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elleng

(130,964 posts)
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 04:07 PM Dec 2015

It's Not About "Not Liking A Candidate"! It's About Reality!

'Debbie Wasserman-Schultz and the DNC has given the 2016 election to the rightwing extremist by trying to hand the title to Hillary Clinton. The popularity of Bernie Sanders is because too many people in this Country DO NOT trust Hillary and are tired of the Washington Establishment! With that said Bernie is supported by independents, green party, socialist, democrats and republicans who will NOT support or vote for Hillary in the election. Some of the Democrats might but the rest will write in Bernie or vote Jill Stein from the green party. The republicans of course will vote republican because most of them are supporting Sanders to bring down Hillary.

We had an alternative in Martin O'Malley but the media and the left ignored him, making this a popularity contest between Trump, Sanders and Clinton! (By the way I blame Trump for the unrest in this Country by his constant racism and fearmongering. With that said the media is the real danger as they have given him a 24/7 platform to spread this cancer that is destroying our morals and values as a Country.)

We still have a chance to support real leadership and get behind a man of action, not just words but the party better wake up or it will be too late. We have a man who is young, intelligent and has a proven record of action and is NOT a part of the Washington Establishment like Bernie and Hillary have been for years.

Right now gun control is a huge issue and Martin O'Malley has taken on the NRA and won! He was also on the cover of the NRA magazine a few months ago as their number one enemy and the media ignored it! As Joe Biden would say! "This is a BIG F-ing deal"!

Here are just five boldly liberal policies O’Malley has pushed during his time as governor:

Ended the death penalty in Maryland: As governor, O’Malley signed legislation in 2013 making Maryland the sixth state to abolish capital punishment. A year later, he commuted the sentences of the four remaining inmates on Maryland’s death row. He remains a opposed to the death penalty, saying in a statement after a federal jury convicted Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev to death that “the death penalty is ineffective as a deterrent.”

Raised the minimum wage to $10.10 an hour: O’Malley has said while campaigning that he supports raising the federal minimum wage to $15 an hour. One of his last major policy achievements during his final year as governor was signing legislation that would increase Maryland’s minimum wage to $10.10 by 2018. “It is not fair, it is not right, it is not just that people should play by the rules, work 16-hour days and still be raising their children in poverty,” O’Malley said at the ceremony when he signed the law.

Legalized gay marriage: In 2012, O’Malley signed a bill legalizing same sex marriage in Maryland, joining seven other states in enacting marriage equality. The law survived a statewide referendum held later that year, which marked the first time marriage rights in the U.S. were extended to same-sex couples by a popular vote. O’Malley has continued to be vocal about the importance of marriage equality as he has geared up for his campaign. “The dignity of every person tells us that the right to marry is not a state right, it is a human right,” he said at a Democratic event in April.

Implemented stricter gun control laws: After pushing it through the state assembly, O’Malley signed a sweeping gun control measure requiring handgun buyers to submit fingerprints and obtain a license, banning 45 types of assault weapons, limiting gun magazines to ten bullets and banning gun ownership by people who have been involuntarily committed to a mental health facility. O’Malley’s package was considered one of the most progressive proposals in the wake of the Sandy Hook school shooting. The National Rifle Association vowed to fight the legislation, but their petition to halt its implementation ultimately failed.

Gave in-state tuition to the children of immigrants: Despite staunch opposition, O’Malley signed legislation as governor extending in-state tuition breaks to undocumented immigrants at Maryland’s colleges and universities. And two years later, he signed a law expanding the ability of illegal immigrants to get a driver’s license. He has also supported President Obama’s executive action on immigration and has gone even farther, saying the U.S. should not send unaccompanied minors who cross the southern border back to their home countries. “When refugee children arrive on our doorstop fleeing starvation and death gangs, we don’t turn them away — we act like the generous, compassionate people we have always been,” O’Malley told a group of Iowa Democrats last month.

O’Malley is already using his accomplishments in Maryland to shape his national campaign platform. In an interview with NPR in April, he discussed the economic policies including how he will aggressively take on big banks. “We have concentrated wealth and capital to such a degree that the vast majority of us don’t have the discretionary dollars to make our economy go and grow,” he said.

O’Malley has also called for reforming Wall Street by reinstating the 1933 Glass-Steagall Act that kept commercial banks separate from investment banks. In an op-ed in the Des Moines Register, he listed fundamental reforms he supports including replacing the leadership at banks that are repeat offenders, appointing people to government who will prosecute the banking offenders and making banks “bear the full weight of financial penalties,” among others.

And in the same NPR interview, O’Malley called on Congress to lower the interest rate on student loans and said he opposes the Trans-Pacific Partnership because it would hurt the middle class. He also more explicitly pointed out some of the differences between himself and Clinton, saying that Clinton “said until very recently that marriage equality was a state right” and that she is just now coming around to supporting drivers licenses for undocumented immigrants.

Martin O'Malley has put out issues and visions which has been picked up by Sanders or Clinton down the road and no one would know because the media has ignored him! https://martinomalley.com/category/policy/

It's not too late but the Party Bosses and the left better wake up soon and stop letting Debbie Wasserman-Shultz and those who think it's "Hillary's turn" continute to destroy the party! We need more debates and we need the media to stop playing games
with the future of our Country!'

