I work in IT security and an unsecure server used by a top official is a big deal.

I don't care what her emails say unless they contain sensitive (notice I didn't say "top secret&quot information that some state-funded hacker now knows about and can use it to blackmail her and/or harm our country.

Someone I'm related to applied for a job, and my data was breached. Yet doesn't seem like any $$$ is being spent to resolve that hack?

It's odd that such a secure internal government server was hacked.

The OPM's HR got hacked - not the inner sanctum.

I've explained that a zillion times - even in this thread.

It's odd people don't understand that big biz, corps and gov't use LAYERS of security. She had bupkus.

And other information had some security and still got hacked.

There is no fool proof method and any IT person knows that.

in setting up this server. Nor does it excuse her going against government regulations in using an iPad for government email. She was told that Apple devices were forbidden for government work because they weren't secure enough and she used one anyways. That is at bare minimum negligence.

The iPad usage after being denied mulitple times is fact. It's in her email dump that she was denied use of the device and there are multiple emails from her talking about her iPad and with her sending emails with the sig "Sent from my iPad".

If you want to dig around and smear legitimate newspapers like the Washington Post for reporting on facts, knock yourself out. But, this will do nothing to change the facts of what Hillary did.

Some of that includes logging and monitoring, which watches for those breaches.

Hillary, again, had none of that. Shit, she didn't even have Kaspersky.

Things get hacked.

Heck Snowden walked out with tons of sensitive data, and that wasn't even really a hack.

Her emails are being released, a few every now and then. So far nothing has been earth shattering.

ARGGH!

It's that she had an unsecure, unknown (until much later) server! It's not about her damn emails!

And they don't even need to be hacked, people can just walk out with the information.

I mean, thieves sometimes get into the vault anyway. There's no need for a security system if it can potentially be co-opted, right?

The OPM attack is employees, families of employees and as mentioned aboive people who were giving references. It compromised background investigations of possible government employees as well as people seeking sec clearance fro contracting jobs.

We are talking about stolen social security numbers and personal information -- information related to security clearances people had/have. It is credit cards and identity issues, even fingerpirnt data.

I am sorry you were breached.

Just odd that there is no investigation of this.

I'll be fine, I watch my credit like a hawk.

server that housed Foundation, Bill, Hillary & Chelsea's personal email, and Hillary & some of her staffers government email that was subject to FOIA requests. It's not clear that Hillary got appropriate clearance for using a government employee in this manner.

Once again her clever ways have been the cause of wasted taxpayer $$$.

But in both cases a Clinton was arrogant and left a trail that someone would be quick to follow in order to ty to prove their operating assumption of Clinton corruption.
I've had enough of them and the investigations their actions encourage.

Feel the Bern, baby!

You'll find out that the story is from today.

Your detractors on this board couldn't carry your_______


Keep giving em Hell...

than who is elected to the WH.

It is like a hobby to them...

The way I want to see Karl Rove taken away in handcuffs, certain around here have that fantasy about the leading democratic candidate for prez.

I've been worried all along that Clinton is going to be sandbagged by a very well financed and prepared rat-fucking campaign from the right. They've had years, eight of them, to prepare for this scenario, and they have been doing just that.

I am a Sanders supporter but I am not "excited" that the stupid email server problem just keeps not going away. Clinton did this to herself, by the way, and it is a fucking mess, and it will remain a mess for the duration of her campaign.

And giving credibility to the fucking bullshit email issue, is doing the rightwing job for them.

so sick of this shit

EOM

Now if you want to be conspiratorial, I would look to see exactly who recommended setting up a private server, 'cause that person is either an incompetent idiot or an actual mole.

why in holy hell people at DU help them i dont know

Did Clinton set up a private email server or did she not set up a private email server?

and there it is, folks, right here at DU

and it is allowed

Simple question, yes or no?

Since you are refusing to answer, the answer to the first question was, "yes she did".
The answer to this question is also "yes she did".

Those are just facts. Nobody is disputing them. They are not rightwing facts or leftwing facts or centrist facts.

Setting up a private server that doesn't have layers of security like the federal government is a big deal.

(Before anyone start this: yes, some minor servers on the federal government's system have been hacked, but the confidential information wasn't accessed because the federal government has LAYERS of security).

Based on the information in this article.

But that really is not what concerns me. What concerns me is the stunning idiocy of doing this, of mixing her personal and government email on a private server and by doing so opening up all of her email correspondence to her enemies. She gave them the fishing expedition they wanted so desperately to have.

In the movie a HUAC member is trying to push Dalton Trumbo around by asking him yes or no questions with no chance to elaborate and Dalton Trumbo said the only person who answers yes or no is an idiot or a slave.

So far all I've gotten back is arggle-bargle. But I do appreciate being accused of being HUAC. That was also pretty much as nonsensical a response to a really simple question as the fail that fell out of the incoherent prior responder.

