2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumClinton’s “inevitability” is a myth
Clintons inevitability is a myth, and Bernie Sanders will be president, it is now claimed.
Hillary Clinton is not leading in the polls. Rather, she has been the beneficiary of a campaign to desperately convince voters that they will end up electing a person they dont like, according to a new report by the Huffington Post.
Mainstream pundits and public relations executives work tirelessly to make you believe Clinton is inevitability.
CNN writes that Clinton indirectly controls the PR arm of the Democratic Party, and this hidden string-pulling has been critical in establishing the myth that Hillarys presidency is inevitable.
The report adds that this grave state of affairs is in fact set to get worse in the near future.
The nations leading Democratic PR firm will soon be owned by a private equity group run by a longtime Clinton insider.
http://www.inquisitr.com/2630207/bernie-sanders-will-be-president-new-report-claims/
Arkansas Granny
(31,518 posts)"inevitability" or saying "it's her turn" are people who oppose her. Her supporters see that she currently has the lead, but her nomination is not inevitable, and if she wins the nomination it will be because of her qualifications, not because "it's her turn".
merrily
(45,251 posts)VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)Its absolutely true IRL and on DU...
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)Racists don't generally come out and say 'I'm a racist!'. They'll just say things that any person who's got the slightest bit of racial awareness will recognize as showing racist tendencies. They can see how a lot of folks are 'turned off' (or pissed off) by their beliefs, so they try to get them across indirectly, and to hide them in other ideas. So we wind up with a lot of laws that 'just happen to have' disparate impact on minority communities.
Likewise, the Hill folks realized early on that actually talking about "inevitability" or saying "it's her turn" was actually working against them, and started trying to avoid saying them directly, but if you get into long enough debates with many of them, you'll notice the ideas creeping in in other ways. 'It's past time for a woman President.' 'She's got the experience!' (Tied to a long list of 'accomplishments' that are usually just Hillary making sure she's in every photo op possible, like a high schooler who pads their resume with dozens of extracurriculars to try to get into a good school.) And yes, occasionally they will even slip up in the heat of the moment, and use the turn word, or talk about how we should have elected her instead of Obama, how much better it would have been had she been President the last eight years.
So of course it's other people who point out the subtext and dogwhistles, not the people who are pushing them but trying to do so subtly.
Android3.14
(5,402 posts)The support for HRC used to be a mile wide and an inch deep. Today it is a half-mile wide and a mere film of indignant moisture.
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)United States.
And it does not harm to me or anybody but Bernie supporters because you have to keep living in denial and lying to yourselves because of the inevitability of it.
You don't like to see the polls posted on this board. You don't like to read anything reality based.
Well I'm not going to enable you.
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)What else would we be in denial about? If we support our candidate we want him/her to win. What is your point?
quickesst
(6,280 posts).... is an absolute fact. I have pointed this out many times, so I can probably tell you with some certainty that you will be met with the same reaction that I have. Silence. Not once have I received a reply either denying it or proving it wrong. Of course it will continue with the belief that if you repeat something often enough people will believe it, but the only people being sucked into that ploy are those who are all too willing to jump on that shaky bandwagon.
BlueMTexpat
(15,369 posts)by her opponents in order to slander her.
There are others here who don't seem to see that, but I'm with you and have seen it, and more than once.
Things do look good for her right now, especially in terms of endorsements and building up state Dem organizations, but I - as one of her supporters - do not take anything for granted and no votes have yet been cast.
Even though I am a Hillary supporter, I love all our Dem candidates and will be proud to support any one of them in the GE. I simply prefer Hillary because I believe that she has the best all-round qualifications and experience for the job.
Hepburn
(21,054 posts)...it is soooooooooooo Clinton Coronation all the time.
Arkansas Granny
(31,518 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)Lots and lots of that from her du supporters.
I look forward to your admission that you are wrong.
Arkansas Granny
(31,518 posts)of her qualifications and experience. After the 2008 primaries, it would be a fool who thought that her nomination and election were inevitable.
cali
(114,904 posts)libdem4life
(13,877 posts)She's only qualified to join the Billionaires...that's what has made her "inevitable". Face it, who else has the money? Bernie? Sentence 1, as well his slogan, disqualifies him. It costs a billion plus dollars these days to even run for President. Also, a s### load of national TV coverage.
Now who has access to that kind of money? Who has a nifty Foundation through which to, uh, shovel money into? Who are the funders of this person? Can she get hold of a cool billion?
So see, Bernie people are definitely NOT touting Clinton's inevitability. What a nutty, incoherent concept.
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)Hillary has a friend who bought a PR firm that does work for Democrats therefore Bernie will be President.
What a desperate attempt to attack Hillary. There is no there there. I think we will have to put up with this kind of shit for Hillary's coming eight years in White House.
It is been tried before but she will still become Madam President.
I have only contempt for for anyone involved in this kind of smear business. There is no honor in it.
That supposed Democrats on this board are willing to carry water for the right wing in order to boost Bernie is disgusting.
Bernie can't win because he can't get minority support so you try to peal off Hillary's support with OP's like this.
Well for the same reason we don't bother with on line polls, it's not going to happen. We are smarter than that.
Bernie has peaked. His talking point campaign with no ideas how to get things done has gotten all the support it's going to get.
BlueMTexpat
(15,369 posts)onehandle
(51,122 posts)I'll be damned.
Godhumor
(6,437 posts)Huffington Post report claims, indeed.
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)have a great future writing fiction ... they come up with the darnedest conspiracy theories.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)You got money and power and connections to money and power, you get more money and power. The institutions with money and power will use their money and power to help you.
If you're not connected to the Oligarchs, you'll be ignored and/or denigrated by the conventional wisdom echo chamber as part of the "fringe" and "unelectable" long before any votes are cast....Which creates a self-fulfilling prophecy.
"I like what this Bernie guy stands for, and I'm not crazy about Clinton. But I must be wrong because the media and inside politicians tell me she's inevitable."
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)Not just in the US, but in every country in the world ... including socialist/communist countries like China, Cuba, North Korea, Vietnam etc.
No point in whining about it.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)Yes it's the way it's been. Doesn't mean we have to continue to let it get WORSE, instead of trying to make it better and morer open.
Back in the late 18th Century, the argument could have been made that "Yes King George is an unfair bastard, and Britain is screwing us colonists with their policies and imperialistic behavior towards us. But that's just the way it is. the British Empire rules the world, and you ought to stop whining about that."
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)However, I used to do business in communist Russia (before the breakup) and there was the same dynamic at play as in Western democracies.
In the remotest possibility that Bernie Sanders becomes POTUS, there will still be "more connected" people and "less connected" people. There is nothing we can do about that. It is human nature.
Jane Sanders did become president of Burlington College with a degree from a correspondence school. Would it have been possible without connections? You tell me.
PassingFair
(22,434 posts)Gross!
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)brooklynite
(94,598 posts)randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]Treat your body like a machine. Your mind like a castle.[/center][/font][hr]
Armstead
(47,803 posts)Have you watched the coverage of Republicans lately?
"The real question is how (Trump, Cruzzer, whomever) will do when he comes up against Clinton."
You don;t have to say inevitable top imply inevitable....or you can say almost inevitable iof you want to hedge bets. The effect is the same. Create a self fulfilling prophecy of inevitability in the public mind.
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libdem4life
(13,877 posts)Certainly not Bernie supporters. That's a backhanded way to say..."Hillary is inevitable". Clever, huh?
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