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It's Not About "Not Liking A Candidate"! It's About Reality! (Original Post) elleng Dec 2015 OP
Let's say Democrats make up 40% of voters upaloopa Dec 2015 #1
What about the 14% of voters who will not support Hillary? jkbRN Dec 2015 #2
I just did and it isn't 14% upaloopa Dec 2015 #13
Your right, jkbRN Dec 2015 #16
What percentage wouldn't support Obama back in 08? Blue_Adept Dec 2015 #28
Gallup: Democrats 30%, Independents 43%, Republicans 26%. AtomicKitten Dec 2015 #5
+1 Go Vols Dec 2015 #8
Well if Dems are 30% then Bernie supporters upaloopa Dec 2015 #14
And Hillary cannot win the GE, so there's that. AtomicKitten Dec 2015 #15
it has to be that people are not plugged in yet restorefreedom Dec 2015 #3
It's true, restore, that most people are not plugged in yet, elleng Dec 2015 #4
m$m is a sad pathetic joke restorefreedom Dec 2015 #6
It is the damn media. artislife Dec 2015 #47
i agree he has been exemplary on that issue restorefreedom Dec 2015 #57
..or they believe bernie sanders can win. misterhighwasted Dec 2015 #55
dws is NOT helping restorefreedom Dec 2015 #58
I expect no less fro a bernie supporter. bernie sanders is not capable of leading on the world stage misterhighwasted Dec 2015 #62
i don't think restorefreedom Dec 2015 #64
Once upon a time... brooklynite Dec 2015 #7
You must recognize that his experience, programs and plans do NOT taste terrible elleng Dec 2015 #9
It's an abstraction... brooklynite Dec 2015 #11
there's no evidence that 'people don't find O'Malley appealing' bigtree Dec 2015 #17
And the reason O'Malley doesn't have Sanders' 30% is...? brooklynite Dec 2015 #18
I just stated the reason bigtree Dec 2015 #19
No, he doesn't... brooklynite Dec 2015 #20
compared to O'Malley, the true outsider in this campaign bigtree Dec 2015 #22
Perhaps my view is biased... brooklynite Dec 2015 #26
you don't seem to be able to have an objective conversation bigtree Dec 2015 #29
Anyone who makes the claim that Bernie is part of the establishment isn't worth reading cali Dec 2015 #10
+1 merrily Dec 2015 #30
The OP surely didn't make that claim. elleng Dec 2015 #50
He hugely miscalculated. He should have announced cali Dec 2015 #12
Yep. Chitown Kev Dec 2015 #21
I agree with that. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Dec 2015 #27
I think if that happened Bernie wouldn't be running right now Kalidurga Dec 2015 #56
His background with the Third Way is a disqualifier for many who support Bernie. Scuba Dec 2015 #23
those folks must be from DU bigtree Dec 2015 #24
Bogus? Scuba Dec 2015 #25
like I said bigtree Dec 2015 #31
So how does any of that make the claim that he's a Third Wayer bogus? Scuba Dec 2015 #33
you haven't provided ANY evidence that he's a 'third wayer' bigtree Dec 2015 #34
Well, there is his own writing ... Scuba Dec 2015 #35
look at his actual record bigtree Dec 2015 #38
So you're admitting he has Third Way ties. Got it. Scuba Dec 2015 #40
I did nothing of the sort bigtree Dec 2015 #41
What criticism? All I wrote is that he's a Third Wayer. Many here think that's a badge of honor. Scuba Dec 2015 #42
petty politics bigtree Dec 2015 #43
Plus he's a Third Wayer. Scuba Dec 2015 #44
I'm talking past you now bigtree Dec 2015 #46
So being labelled a Third Wayer is a smear? Scuba Dec 2015 #48
this is where you demonstrate utter disconnect bigtree Dec 2015 #49
It was interesting for me bigtree JustAnotherGen Dec 2015 #59
More evidence of unbogus--the OMalley/Ford editorial pushing the DLC centrism... HereSince1628 Dec 2015 #32
arguing for such radical notions bigtree Dec 2015 #36
I suggest in my reply that people will create what they want to believe if they can't otherwise HereSince1628 Dec 2015 #37
I know you have a double standard for your own candidate bigtree Dec 2015 #39
yes, my double standard...you'll work on that, I'm sure HereSince1628 Dec 2015 #45
People surely do create what they want to believe. elleng Dec 2015 #52
I've notice that n/t JustAnotherGen Dec 2015 #60
Foolish, that 'many,' elleng Dec 2015 #51
You need to read the thread. Scuba Dec 2015 #53
This message was self-deleted by its author Ed Suspicious Dec 2015 #54
Essentially the media is anointing candidates, rather than properly vetting them. EndElectoral Dec 2015 #61
Yes they are, elleng Dec 2015 #63

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
1. Let's say Democrats make up 40% of voters
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 04:21 PM
Dec 2015

Bernie supporters make up about 30% of Democrats. 30% of 40% is 12 %. Bernie supporters make up 12% of voters. Most will vote for the Democratic nominee. Those who won't can't be measured when looking at the total electorate.

To think that minuscule number of people will have any effect on the general election is laughable.

Blue_Adept

(6,399 posts)
28. What percentage wouldn't support Obama back in 08?
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 09:34 AM
Dec 2015

After all, we found that the party had quite a few people that would never vote for a black man for president.

It's a commonality in nearly every election cycle. Trying to make it a bigger thing is foolish.

 

AtomicKitten

(46,585 posts)
5. Gallup: Democrats 30%, Independents 43%, Republicans 26%.
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 05:04 PM
Dec 2015
http://www.gallup.com/poll/180440/new-record-political-independents.aspx

She has zero crossover appeal; her favorable ratings are underwater.

Bernie is the strongest GE candidate beating ALL Republican contenders by a wider margin than Hillary, plus she cannot beat them all.
 

