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UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 10:04 PM Dec 2015

Bernie Sanders has shown us today his will to take control

of a situation by not letting others like the media dictate what the purpose of his press conference would be. He was in Baltimore for a reason and he stuck to it. He proved once again he is a leader and will carry out the task at hand. It truly takes guts in this day and age.


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Bernie Sanders has shown us today his will to take control (Original Post) UglyGreed Dec 2015 OP
And ignore international terrorism. RandySF Dec 2015 #1
Another lie from the Hillary brigade. n/t ljm2002 Dec 2015 #3
They have exposed themselves as shameless partisan hacks. Vattel Dec 2015 #50
Neocon panic! AgingAmerican Dec 2015 #35
Pure unadultrated bullshit. 99Forever Dec 2015 #49
we have the shit media ibegurpard Dec 2015 #52
Yeah ok. JaneyVee Dec 2015 #2
This doesn't even make sense. artislife Dec 2015 #41
fricken A. nt restorefreedom Dec 2015 #4
Really? You can't see how that was a big negative. MeNMyVolt Dec 2015 #5
LOL nt. Snotcicles Dec 2015 #9
I understand how Hillary supporters REALLY WANT this to be a "big negative" Maedhros Dec 2015 #12
yeah, and it is nice to know that the "nuclear option" with Iran is off the table. virtualobserver Dec 2015 #28
The public knows the media is part of the problem. Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #18
+1 daleanime Dec 2015 #19
He didn't kiss their ass...How horrible Armstead Dec 2015 #39
You are adorable. artislife Dec 2015 #42
It does. LWolf Dec 2015 #6
^^^This^^^ dflprincess Dec 2015 #13
Hell yes! Not Sure Dec 2015 #22
Exactly -- That's how Bushco managed to bamboozle the nation for so many years Armstead Dec 2015 #40
Yes, and it's LWolf Dec 2015 #47
That is some awesome spin on it MaggieD Dec 2015 #7
Except that he doesn't try to avoid it. Fawke Em Dec 2015 #20
The spin is on the Media UglyGreed Dec 2015 #25
Says the supporter of a person who laughs at inappropriate times. nt artislife Dec 2015 #43
Take control of an out of control campaign? Renew Deal Dec 2015 #8
LOL, not even a blip. nt Snotcicles Dec 2015 #10
*cough cough* TM99 Dec 2015 #38
Face it. moobu2 Dec 2015 #11
Look what happened to Hillary at the UglyGreed Dec 2015 #24
lol you hit the nail on the head with one word "manipulating" watched that from the Hillary side for azurnoir Dec 2015 #26
Oh, the McCain attack line. earthside Dec 2015 #27
I love the fraying... artislife Dec 2015 #44
K&R nt Live and Learn Dec 2015 #14
Well, that's one way to spin it. leftofcool Dec 2015 #15
HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Dec 2015 #16
Give 'em hell, Bernie!! AzDar Dec 2015 #17
Especially since the Corporate Owned MSM talking heads derive great pleasure from taking down in_cog_ni_to Dec 2015 #21
K/R Jack Rabbit Dec 2015 #23
He's shown, for the second time, how to run and hide. RandySF Dec 2015 #29
No he has shown that UglyGreed Dec 2015 #30
Exactly! peacebird Dec 2015 #31
Thread winner!!! TIME TO PANIC Dec 2015 #36
BINGO. kath Dec 2015 #48
He made the story about the media and ISIL. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #32
Maybe you were diverted artislife Dec 2015 #45
No firebrand80 Dec 2015 #33
Bernie UglyGreed Dec 2015 #34
I don't think he was wrong for trying to stay on message firebrand80 Dec 2015 #37
Kick! - eom fleur-de-lisa Dec 2015 #46
His issues are about the Average American and Not "Terra, Terra, Terra" Distraction KoKo Dec 2015 #51
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #53

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
49. Pure unadultrated bullshit.
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 09:33 PM
Dec 2015

Can you Hillary people EVER be honest?

Doesn't seem to be in your wheelhouse.

And you think you are going to convince people to vote your way?

Damn, that's fucking incredible.

ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
52. we have the shit media
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 02:08 AM
Dec 2015

To stoke the fear of the public on that out of proportion to the danger actually faced by the majority of the public. Just what the terrorists want to see happen.

 

MeNMyVolt

(1,095 posts)
5. Really? You can't see how that was a big negative.
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 10:13 PM
Dec 2015

They (the "media&quot will kill him with this from now on. Rather large fuck up.

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
12. I understand how Hillary supporters REALLY WANT this to be a "big negative"
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 10:53 PM
Dec 2015

but it really isn't. He may have invited some criticism from the jingoistic warmonger demographic, but I think the residents of Baltimore will respect him. Also, the AA vote is more important than the jingoistic warmonger vote.

 

virtualobserver

(8,760 posts)
28. yeah, and it is nice to know that the "nuclear option" with Iran is off the table.
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 11:06 AM
Dec 2015

Lucky for Hillary she had a "careful listener" within earshot.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
6. It does.
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 10:14 PM
Dec 2015

We watched the nation, and congressional Democrats, cave in to the continuous drums of "terror," thus giving a helping hand to the illegitimate Bush administration back in 2001.

I didn't follow the nation down that rabbit hole then, and I'm not doing it now.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
47. Yes, and it's
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 09:00 PM
Dec 2015

especially insulting for anyone to assume that we're supposed to fall into that trap again.