That being said the Repugs wouldn't give a shit about Benghazi or her e-mails if she was a private citizen and there would be no investigation because there would be no Benghazi Committee from which the referral for an investigation comes from.

That is all I have been saying about this mess since it started. Clinton screwed up by using a private server and she is going to keep paying for that "bad idea" for the duration of the 2016 campaign. If she wins the election she will continue paying for it for her entire presidency. It is the thread these fuckers are going to keep pulling.

But go back to yucking it up with your pal calling me a freeper. Real fucking pleasant talking to you.

The private server was a bad idea but the reaction has been overkill.

Those are the rulz!

Sweep it under the rug or...else!

is the one drinking kool aid

The irony is so thick....

for both government and personal email?

The sources cited above include these great places...

Gowdy Doody don't run the FBI, chief.

Hillary's warmongering, corrupt Wall Street ties, support of fracking, campaign contributions from special interests, connections to the for-profit prison system, refusal to fight for a $15 minimum wage, support of the TPP (until a she was against it), Iraq-War vote, hawkish foreign policy praised by Neocon Kagan, "cut-it-out" approach to reigning in powerful banks--are all low-hanging fruit.

Her failures are obvious.

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...because Hillary Clinton is a scandal magnet and it's only going to worsen.

According to The Atlantic, Hillary helping Swiss Bank USB avoid handing over client data to the IRS. The IRS was suing USB for 52,000 bank records, so that millionaires and billionaires who hide money and steal tax dollars from this country--would finally be held accountable. Seems as though Hillary brokered a deal--as Secretary of State--that was instrumental in helping USB and in the end they were required to hand over less than 5,000 records.

That Hillary. What a go getter! She balks at a $15 minimum wage for working stiffs, but by God--she'll go to the mattresses for a powerful bank. Just look at her go!

After all of this--USB donated $600k to the Clinton Foundation and paid Bill Clinton $1.2 million in speaking fees.

I mean really. If you're in f-word mode at the mere mention of a Hillary scandal--I'd make sure the 'whip' setting on your blender is working order, because the public has barely grazed the surface of the Clinton Foundation dalliances. It will be like a scandal merry-go-round that will just keep going and going and going. But without the pretty music.

Here's a link to the story about the USB/Hillary love fest. But seriously. Massive trigger warning. Do not read unless you're drinking something strong. Strong and chocolatey. I'd add sprinkles too.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/07/hillary-helps-a-bankand-then-it-pays-bill-15-million-in-speaking-fees/400067/

Well-informed, beautifully written.

I hope you're consistently careful to be as unalertable as possible. (See how awkward my prose style is?) Some would prefer that people not look too closely at Hillary.

It's amazing the motives they ascribe to us, no ???

I'll take it.

That's why I keep saying that DU is a mirror image of Free Republic. The same kind of dogmatic people populate that site. If it's not their candidate of choice, then they rather sink the ship than see another candidate of their party win the WH. So damn selfish and shortsighted!!!!

That's a win for everyone since he's the best candidate out there to do the people's bidding.

Not that I'm saying I hope she is destroyed politically, but it certainly wouldn't hurt the people of the USA. But your statement makes it seem as if anyone who is concerned about her situation - that she created for herself - is not concerned about who gets in the White House and those two are not mutually exclusive nor does it mean that they want her to be destroyed politically.

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...the first time he calls on President Clinton.

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The story comes from a letter Grassley wrote to Kerry and decided to share.

No motive there, I'm sure.

....the sinking of the Maine.

Everybody knows that.

They are feelin' it!

I guess the rules are different if you're part of the in crowd.

I would elaborate but I don't want a hide. If anybody wants DSB's thoughts on this or any other matter they can send me a private message. I will even give them my phone #.

lol.

Eta: headlines should not be all caps and should be as originally written, unless the changes made clear.

I would respond to your patronizing of me in kind but I am trying to avoid the gaze of the alert crowd or in the alternative not give them anything substantial to work with.



Love,
DSB

Which by the way, the 8th is a Friday. So I take it you meant the 9th.

I will take the Metro to Seventh And Flower... From that station we can take the Blue Line to Long Beach. I wanna hit up Compton and Watts.

EOM

from the wilderness. Not hiding really. Nearly all the way back full speed.

Cause everybody pleads the 5th all the time! Right?

would instruct their client to do the same.

Money makes everything right then.

with foreign government information which Hillary's emails have had scads of are considered classified at birth regardless of the markings on the emails.

At least in Office... Not Sure About Microsoft Exchange Server tough.

HRC was SOS. The server file started when she left, so either he never used the State Department email system of it was deleted by an IT specialist.

on the private server and didn't use the government email. There's a reason he claimed the 5th.

which purges them from the server and stores them in a local .pst. No IT specialist required.