AtomicKitten

(46,585 posts)
15. And Hillary cannot win the GE, so there's that.
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 05:40 PM
Dec 2015

DWS is doing her best to march the party off a cliff.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
3. it has to be that people are not plugged in yet
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 04:52 PM
Dec 2015

i can't think of any ofher reason why a) OM is not climbing significantly in the polls b) undecideds are not breaking OM

it has to be that people are not paying much attention yet.

also, unfortunately, the low info voters are likely to fall into groupthink and believe hillary is already the nom

elleng

(130,964 posts)
4. It's true, restore, that most people are not plugged in yet,
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 04:56 PM
Dec 2015

msm doesn't help AT ALL, and low info voters are more likely to fall into groupthink, but what the hell's the excuse for what's happening HERE, at DU???

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
6. m$m is a sad pathetic joke
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 05:06 PM
Dec 2015

i have a theory about your question re: du. i wonder if its that people who are pro hillary or pro bernie and were BEFORE OM really got into the campaign are more drawn to places like du. Hillary appeals to pol watchers who are comfy withh status quo, and bernie is drawing a serious antiestablishment crowd.,OM seems to be able to appeal to the "regular" joe and jane, dems and indys who are not political maniacs but lean lib who are not as likely perhaps to visit or post on DU. they also may not be paying close attention yet which is why i still believe once the voting starts and things get going, his numbers will move

agree with you re dws...horrid, horrid,horrid and not at all supporting true democracy.

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
47. It is the damn media.
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 11:37 AM
Dec 2015

I only see what Martin is doing because of this site.

His stand with the Muslim community has really endeared me. I am not a religious person, I don't believe in any one of them, but I hate persecution, I hate scapegoating and I think we should just respect that other people believe in a source of some kind.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
57. i agree he has been exemplary on that issue
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 12:17 PM
Dec 2015

and he isn't all Godly about it. its basically about respect for others and their right to live their life and believe what they want.

and yes, the m$m has already decided who the nom is. can't wait to see their faces when bernie and om pull a 1-2 in iowa.

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
55. ..or they believe bernie sanders can win.
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 12:03 PM
Dec 2015

Neither Hillary nor DWS is OMalleys problem.
Bernie is.
I really like OMalley. He is smart, concerned and diplomatic. He has policy plans in order, well thought out, & he thinks on a far broader, more global scale than bernie sanders keeps proving he even has the capacity for.
The idiocy of bernie's latest statement, refusing to even give credit to the effort of Obama's diplomatic success in Paris, tells us that bernie sander's numbers should be in the single digits. His lack of gratitude for such an accomplishment, a beginning in climate change, 8s a disgrace to the DEM Party.

Now compare bernie's ungratful statement to Martin OMalley's.
What a proud statement he gave. He has the foresight to acknowledge what a diplomatic feat it was to bring together world leaders, giant egos in play, while also knowing that this is a beginning step.

Every concerned person on the planet knows that & also knows that there"is more to be done".

Bernie sanders campaign is what stands in the way of OMalleys campaign.
The keyboard warrior revolution of bernie sanders is what is keeping OMalleys voice from being supported.
Not HRC. Not DWS.



restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
58. dws is NOT helping
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 12:23 PM
Dec 2015

she is all about hillary, and i think the reason she has been especially snubbish of Om is because he was probably seen as the likely alternative to clinton. bernie was expected to be a kucinich/rand paul fringe candidate, while OM, with his governor status, would be seen as a competent executive with all the positions the left wants.

the surprise of bernie's popularity has probably been a major player. dws and the elite dems are playing this as a hillary/bernie standoff, because they are stupid enough to believe bernie can't beat her. but they do recognize that om, with enough exposure to the public, could really take off, and be a youthful, energetic, and powerful ge candidate against whatever idiot the gop puts up. and for that reason, they will continue to keep him in the dark.

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
62. I expect no less fro a bernie supporter. bernie sanders is not capable of leading on the world stage
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 12:54 PM
Dec 2015

OMalley certainly is.
Clinton certainly is.

This is about a candidate who offers nothing but slander for other candidates, generalization, oneline statements with no policy follow through, avoids any questions that may prove controversial to him, hides behind his social media army of censoring the proven value of clinton or OMalley by broadbrushed name calling.
Bernies talking points are stale & repetitive.
OMalley alone has far a greater list 9f positive accomplishments over the course of his political life than bernie has in 25 yrs.
Nothing he has achieved nor speaks of in futuristic vision, makes bernie sanders capable of leading on the world stage in such critical times.
Absolutely nothing.

He is stuck in a loop from the past.

Forward thinking is not in bernies mindset.
Clinton, definately.
OMalley, definately proven yes.

I hope OMalley contunues through the end of Primary season for his message to finally be heard over the slander campaign of bernies keyboard slander-with-no-substance brigade. Because bernie wil be out before then.

This next Dem debate should do it for bernie. While HRC & OMalley stand up to address questions about ISIS, ME policy, and the outstanding beginning of climate change that Pres Obama masterfully negotiated in Paris. The one bernie could not even say a grateful thanks for such diplomacy.
Bernie will offer his standard safe oneliner statements & change the subject.

His days in this campaign are over by his simple lack of knowledge or willingness to compromise nor his showing of ability to negotiate. All that it takes to lead in 2017.

Stick to small State governance Mr Sanders.
He's not ready to lead & continues to prove that, regardless what his social media campaign says.
There it is.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
64. i don't think
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 12:59 PM
Dec 2015

we are talking about the same bernie.

but whatever, i look forward to him proving you wrong.

i do agree that OM has the chops to lead.

have a nice day

brooklynite

(94,591 posts)
7. Once upon a time...
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 05:08 PM
Dec 2015
A pet food company created a new dog food. To ensure that the launch was a success, the company hired a top advertising agency. After conducting sophisticated market analysis, the agency put their best creative team on it, and launched a brilliant advertising campaign promoting the new dog food. Sales went nowhere. The agency was fired, a new one brought in, and a new campaign launched. Sales still languished.