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
7. That is some awesome spin on it
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 10:17 PM
Dec 2015

But I don't think it will work. I think you're all taking this way too seriously anyway. It's not like people didn't know he tries to avoid FP stuff before this.

You're only real problem is his temperament. That wasn't good.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
20. Except that he doesn't try to avoid it.
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 12:09 AM
Dec 2015

Take a pick:

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=bernie+sanders+foreign+policy

And, his temperament was fine.

No one who isn't biased can see he acted like he always does in that video. He is a bit gruff. That's simply his demeanor. He acted no differently than he usually does.

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
38. *cough cough*
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 11:56 AM
Dec 2015
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026775414

Seems Clinton supporters didn't have a problem with Hillary controlling the press and limiting it to NO questions whatsoever. Obviously she doesn't always answer questions no matter what.

But you see, that is shrewdness, that is presidential behavior, that is....oh fuck, it is just a double standard from the usual folks who love to find anything they can to yammer on about with Sanders and his campaign.

First it is not good enough Sanders with PoC and now when he says, let's focus on PoC in this country for a moment instead of ISIL yet again today, its is not good enough Sanders.

If it wasn't so fucking ridiculous, it would be quite funny!

moobu2

(4,822 posts)
11. Face it.
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 10:30 PM
Dec 2015

Bernie Sanders just doesn't perform as well when he's not manipulating large crowds. Just wait till the next debate. I bet her drops 5 points in the polls overnight again.

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
24. Look what happened to Hillary at the
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 10:50 AM
Dec 2015

last debate. She said she was picked on by O'Malley and Bernie and had to use the 9/11 card to divert attention! The other day she needed Supreme Court Justice Breyer to correct her freudian slip about nuking Iran.......

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
26. lol you hit the nail on the head with one word "manipulating" watched that from the Hillary side for
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 10:59 AM
Dec 2015

attempting to manipulate the flavor of the week into votes, never met a tragedy that couldn't be exploited, it's a shallow cynical approach that hopefully the public has caught on too, I know I did long ago

BTW how are things going with #Black Lives Matter, these days?

earthside

(6,960 posts)
27. Oh, the McCain attack line.
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 11:04 AM
Dec 2015

Remember, that was the big attack line from the Repuglicans and McCain in 2008 directed towards Barack Obama.

More or less the same thing ... "doesn't perform as well when he's not manipulating large crowds."

One thing about the Hillarians, they have no problem picking up Repuglican attacks and positions -- they are in full neocon dress over Sen. Sanders visit to Baltimore yesterday.

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
21. Especially since the Corporate Owned MSM talking heads derive great pleasure from taking down
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 12:15 AM
Dec 2015

politicians THEY don't want to be president or their Corporate Owners don't want elected. Piss off the Corporate Owned MSM, they will try their best to take you down.

Luckily, Bernie has THE INTERNET. The MSM is powerless against it.

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
30. No he has shown that
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 11:10 AM
Dec 2015

he will stand up to the profit driven media and will not be bullied by fear and propaganda. How many Americans have died due to poverty or lack of healthcare???? Much much more than ISIS.............

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
32. He made the story about the media and ISIL.
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 11:17 AM
Dec 2015

The exact opposite of what he wanted and the opposite of what anyone could describe as "control." He really took away from the issue he cares about most by doing what he did. Please read that sentence before going off half cocked. In the end the story is about him. Anyone could have told you that's what would have happened if he did what he did. Common sense.

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
45. Maybe you were diverted
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 12:07 PM
Dec 2015

But the people he came to see and learn from, probably liked that he wasn't taken off track.

Or does that matter?

firebrand80

(2,760 posts)
33. No
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 11:23 AM
Dec 2015

The media is always going to ask questions that are off message for you. It happens to Presidents all the time. How many time do you see the President sitting in some photo op/press conference with a foreign leader, and the media is asking him questions that has nothing to do with the meeting that just happened?

If Bernie wants to stay on message, all he had to do was take the question and spin it back to what he wants to talk about. Pretty simple, happens all the time. Asking the media ahead of time not to ask about a certain issue guaranteed that the someone was going to ask about that issue. No self-respecting journalist allows themselves to be told what they can and cannot ask.

It was all a bit amateurish by the Bernie camp.

For the record, I think this is all less than a blip on the radar. It's a big deal on places like DU, and pretty much nowhere else. No one is changing their vote based on this, so I wish we could just put it to bed.

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
34. Bernie
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 11:29 AM
Dec 2015

was asked to visit Baltimore for a reason. We were not under an immediate threat so Bernie did the right thing by respecting the wishes of the people of Baltimore. You people act like he was reading a book or something.

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firebrand80

(2,760 posts)
37. I don't think he was wrong for trying to stay on message
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 11:52 AM
Dec 2015

It just seems to me he went about it the wrong way. He ended up blowing the "avoiding isis" thing up into a way bigger issue than it had to be.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
51. His issues are about the Average American and Not "Terra, Terra, Terra" Distraction
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 10:06 PM
Dec 2015

which Every Election now seems to focus on as a distraction from the needs of the Average American in favor of the "War Machine."

Bernie is fighting for "THE PEOPLE" who are sick and tired of paying for Bank Bailouts for Wall Street, Declining Wages, Poverty, Militarization of our Police against the Poor and Defenseless in our Society, the War Against Womens' Rights to Health Care and Birth Control and the Constant RW Stirring up of Lies that Keep All Americans Pitted against Each Other over Religion, Race, Gender and rights to Privacy.

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