2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumI see plenty of posts about Sanders doing well in Iowa...
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I see plenty of posts about Sanders doing well in New Hampshire...
Two States with 59 delegates up for grabs (approx 2.9%) of which a significant share will go to Clinton even if she loses.
Has there been any good news anywhere else?
Kentonio
(4,377 posts)The effect that victories there would have is staggering.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)this poster just laid out why that is a ridiculous statement! Even IF he were to win BOTH elections......and that is one humongous IF.....it still is a long way to winning HUNDREDS of Delegates over....
this is why SHE has 94% odds of winning the Primary...
Good Luck!
Kentonio
(4,377 posts)If he wins Iowa and New Hampshire then the two remaining roadblocks in his route to the nomination are removed. Firstly name recognition: the press attention from winning those two states puts him front page everywhere. The media have never been able to resist an outsider winning Iowa, and that's a huge positive press boost. Secondly, the aura of inevitability around Clinton is destroyed. The voting public don't think about the demographic makeup of the states, they just see this guy winning. Once people see it as a real choice between the candidates, the race is basically done, because Hillary doesn't have the strength of policy or the enthusiasm that Bernie does.
She'll still win SC, but the momentum from those early victories is enough to propel him to victory in the later states.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)virtualobserver
(8,760 posts)back to back wins in Iowa and NH will radically alter the national polls in either direction.
People are barely paying attention in the other states.
brooklynite
(94,595 posts)JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)brooklynite
(94,595 posts)...perhaps Bernie should try some more?
think
(11,641 posts)The next 1 is on a MLK weekend. That's a total of 4 debates before the 1st primaries. We had that many debates by mid July in 2007.
Perhaps DWS should have quit doing Hillary favors by burying the few debates we are going to have on weak viewing days. Anyone with half a brain can tell that these dates were picked to minimize the number of viewers. We'll be lucky to get 5 million viewers for this next one.
What a joke. Excessive debates....
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Seems just the opposite.
comradebillyboy
(10,154 posts)Hillary's numbers are bigger than Bernie's numbers and therfore draw the simplistic conclusion that Hillary is ahead.
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)think
(11,641 posts)of air time....
Eric J in MN
(35,619 posts)firebrand80
(2,760 posts)Along with the National race and an odd SC poll thrown in here and there
ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)So please don't pretend otherwise. You know perfectly well an Iowa victory followed by a NH victory would provide an ENORMOUS boost and huge momentum. You're not talking to a bunch of idiots.
brooklynite
(94,595 posts)...Winning IA and NH won't abruptly shift Clinton's 40% lead in South Carolina; he'll have about two weeks, and his infrastructure and message will need to already be in place. He's shown no great resonance in SC or any of the southern States that Obama took in 2007. If Clinton racks those up (Super Tuesday is about four days after SC), losing NH and IA will be seen as a hiccup.