Fed up with spending millions of dollars with nothing to show, the CEO called together his sales and marketing team. They met for hours, arguing back and forth over the reasons the two campaigns had failed. The TV spots were too subtle and hadn't featured the product enough. The co-marketing campaign with the supermarkets wasn't synchronized tightly enough with the print advertising. The demographic targeting should have aimed a higher on the socioeconomic scale. On and on it went until everyone was talked out.


Finally, the exhausted CEO looked around at his burned out staff and asked if anyone else had any possible theories to explain the poor sales of the new dog food. After a long silence, a junior employee timidly raised her hand. "Yes?" asked the CEO.


"Well, I know this isn't exactly about marketing, but I noticed that the food tastes terrible and the dogs don't like it," she answered.


Sometimes, the dogs just don't like the dog food...

elleng

(130,964 posts)
9. You must recognize that his experience, programs and plans do NOT taste terrible
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 05:19 PM
Dec 2015

to the Democratic electorate. On the other hand, you may think the electorate is a bunch of dumb fools.

brooklynite

(94,591 posts)
11. It's an abstraction...
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 05:26 PM
Dec 2015

...bottom line, people don't find O'Malley appealing. It could be his issues, his background, his age, voice, hair color or the color of his campaign posters. I don't know what it is; but Sanders has been able to appeal to people and O'Malley hasn't.

bigtree

(85,998 posts)
17. there's no evidence that 'people don't find O'Malley appealing'
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 10:00 PM
Dec 2015

...sad that you need to resort to baseless insults.

Is it too much for you to accept that your candidate is better known and has run a good campaign? In fact, both Hillary and Bernie have been D.C. political fixtures for decades. It's understandable that they have a leg up in this campaign and that the true outsider would have an uphill struggle to overtake them in this race.

bigtree

(85,998 posts)
19. I just stated the reason
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 10:33 PM
Dec 2015

...he has a built-in base of supporters from his decades of national exposure from his years and years in Congress.

Polling shows that O'Malley is still mostly unknown to voters; not a unique difficulty for a former governor.

Polling does not show what you're claiming.

brooklynite

(94,591 posts)
20. No, he doesn't...
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 10:53 PM
Dec 2015

...his Vermont base is minimal. When anti-Clinton folks were searching for a candidate, nobody said "let's get Bernie to run". He didn't become a factor until Warren made it abundantly clear she wasn't running. Sanders (as his supporters point out) started at 0% and has built up a following. O'Malley has not.

bigtree

(85,998 posts)
22. compared to O'Malley, the true outsider in this campaign
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 10:59 PM
Dec 2015

...those two pols are much more well-known and established political figures on the national stage.

There's no evidence at all to support your criticisms of O'Malley and I just find them self-serving and unsupported by anything other than your own biased view.

brooklynite

(94,591 posts)
26. Perhaps my view is biased...
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 09:22 AM
Dec 2015

...but my candidate hasn't been continually stuck at <4% for six months.

Tell me, in 2008 did you complain that Dennis Kucinich was the "real outside candidate" and that he was being intentionally ignored?

Continue to blame "the media" and "the left" if you want. It won't solve your problem, but it might make you feel better.

bigtree

(85,998 posts)
29. you don't seem to be able to have an objective conversation
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 09:36 AM
Dec 2015

...opting for the na-na, my candidate's polling better argument.

Btw, I don't have a 'problem.' I have a pov which differs from your own.

Best of luck with your candidate.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
12. He hugely miscalculated. He should have announced
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 05:30 PM
Dec 2015

months before he did. Had he gotten in before Bernie, I'm convinced he would have done much better.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
27. I agree with that.
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 09:25 AM
Dec 2015

Had he been in first, he would probably be 10 or 15 points higher than he is now, depending on how early.

Coming in after Bernie, he merely comes off as an pale imitation.

bigtree

(85,998 posts)
24. those folks must be from DU
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 09:12 AM
Dec 2015

...because you can't find more than a smidgen of complaints on the net or elsewhere about this bogus association. It's really a criticism for the brain-dead who can't be bothered to look at his actual record of progressive accomplishments.

I've found the 'third way' rhetoric to be mostly a DU invention. It goes right along with the rest of the nonfactual nonsense which passes (for some here) as political debate.

bigtree

(85,998 posts)
31. like I said
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 09:38 AM
Dec 2015

...an argument for those who can't be bothered to look at his actual record of progressive accomplishments.

B.O.G.U.S.


some of his actual record of progressive accomplishments:

Raised Maryland’s Minimum Wage to $10.10
Governor O’Malley brought people together, forged consensus, and raised Maryland’s minimum wage to $10.10. Hundreds of thousands of Maryland workers will receive a raise, creating stronger customers for local businesses and good-paying, family-supporting jobs.

Protected Working Families
Governor O’Malley twice led the effort to expand Maryland’s refundable earned income credit, which puts more money in the pockets of working families. He also made Maryland the first state in America to pass a “living wage” for contractors working on state contracts.

Made the Tax Code More Progressive
In the midst of the worst economic downturn in history, Governor O’Malley reformed Maryland’s income tax. Today, 86% of Marylanders pay less in state income taxes than they did before Governor O’Malley took office.
Protected the Dignity of All

Secured Marriage Equality
Governor O’Malley led the successful effort to pass marriage equality in the Maryland General Assembly. Then when the issue went to a statewide referendum, he led the campaign, helping Maryland become the first state in the nation ever to defend marriage equality at the ballot box.

Protecting the Rights of Individuals–Regardless of Gender Identity
Citing the need to create “an open, respectful, inclusive world we want for all of our children,” Governor O’Malley signed into law a bill banning discrimination against transgender Marylanders. Maryland was just the 17th state to add gender identity and expression to its anti-discrimination laws.

