bernie. It wont matter in the end but its an issue.
Persondem
(1,936 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Iowa is gonna be sooo sweet for Hillary!
Attorney in Texas
(3,373 posts)Today's Monmouth University poll shows Clinton's lead cut in half, with her now polling at 55% and Sanders rising to 33%.
KEY FINDING FROM TODAY's POLL: "Sanders actually has the advantage among likely caucusgoers who are under 50 years old (48% to 38% for Clinton)."
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
yawnmaster
(2,812 posts)and those 50 and older go 63% to 26% clinton
50 and under 48% to 38% sanders
together that means 50% to 37% with clinton the winner
Alfresco
(1,698 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)This thing will be over before the end of March, and Hillary will be our party's nominee.
Cal33
(7,018 posts)explaining how the Western Illinois University makes its predictions. Since 1975 the
Univ. has made its predictions of who the next president would be, and they have
never been wrong. The accuracy has been 100% so far. (Of course, there is always
the possibility of a "first time" happening here). Just read below how thorough their
methods are.
West. Ill. Univ. has predicted a landslide victory for Sanders in 2016.
http://www.nbcchicago.com/blogs/ward-room/Western-Illinois-University-Predicts-Bernie-Sanders-Victory-in-2016-346130992.html
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Cal33
(7,018 posts)are pretty much the same as the ones described in the link:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=884726
onenote
(42,782 posts)I get dumped on because I'm actually harder on my fellow Sanders supporters than I am on Clinton supporters. And its true that I've pointed out that the fact Obama came back from a big deficit in Iowa doesn't prove anything about how Bernie will do.
But I've also said it before and I'll say it again (as someone who will not hesitate to support Clinton if she does get the nomination) -- her supporters here ought to stop spiking the football before the kick off has taken place.
Polls are always a crapshoot this far out from an election. And in Iowa polls have proven decidedly unreliable in the past, even shortly before the caucuses. In 2012, on the repub side, Santorum eked out a narrow victory even though he scored no better than third place in any pre-caucus poll.
The reason is that the Iowa caucuses are particularly dependent on a candidate's ground game. I have no doubt that Clinton has a good ground game. I also think that Sanders' ground game, which focuses heavily on the college towns in Iowa is better than the polls suggest. I've been involved in more than a couple of elections and the surprising thing is that even the campaigns typically don't really know how well their GOTV operations are working until election day.
So while I won't be surprised if Clinton takes Iowa, I also won't be surprised if it's a lot closer than the polls are suggesting and as long as the Clinton supporters set the bar where they're setting it, the perception will not be so great for Clinton going forward.
Buckle up, this rodeo is just starting.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)Not a valid comparison.
onenote
(42,782 posts)And 20 points higher than some polls had him at the end of November.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/ia/iowa_republican_presidential_primary-1588.html#polls
DCBob
(24,689 posts)Apples and oranges.
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom