2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumSenator Sanders on Income and Wealth Inequality
A message from Senator Sanders,
"This is not a time to think small. What is required in this moment is a political revolution that takes back our democracy from establishment politicians and the billionaire class. But that can only happen if we stand together. If we do, we will win. If we are divided, the big money interests win."
This is a class war and all Democrats should be fighting for the 99% and not the billionaires.
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)Dustlawyer
(10,497 posts)Most people cannot afford to be bored with this issue.
Another issue Bernie talks about a lot that you are probably bored with is campaign finance reform in the form of Publicly Funded Elections. Hillary would be sunk for sure without all of the legal bribes from Wall Street, Private Prison companies, Big Pharma, the MIC, and the rest of corporate America. It is tedious for you I would expect hearing about all of the favors your candidate will have to pay back should she win!
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)Posting the same issue 17,292 times does not increase my understanding. It makes me yawn instead.
My job is irrelevant.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)I'd say too much repetition is better than continued avoidance of it.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)are really not interested. You'll have to forgive me attempting to draw a discussion out of the Conservative Wing of our Party.
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)I'm left-center .... I'm not just wayyy too far yonder to the left and I appreciate you not liking me for that
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)As I see it:
We have the left (wacko left) that wants a fair shake for the 99%. Reduce poverty, save SS and Medicare. End the continuous war and reduce the defense budget. Roll back the Patriot Act and stop domestic spying. Take a hard line on no torture. Fix our infrastructure. Make the Wealthy pay their share.
Then we have your left-center, Conservative Dems, the Third Way, DLC, that are ok with the status quo and big money in politics, the unConstitutional Patriot Act, huuuge defense budget, job killing Trade Agreements, 16,000,000 children living in poverty, the highest infant mortality of all modern countries, an infrastructure that is crumbling around us. That supports American Exceptionalism and "spreading Democracy" around the world with force.
And then you have the Republicons.
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)We just want attainable goals without wrecking the economy and without talk of a revolution.
Revolutions can happen without them being called revolutions at the time.
In the end, we are all on the same side and don't let the impulses to divide us take over your soul.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Maybe some of the social justice goals, but even those she is "evolving" on. I think she would try to fix some social justice issues but not to the extent that it will cost her friends in the 1% a dime. In fact her billionaire backers are expecting some quid pro quo which will cost the 99%.
At some point we need to stick up for the 16,000,000 American children living in poverty and another 16 million living in low income homes. The richer the 1% gets the poor the 99% gets.
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)very few issues. All I am asking is for you to show me some issues where they agree or even come close.
None of the following:
The legalization of marijuana even for medical purposes
Job killer trade agreements
the Patriot Act
Domestic Spying
Drone killing
Our stand on Iran
Most foreign policy
Helping college students swamped by debt plus tuition free college.
Fixing our infrastructure
environmental issues like fracking, drilling in the arctic and pipelines across America
For Profit Prisons
Breaking up the banks
Taxing the 1%
Raising the SS cap
Medicare for all
A new Glass-Steigall
GMO labeling
Same sex marriage (she is evolving on this)
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)nc4bo
(17,651 posts)I half expect to hear the ole pull-oneself-up-by-one's-bootstraps crap.
There are already a few who are insinuating it.
Know them by their works.....
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)Broward
(1,976 posts)"I am constantly struck by the level of enthusiasm to do something about the rising levels of income inequality in this country, providing health care for all Americans, criminal justice reform, and reclaiming our democracy from a billionaire class buying candidates and elections."
-Bernie Sanders
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)the issue. Not surprised. How Democrats can turn their backs on 50,000,000 Americans living in poverty because the wealthy have looted the 99%, is beyond me.
reformist2
(9,841 posts)cosmicone
(11,014 posts)repetitiousness ad nauseum is boring.
I love pizza but if I ate it every day, it will get boring after a while.
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)of us don't, SO YES THE SAME ISSUE!!!!!
arcane1
(38,613 posts)JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)So what are his thinking big plans to fix income inequality?
Armstead
(47,803 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)50,000,000 Americans live in poverty. A president that is beholden to the billionaires isn't going to fix that.
Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel
(3,273 posts)Why don't she just use Rodham instead of Clinton... that's right , Rodham is/was a republican before she met Bill Clinton.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Do you not recognize the class war?
brooklynite
(94,679 posts)Sorry if it doesn't fit your stereotype.