Fought for New Americans
Governor O’Malley welcomed New Americans to Maryland. He passed the DREAM Act. He signed legislation granting undocumented workers drivers licenses to make Maryland roads safer, and stood up for the rights of unaccompanied children at the border – Maryland housed more unaccompanied minors per capita than any other state. He ordered the state to stop automatically honoring federal detention requests, and for the federal government to house children with their families.

“It’s contrary to who we are as a people to hold children in camps… . Setting aside for a fact any concerns you have or any feeling you have towards these refugee kids, think about the sort of country we want to leave to our children. We are not a country that should send children away and send them back to certain death.” — Martin O’Malley at NGA


Expanded Voting Rights
While other states around the nation push stricter voter ID laws designed to limit people’s ability to exercise the right to vote, Governor O’Malley made it easier to vote in Maryland by expanding early voting and same-day voter registration.

Ended the Death Penalty
Under Governor O’Malley’s leadership, Maryland repealed the death penalty and replaced it with life in prison without the possibility of parole.
Invested in the Next Generation

Led the Nation in Public Education
Under Governor O’Malley, Maryland’s public schools ranked #1 in America five years in a row, according to Education Week. Even in the height of the recession, while many states were cutting education spending, O’Malley invested record amounts in Maryland’s public schools, increasing funding by 37%.

Made College More Affordable
Governor O’Malley made higher education a budget priority and froze tuition for four years in a row. Under his leadership, Maryland did better than every state but one in keeping down college costs, according to the College Board.

Expanded Pre-Kindergarten
Governor O’Malley expanded pre-kindergarten to 1,600 more children in Maryland and laid the groundwork for a further statewide expansion.
Turned Baltimore City Around

Decriminalized Marijuana
Governor O’Malley decriminalized possession of small amounts of marijuana, allowing police to focus on addressing serious crimes.

Common Sense Gun Protections
Governor O’Malley made broad, common-sense reforms to reduce gun violence, including implementing a handgun qualification license requiring fingerprint background checks, an assault weapons ban, and a magazine capacity limit.
Launching a Jobs Agenda for the Climate Challenge

Saved the Chesapeake Bay
Governor O’Malley brought Marylanders together to reducing runoff and save the Chesapeake Bay. As a result, the State has reduced nitrogen loads by 14%, phosphorus loads by 15%, and sediment pollution by 18% while the State’s population has grown.

Embraced Renewable Energy
Governor O’Malley doubled the state’s renewable portfolio standard, setting a goal to increase in-state renewable generation to 20% by 2022. Since 2007, Maryland has grown its renewable energy generation by 41% and increased total renewable generation capacity by 56.9%. Maryland’s solar industry grew from near zero production to 173 MW by 2013.

Combatted Climate Change
Governor O’Malley established the Maryland Commission on Climate Change through executive order in 2007 and tasked the Commission with developing a Climate Action Plan to reduce greenhouse gas emissions.

Protected Clean Air
Governor O’Malley signed Maryland’s 2009 Greenhouse Gas Reduction Act, which set a statewide goal of reducing greenhouse gas emissions 25% below 2006 levels by 2020. By 2012, Maryland had driven down greenhouse gas emissions by nearly 10% compared to 2006, and by 20% compared to where Maryland would have been if no action had been taken (“business as usual” projections).
Keeping Marylanders Healthy

Expanded Health Care Coverage
Under Governor O’Malley, the number of Marylanders added to the state’s health system increased nearly 650,000. Maryland now enrolls more than 100,000 each year to the private health exchange. Maryland’s uninsured rate dropped 40%, the 9th largest drop in the United States, between 2013 and 2014.

Held the Line On Health Care Costs
Maryland is leading the nation in holding the line on health care costs. Under Governor O’Malley’s leadership, Maryland implemented innovative reforms to its all-payer hospital rate setting system that are designed to hold down costs. One health care expert called those reforms, “without any question, the boldest proposal in the United States in the last half century.”

Led State Innovations
Maryland succeeded in implementing a comprehensive, statewide, private-public, secure Health Information Exchange to allow doctors and hospitals to share patient information (with their consent) producing better health outcomes. The O’Malley administration further drove down preventable hospitalizations by 11.5%.

Reduced Infant Mortality
Governor O’Malley publicly set goals for driving down Maryland’s infant mortality rate. Maryland exceeded that goal by nearly double, driving infant mortality rate down 21% between 2007 and 2012.
Fought for Women and Families

Maryland is ranked #1 in the Nation for Women
Under Governor O’Malley, Maryland was ranked the best state for Women in America. According to the Center For American Progress, “on matters of economics, leadership, and health, women, on average, fared the best in Maryland.” Maryland also ranked #1 percentage of women owned businesses, and #1 for lowest wage gap between genders.

Signed The Maryland Lilly Ledbetter Civil Rights Restoration Act
Governor O’Malley signed the state Lilly Ledbetter Civil Rights Restoration Act, to help women hold their employers accountable for pay discrimination.

Diversified The Court
Governor O’Malley appointed the first woman ever to be Chief Judge of Maryland’s highest court, and he named the first African-American female to serve on the court. That court, the Court of Appeals, now has a female majority for the first time in its history.

Defended Women’s Reproductive Rights
Governor O’Malley earned NARAL’s endorsement in 2010, and was honored by Planned Parenthood for his “his outstanding leadership in protecting and advancing reproductive rights in Maryland.” O’Malley signed the Family Planning Works Act giving 35,000 low-income women access to free pregnancy counseling, contraception, and cancer and STI screenings.

