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brooklynite

(94,595 posts)
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 02:35 PM Dec 2015

I see plenty of posts about Sanders doing well in Iowa...

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I see plenty of posts about Sanders doing well in New Hampshire...

Two States with 59 delegates up for grabs (approx 2.9%) of which a significant share will go to Clinton even if she loses.

Has there been any good news anywhere else?

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Kentonio

(4,377 posts)
1. Right now Iowa and NH are the only games in town
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 02:37 PM
Dec 2015

The effect that victories there would have is staggering.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
5. hahahahaha...
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 02:42 PM
Dec 2015

this poster just laid out why that is a ridiculous statement! Even IF he were to win BOTH elections......and that is one humongous IF.....it still is a long way to winning HUNDREDS of Delegates over....

this is why SHE has 94% odds of winning the Primary...

Good Luck!

 

Kentonio

(4,377 posts)
16. He has thousands of volunteers working hard in every state of the nation
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 03:59 PM
Dec 2015

If he wins Iowa and New Hampshire then the two remaining roadblocks in his route to the nomination are removed. Firstly name recognition: the press attention from winning those two states puts him front page everywhere. The media have never been able to resist an outsider winning Iowa, and that's a huge positive press boost. Secondly, the aura of inevitability around Clinton is destroyed. The voting public don't think about the demographic makeup of the states, they just see this guy winning. Once people see it as a real choice between the candidates, the race is basically done, because Hillary doesn't have the strength of policy or the enthusiasm that Bernie does.

She'll still win SC, but the momentum from those early victories is enough to propel him to victory in the later states.

 

virtualobserver

(8,760 posts)
3. Politics is a game of momentum
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 02:39 PM
Dec 2015

back to back wins in Iowa and NH will radically alter the national polls in either direction.

People are barely paying attention in the other states.

brooklynite

(94,595 posts)
8. Excessive debates take candidates away from actual campainging...
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 02:48 PM
Dec 2015

...perhaps Bernie should try some more?

 

think

(11,641 posts)
9. Excessive? We're just having our 3rd debate. The 2nd one that is on a frigging Saturday.
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 03:01 PM
Dec 2015

The next 1 is on a MLK weekend. That's a total of 4 debates before the 1st primaries. We had that many debates by mid July in 2007.

Perhaps DWS should have quit doing Hillary favors by burying the few debates we are going to have on weak viewing days. Anyone with half a brain can tell that these dates were picked to minimize the number of viewers. We'll be lucky to get 5 million viewers for this next one.

What a joke. Excessive debates....

comradebillyboy

(10,154 posts)
13. That's only because you can see
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 03:41 PM
Dec 2015

Hillary's numbers are bigger than Bernie's numbers and therfore draw the simplistic conclusion that Hillary is ahead.

 

think

(11,641 posts)
10. If he wins those 2 maybe ABC News will double their coverage of Bernie and give him 40 seconds
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 03:04 PM
Dec 2015

of air time....

firebrand80

(2,760 posts)
12. Those are the only places that are really getting polled
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 03:23 PM
Dec 2015

Along with the National race and an odd SC poll thrown in here and there

ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
15. you are no political neophyte
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 03:48 PM
Dec 2015

So please don't pretend otherwise. You know perfectly well an Iowa victory followed by a NH victory would provide an ENORMOUS boost and huge momentum. You're not talking to a bunch of idiots.

brooklynite

(94,595 posts)
17. Momentum has to be built upon...
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 04:07 PM
Dec 2015

...Winning IA and NH won't abruptly shift Clinton's 40% lead in South Carolina; he'll have about two weeks, and his infrastructure and message will need to already be in place. He's shown no great resonance in SC or any of the southern States that Obama took in 2007. If Clinton racks those up (Super Tuesday is about four days after SC), losing NH and IA will be seen as a hiccup.

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