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2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHillary Clinton’s Toughness- Thomas B. Edsall
Thomas B. EdsallWhen voters look at equally experienced male and female politicians, the man will still be seen as more capable on issues of national security and defense, Meredith Conroy, a professor of political science at California State University, San Bernardino, wrote me in response to my inquiry about the current election. But Hillary is able to overcome this and other gender stereotypes. She turns much of the scholarship on voter perceptions of Democratic candidates, and furthermore female politicians, on its head.
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Peter Hart and Anna Bennett, both Democratic pollsters working with Annenberg, asked participants to consider Jeb Bush, Donald Trump, Ben Carson and Clinton, and to give their opinion of the candidates: What material is their backbone made of? The focus group sessions were transcribed.
According to the transcript, the 12 women and 12 men a mix of Democrats, Republicans and independents variously described their impression of Bushs spine as made of marshmallow, styrofoam, Jell-O, play dough, pillow, papier-mâché and chalk.
In contrast, participants described Hillary Clintons backbone as made of titanium, steel, ice and cement.
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Hart asked the 12 male participants to first consider the wide scope of responsibilities from foreign policy to the economy a president faces and to then indicate with a show of hands who can do the job?
How many people say, yeah, I think Donald Trump could do the job? Hart asked. Six raised their hands. For Bush, six also raised their hands. For Carson, it was three.
How many say Hillary Clinton could do the job? Hart asked. Eleven out of 12.
Some of the comments made during the focus group sessions indicated that the Benghazi Committee created by House Republicans in May 2014 to damage Clintons presidential prospects had backfired. Referring in part to Clintons performance during an 11 hour interrogation by the committee, a participant identified as Thomas noted:
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/09/opinion/campaign-stops/hillary-clintons-toughness.html
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Peter Hart and Anna Bennett, both Democratic pollsters working with Annenberg, asked participants to consider Jeb Bush, Donald Trump, Ben Carson and Clinton, and to give their opinion of the candidates: What material is their backbone made of? The focus group sessions were transcribed.
According to the transcript, the 12 women and 12 men a mix of Democrats, Republicans and independents variously described their impression of Bushs spine as made of marshmallow, styrofoam, Jell-O, play dough, pillow, papier-mâché and chalk.
In contrast, participants described Hillary Clintons backbone as made of titanium, steel, ice and cement.
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Hart asked the 12 male participants to first consider the wide scope of responsibilities from foreign policy to the economy a president faces and to then indicate with a show of hands who can do the job?
How many people say, yeah, I think Donald Trump could do the job? Hart asked. Six raised their hands. For Bush, six also raised their hands. For Carson, it was three.
How many say Hillary Clinton could do the job? Hart asked. Eleven out of 12.
Some of the comments made during the focus group sessions indicated that the Benghazi Committee created by House Republicans in May 2014 to damage Clintons presidential prospects had backfired. Referring in part to Clintons performance during an 11 hour interrogation by the committee, a participant identified as Thomas noted:
Her ability to walk through what shes had thrown at her just in the last six months should give you an idea that the woman has definitely got some strength. Shes there. I dont necessarily agree with where shes coming from, but still, you cannot knock what that woman is like.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/09/opinion/campaign-stops/hillary-clintons-toughness.html
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Hillary Clinton’s Toughness- Thomas B. Edsall (Original Post)
DemocratSinceBirth
Dec 2015
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ismnotwasm
(42,004 posts)1. K&R
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,711 posts)2. There is a great quote I didn't cite.
I look forward to the day when most of the really cool descriptors for toughness aren't word plays on male genitalia.
quickesst
(6,281 posts)3. Hillary "Titanium" Clinton......
.....2016 K&R
firebrand80
(2,760 posts)4. Can't wait for the GE
Hillary isn't being seriously challenged right now. Last time around, she showed how good she was when had to come out swinging.
The Benghazi hearings were just a preview, she's going to eat the GOP for lunch.
comradebillyboy
(10,174 posts)5. Hillary is as tough as nails
She won't wilt in a crisis. At the Benghazi hearings she looked like the lion beset by a pack of yapping lap dogs. She exudes gravitas, dignity and strength. God, I love that woman.
MaggieD
(7,393 posts)6. She is probably the most qualified person...
To run for president in my lifetime. Bonus that she is a woman and gives us a chance to make history as we elect her.
Godhumor
(6,437 posts)7. Was just on my way to post this
Even those who dislike her admit that she takes no shit from anybody.
Dawgs
(14,755 posts)8. I'm more concerned about her judgement. n/t
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)9. K AND R!