Enacted the Maryland Parental Leave Act

Governor O’Malley signed legislation requiring small businesses to offer six weeks of family leave without the possibility of job loss.

bigtree

(85,998 posts)
34. you haven't provided ANY evidence that he's a 'third wayer'
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 10:31 AM
Dec 2015

...just some photos from the time he addressed the group. You also haven't presented a bit of evidence that some measurable number of Sanders supporters are seriously rejecting O'Malley based on the misleading and fundamentally false association you're making.

It's an obvious smear (nice photos of a younger O'Malley though). I really don't care what you think. This DU smear hasn't gone anywhere, likely because those interested are able to discover for themselves O'Malley's progressive record of ACTUAL accomplishments which far outstrips either of his rivals.

If anything, what you're doing here is reducing the value of your advocacy by forwarding this bogus claim. It's transparently phony and I think it reflects poorly on your efforts here.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
35. Well, there is his own writing ...
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 10:35 AM
Dec 2015
By Martin O'Malley and Harold Ford Jr.
Tuesday, August 7, 2007

With President Bush and the Republican Party on the rocks, many Democrats think the 2008 election will be, to borrow a favorite GOP phrase, a cakewalk. Some liberals are so confident about Democratic prospects that they contend the centrism that vaulted Democrats to victory in the 1990s no longer matters.

The temptation to ignore the vital center is nothing new. Every four years, in the heat of the nominating process, liberals and conservatives alike dream of a world in which swing voters don't exist. Some on the left would love to pretend that groups such as the Democratic Leadership Council, the party's leading centrist voice, aren't needed anymore.

But for Democrats, taking the center for granted next year would be a greater mistake than ever before...

<more>

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/06/AR2007080601158.html


If you're next reply is that the DLC does not equal the Third Way, don't bother.

bigtree

(85,998 posts)
38. look at his actual record
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 10:44 AM
Dec 2015

...maybe you'd like me to pull up a few of Sanders' writings from his past and present them as his overriding viewpoint and position.

bigtree

(85,998 posts)
41. I did nothing of the sort
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 11:04 AM
Dec 2015

...now you've resorted to distorting what I've said.

You're just harming your own credibility by continuing this phony criticism of yours. It's telling how oblique you are to your own candidate's past positions and statements, as you work to smear O'Malley for these innocuous past associations.

Martin O'Malley has governed as a true progressive in my state. We don't need you to define him for us. His progressive ACTIONS and ACCOMPLISHMENTS speak louder than his detractors' words - progressive actions and accomplishments far outstripping either of his Democratic rivals' efforts.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
42. What criticism? All I wrote is that he's a Third Wayer. Many here think that's a badge of honor.
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 11:05 AM
Dec 2015

bigtree

(85,998 posts)
43. petty politics
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 11:29 AM
Dec 2015

...politics for the braindead.

It tells you nothing about the record or even the beliefs of O'Malley, and, in more ways than I can count, it actually distorts the reality of what the man has fought for in his public career and accomplished.

I just happen to think that to practice this type of braindead politics, especially here in this Democratic online community, detracts from and hinders the very issues and concerns which should be the underlying focus of all of our efforts on behalf of these politicians.

Your argument doesn't define O'Malley, at all. It merely labels him; incorrectly, at that. I know it's suffering for you to read something about O'Malley's actual, real world efforts and accomplishments. I do, however speak to the larger community when I post, even in reply, so you'll have to bear with me as I post more of O'Malley's real world, progressive record of action and accomplishment:


...as a lifelong Democrat from a Democratic family, Martin O'Malley has repeatedly stepped up to challenging elections and has consistently won the support of Democrats in *my state (*45 yrs.) through progressive stances and progressive policy achievements. His efforts in office have resulted in significant and concrete progressive changes and improvements in the lives of millions of citizens of my state. My pleasure and pride in seeing him step up to the challenge of running against a Democrat with not only national name recognition, but a built-in support base from a previous run for the presidency, is compounded by the decidedly progressive positions his campaign has put in front of his candidacy.

O'Malley has succeeded in almost every political contest he's participated in; beginning with his service as an assistant State's Attorney for the City of Baltimore in 1988 to 1990; serving on the a Baltimore City Councilor from 1991 to 1999 with the responsibility as Chairman of the Legislative Investigations Committee and Chairman of the Taxation and Finance Committee.

O'Malley was elected to two terms as Mayor of Baltimore, and subsequently elected to two terms as Governor of his state of Maryland. O'Malley was elected as the Vice Chairman of the Democratic Governors Association for 2009–2010, and on December 1, 2010, he was elected Chairman for 2010–2011.

As for Martin O'Malley's progressive efforts in office, I offer a litany here which only touches the surface of his advocacy and action:
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1. Ended death penalty in Maryland
2. Prevented fracking in Maryland and put regulations in the way to prevent next GOP Gov Hogan fom easily allowing fracking.
3. Provided health insurance for 380,000
4. Reduced infant mortality to an all time low.
5. Provided meals to thousands of hungry children and moved toward a goal for eradicating childhood hunger.
6. Enacted a $10.10 living wage and a $11. minimum wage for State workers.
7. Supporter the Dream Act
8. Cut income taxes for 86% of Marylanders (raised taxes on the rich).
9. Reformed Maryland’s tax code to make it more progressive.
10. Enacted some of the nation’s most comprehensive reforms to protect homeowners from foreclosure.


NEA named Maryland’s Martin O’Malley ‘America’s Greatest Education Governor’
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1281944

Maryland Gov. Martin O’Malley received the America’s Greatest Education Governor Award from the National Education Association in 2010. The award is presented each year to a governor who has made major, statewide efforts to improve public education. The Maryland governor was the third person to receive this award. Previous winners were Gov. Richardson of New Mexico and Gov. Easley of North Carolina.

“Governor O’Malley took office in 2007, just months before the nation plunged into a deep recession,” said NEA President Dennis Van Roekel. “Despite the economic devastation to his state, he kept his eye on the big picture—he understands that the recipe for economic recovery and success means preparing Maryland’s young people for the challenges of the 21st century.

