away from Hillary and that isn't going to happen.

Things are pretty much the way they will be for the rest of the primary.

You know damn well there will be questions about ISIS in the next debate and Bernie won't talk about it.

That is nice for his supporters but it won't buy him any more support.

A president has to deal with domestic and foreign policy simultaneously

But the media wants to talk about nothing but ISIS. Ironically, he gets lambasted for talking about anything *but* ISIS even when he's at events specifically for another issue. Go figure.

You say the more people know him the more they will join him or something to that effect.

Well he just showed a lot of people that he gets angry if they ask him about foreign policy.

He did not help his campaign today. We aren't talking about where he was just what he did after.

He got angry because the question distracted from the issues of the AA community, which he was there to listen to and promote. There are other times to talk about ISIS and foreign policy that aren't at a press conference specifically dedicated to the needs of African Americans and inner city residents.

It is the other way around.

And it's a good thing he did. There have been and will be plenty of opportunities to talk about ISIS and foreign policy. A press conference about the needs of the AA community is not one of them.

Some have criticized Hillary Clinton for not being as warm and engaging as her husband was when he campaigned. That might be true, but she's leagues ahead of Bernie Sanders, who pretty much wants to stick to the issues and let voters decide on that basis. If it were a contest of issues, Sanders would generate some interest among black voters, particularly with his opposition to the death penalty, an artifact of institutionalized racism that doesn't just harm black people, but kills them outright. But part of being a successful politician is making connections with people, making them believe you understand them and their desires, convincing them they can trust you. Clinton is far more tuned into minority voters when it comes to such things, and Sanders can't do it. He can't even fake it convincingly, although he may not want to.

it does not help Hillary. First, we don't want a politician, we want someone who will tell us the truth. Hillary can't or won't do that. We are grown ups, we can handle the truth. Second, Hillary's unlikeability is high, not just 'don't like her' high, but 'don't trust her' high.

Sanders is only being known in South Carolina now. Let's see what shakes out, after they do know him.

Z

All of us say that, so I guess "we" is "us," meaning every voter. We say we're tired of politicians, special interests, pandering, etc. but we keep supporting the candidates provided by the two major parties. Maybe we figure we're better off sticking with what we know, rather than venturing into uncharted territory.

This planet for example, how many take steps to actually help it survive? People still complain about recycling. I go out of my way to recycle everything possible. I drive only when I absolutely have to, and then I plan other trips around it, so my vehicle sits for 6 days out of 7. I mend clothes, I buy used things, I take apart sweaters to make new warm things, I compost, I use blank sides of junk mail to print out recipes that I am trying out and I apparently have quite low utility bills, comparing to others I know.

This is just one of the uncomfortable things that I'm doing. I'm also venturing into uncharted territory with Bernie, because sticking with what we know hasn't been working.

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

Albert Einstein


Z

The OP is talking about HRC, who is known, liked, and trusted (as much as a political figure can be trusted) among the African -American electorate.

Further, the "they just don't know who Bernie is" is getting pretty stale.

"the African American electorate"?

What part of your own post don't you understand?

What happened among c the Black electorate.

What part of doing super awesome in the polls to losing by a super huge margin among the African American electorate do I not understand?

Hey I don't blame them. I was a huge supporter of Obama here on DU at the time. It was a godsend for the party when Hillary lost the nomination.

I fervently supported Obama then, gave money to him, stood in a mile long line just to get in to a stadium to see him speak, and voted for him three times. It was amazing to watch him win.

So yeah, those were good times.

But perhaps it was just disaster deferred now that Clinton is back for more?

Even so, the underlying point is if Clinton is so loved as it is implied here, why did she get so badly abandoned so damn quickly?

Her support may be wide but it is not very deep.

Bernie is no Obama, and won't see the massive shift in African American support that Obama saw during that primary.

Sid

If people choose it, fine. If they choose Clinton or Trump instead, that's democracy.

Tell me if this looks like a man struggling. Bernie today in Baltimore.

Rosa Parks in his logo. Would that mean he's locked it up like Hillary.

Dropout Wednesday.

Sid

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I don't think it will make him a more viable candidate to black voters, but I think it will get him some desperately needed media and respect in the black community, a community PAST sick and tired of hearing about how he marched with MLK.

But as usual, the DU screaming over this is so incredibly stupid. The idea that he's being criticized for "standing up for black people" is probably one of the fucking phoniest, stupidest things I've ever seen here and that is TRULY saying something. I watched the video. He was walking off the stage and was presumably done speaking full stop before the question about Isis was even asked. It wasn't as though he was interrupted speaking about issues of relevance to black folks and asked about Isis. I will never understand some people's desperate need to flat out distort and exaggerate everything this man does as it relates to black people. I will never get it. And his use of the phrase "Third World" could be problematic as well.

But I think his annoyance will play out well in AA communities who feel the same annoyance that Isis gets so much play when people need to be talking about jobs.