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cali

(114,904 posts)
Mon Dec 14, 2015, 01:52 PM Dec 2015

What is Hillary's position on the TTIP?

The TPA having passed, the next President will preside over some big upcoming proposed trade deals. All I know about Hillary in regard to the TTIP is what she said about it in 2012; that it's wonderful of course.

I think trade deals could be a significant issue in 2016. Hillary is clear as mud about these issues. She obfuscated for months about the TPP, coming out in half-hearted opposition to it at an interestingly advantageous moment; an opposition so tepid and with so much room for an easy reversal back to her previous full throated support, that no one should be surprised when it happens.

Why anyone should trust her on this, is unfathomable.

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Hepburn

(21,054 posts)
3. Unless...it doesn't support what she needs at the moment. For example...
Mon Dec 14, 2015, 02:01 PM
Dec 2015

...she is against it if she needs liberal support for the primaries.

But...once she has what she wants, yes, her corporate claws will come out and she will grab whatever is necessary to please her corporate masters.

JMHO

ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
5. this is unfair and untrue
Mon Dec 14, 2015, 02:30 PM
Dec 2015

It depends on what big money lobbyists and campaign contributors want her to do.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
6. If she follows her typical modus operandi
Mon Dec 14, 2015, 02:35 PM
Dec 2015

If Hillary follows her typical methods on the TTIP, she will say very, very little while the topic is hot. Politicians will be battling away to get this horrid piece of legislation passed. During the time, when we need a politician to stand up and fight for us, Hillary surely won't speak out. She won't fight against it. She'll just lie in the tall weeds and hide.

Then, a week before it's supposed to pass--after the debate is nearly finished and all of the political wrangling is completely, she'll meekly announce that she's against it.

Because that's exactly what she did with the TPP. She did nothing to stop it, but made a symbolic and useless overture against it--so she could say she was against it.

Has Hillary ever championed anything publicly, like Elizabeth Warren does? Elizabeth Warren said plenty about the TPP, the big banks, the horrors of Wall Street power. Warren is a true champion of the middle class, and we know this because we see her doing it. We hear her words.

Hillary...not so much.

tritsofme

(17,403 posts)
12. Her ambivalence toward President Obama's trade agenda is an artifact of the primaries
Mon Dec 14, 2015, 09:49 PM
Dec 2015

That's not to say I don't find her positioning to be a disappointment, but I do recognize her current opposition to TPP as wholly disingenuous.

In the GE and once in the White House, I expect she will continue moving the ball on these trade deals where Obama left off.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
14. She still needs to win the nomination, so I assume she is against it at the moment.
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 12:10 AM
Dec 2015

If we are foolish enough to nominate her she will move to the right and there really is no telling where she will end up on it.



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