“Governor O’Malley is a strong advocate for public education,” Van Roekel added. “He has made great strides in increasing school funding, expanding school programs, and taking the needs of the whole child into account in education policy decisions. O’Malley listens to parents, educators and community members when making policy decisions that affect Maryland’s public schools. He continues to be a champion of public education and truly believes, as we do, that education will lead to a brighter and better future for all of us.

“Lots of governors like to think of themselves as education governors, but Governor O’Malley has really earned that accolade.”

Under O’Malley, Maryland has made progress in closing the achievement gap. A key strategy has been the governor’s insistence that underprivileged and minority students be taught by teachers as highly qualified as those who teach economically advantaged students. That approach is paying off. In 2009, for example, 7.5 percent of Hispanic students and 9.6 percent of African-American students earned a score of 3 or better on at least one AP exam during high school. That’s up from 5.7 percent and 7 percent, respectively, in 2004.

O’Malley also secured a freeze on tuition to Maryland institutions of higher learning, making higher education more affordable for Marylanders.

Some of O’Malley’s other accomplishments: reinvigorating Maryland’s Career and Technology Education and Science, Technology, Engineering and Math (STEM) programs statewide, and launching the comprehensive Maryland STEM Innovation Network to promote the delivery of high quality STEM education at all levels throughout the state.

“Governor O'Malley has consistently placed public education at the top of his agenda,” said Clara Floyd, president of the Maryland State Education Association."In the most difficult of economic times, he championed historic funding of K-12 public schools, which has increased student achievement and led us to become No. 1 in the nation.”


In 2012, he signed a bill legalizing same sex marriage in Maryland, joining seven other states in enacting marriage equality. The law survived a statewide referendum held later that year, which marked the first time marriage rights in the U.S. were extended to same-sex couples by a popular vote.

Gov. O'Malley signed into law the Fairness for All Marylanders Act, extending housing, public accommodations, and employment protections to transgender citizens and visitors of the state.

"We are closer today to creating an open, respectful, inclusive world that we want for all of our children," O'Malley said prior to signing that bill. "This bill gives us another step closer to that vision and to that reality."
read: http://www.advocate.com/politics/transgender/2014/05/15/md-gov-signs-trans-nondiscrimination-bill-law

As Mayor of Baltimore, O'Malley helped the City become the first jurisdiction in Maryland to prohibit discrimination against transgender individuals in 2002. In one of his first acts as Governor, he signed an Executive Order prohibiting discrimination against transgender state employees in 2007.

At a National Conference on LGBT Equality in 2012, Martin remarked:

“The dignity of a free and diverse people who at the end of the day, all want the same thing for their children: to live in a loving and caring home that is protected equally under the law.”

The governor added that “discrimination based on gender identity is wrong...Passing a law to protect transgender Marylanders from employment, credit and housing discrimination is the right thing to do.”

On the final day of the 24th National Conference on LGBT Equality: Creating Change in Baltimore, Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley expressed hopes that Maryland would soon become the seventh state with marriage equality. The governor also talked about his support for efforts to secure gender identity nondiscrimination protections in the state.


Mother Jones magazine called him the best candidate on environmental issues.
Article here:

http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2014/12/martin-omalley-longshot-presidential-candidate-and-real-climate-hawk

Martin O'Malley signed a 2009 Greenhouse Gas Reduction Act far ahead of most other states, & the EPA
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/heather-taylormiesle/the-thing-we-should-be-ta_b_7545470.html?utm_hp_ref=climate-change/

Martin O'Malley boasts a strong record on environmental issues in his time as Governor, including doubling the state's renewable energy standard to 20 percent. Far ahead of most other states, and even the EPA, O'Malley signed Maryland's 2009 Greenhouse Gas Reduction Act, which set a statewide goal of reducing greenhouse gas emissions 25 percent below 2006 levels by 2020. By 2012, Maryland had driven down greenhouse gas emissions by nearly 10 percent compared to 2006, and by 20 percent compared to "business as usual" projections.

In 2011, Maryland League of Conservation Voters gave Gov. O'Malley a B+ overall in their Governor's Report Card (and an A for climate change).

from the Environmental Defense Fund:

In addition to the 2008 Climate Action Plan and the new GGRA Plan, Gov. O’Malley’s key accomplishments include:

(2008) Amendment to the Maryland Renewable Energy Portfolio Standard doubled the existing standard to require that 20% of Maryland's energy be created by renewable resources by 2022, including 2% from solar energy;

(2008) EmPOWER Maryland Act set an energy efficiency target and peak demand reduction target of 15% by 2015;

(2008) Maryland Strategic Energy Investment Program was created using revenues from the Northeast RGGI to offset ratepayers’ electricity bills and invest in energy efficiency programs;

(2009) Maryland Greenhouse Gas Emissions Reduction Act requires Maryland to cut greenhouse gas emissions 25% below 2006 levels by 2020; and

(2013) Maryland Offshore Wind Energy Act of 2013 created a fund to build 200 megawatts of wind energy, which Gov. O’Malley intends to use to construct one of the nation’s first offshore wind energy farms off the coast of Ocean City.

http://blogs.edf.org/energyexchange/2013/07/29/marylands-governor-omalley-leads-the-way-on-climate-and-clean-energy-policy/



O’Malley has received a “100 percent” rating from NARAL Pro-Choice Maryland


O’Malley’s high marks from NARAL are proven by his track record. In 2002, while he was serving as mayor of Baltimore, aides confirmed that O’Malley supports legal abortion and fair access without interference from the government until the point of viability. He also supports late-term abortion when the life of the mother is at risk, or when the fetus has a severe abnormality. And according to NARAL Pro-Choice Maryland, O’Malley has not infringed on abortion rights by signing any new abortion restrictions during his tenure as governor.

When it comes to birth control, O’Malley has increased access to contraception and pregnancy counseling, particularly among low-income women. In 2012, O’Malley signed the Family Planning Works Act, which greatly expanded reproductive-health access by providing low-income women with free pregnancy counseling and Medicaid-funded contraception, STI testing and cancer screenings. According to RH Reality Check, the act would provide these subsidized medical services to an additional 33,000 women in the state.

O’Malley has also promoted increased support for new mothers (and fathers) by signing the Maryland Parental Leave Act in 2014. The law expands parental leave for working parents, requiring Maryland small businesses to provide at least six weeks of unpaid leave for the birth of an employee’s child. Prior to the law, small businesses were exempted from providing unpaid family leave.

read: http://plannedparenthoodaction.org/elections-politics/newsroom/press-releases/planned-parenthood-action-fund-welcomes-martin-omalley-presidential-field/


When it comes to birth control, O’Malley increased access to contraception and pregnancy counseling, particularly among low-income women. In 2012, O’Malley signed the Family Planning Works Act, which greatly expanded reproductive-health access by providing low-income women with free pregnancy counseling and Medicaid-funded contraception, STI testing and cancer screenings. According to RH Reality Check, the act would provide these subsidized medical services to an additional 33,000 women in the state.

O’Malley has also promoted increased support for new mothers (and fathers) by signing the Maryland Parental Leave Act in 2014. The law expands parental leave for working parents, requiring Maryland small businesses to provide at least six weeks of unpaid leave for the birth of an employee’s child. Prior to the law, small businesses were exempted from providing unpaid family leave.

read: http://plannedparenthoodaction.org/elections-politics/newsroom/press-releases/planned-parenthood-action-fund-welcomes-martin-omalley-presidential-field/

Maryland, under Martin O'Malley, tied for having the lowest wage gap between our working men and women of any state in the nation...Maryland currently has the third-lowest poverty rate for women in the nation.

Maryland is the No. 1 state in the nation for women-owned businesses -- one-third of Maryland businesses are women-owned. Maryland also ranks third in the nation in percentage of managerial jobs held by women at 42.4 percent.


here's the report, well worth the read-thru: https://www.americanprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/StateOfWomenReport.pdf


GovernorOMalley took heat from the left & right for standing up for #borderkids. But he stood up when it mattered

As governor, O'Malley signed a bill allowing young immigrants illegally in the U.S. to pay in-state college tuition and to a bill to get driver's licenses.

He was the first governor to meet with Latino leaders last year and sign up to push House Republicans to bring immigration reform legislation to a vote, which they never did

He has shown respect that many in the immigrant community say is lacking in debates on immigration by using the term new Americans to refer to immigrants, whether here legally or not. He also established a state council to focus on integrating immigrants.

He opposed White House proposals to return young Central American children and families who crossed the U.S-Mexico border last summer, saying they would face "certain death."


On deportations - an issue that still vexes the current administration - O'Malley stopped Baltimore's City Detention Center from holding immigrants without criminal records for deportation by the federal government.

from July 11, 2014:

Maryland Gov. Martin O’Malley broke publicly with President Barack Obama and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton Friday, calling for a more humane policy toward the tens of thousands of unaccompanied minors who have illegally crossed into the United States.

“It is contrary to everything we stand for to try to summarily send children back to death,” the Democratic lawmaker told reporters. O’Malley also criticized the “kennels” in which those who have been detained are being kept and calling for the children to be placed in “the least restrictive” locations, including foster homes or with family members in the U.S.

“Through all of the great world religions we are told that hospitality to strangers is an essential human dignity,” O’Malley said. “It is a belief that unites all of us. And I have watched the pictures of young kids who have traveled for thousands of miles. I can only imagine, as a father of four, the heartbreak that those parents must have felt in sending their children across a desert where they can be muled and trafficked or used or killed or tortured. But with the hope, the hope, that they would reach the United States and that their children would be protected from what they were facing at home, which was the likelihood of being recruited into gangs and dying a violent death.”


Hillary Clinton told CNN last month that most of those detained should be sent back. “They should be sent back as soon as it can be determined who responsible adults in their families are,” she said. President Barack Obama said Wednesday that the parents of the migrants need to know that “it is unlikely that their children will be able to stay.”

O’Malley went so far as to call the children “refugees,” a term with legal weight that would allow most of them to remain in the U.S. He called on Congress and the President to avoid modifying the Trafficking Victims Protection Reauthorization Act of 2008. That measure requires that children who are not from Canada or Mexico who have crossed the border to be given an opportunity to see an immigration judge to make their case for amnesty. Lawmakers on both sides, as well as the White House, are reviewing ways to amend that law to ease deportations of the tens of thousands of migrant children, who are largely from El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras.

O’Malley said “the whole world is watching” how the U.S. responds to the humanitarian crisis.

“We have to do right not just by these kids but by our kids and protect the children who are here, put them in the least restrictive settings, get them out of these detention centers and these kennels where they are being cooped up, and operate as the good and generous people that we have always been,” he added. “That’s what’s at stake here, as well as the lives of these kids.”


read: http://time.com/2978026/martin-omalley-minors-immigration/

...also:

CASA Applauds Gov O’Malley’s Unwaveringly Moral Response to the Humanitarian Crisis on the Border

statement released by CASA (MD. Immigrants Rights Org.) Executive Director, Gustavo Torres:

“I applaud Maryland Governor Martin O’Malley for stressing that children fleeing violence and abandonment in Central America should be treated as children that deserve our support. In stark contrast to other public figures that have called for their quick deportation, Governor O’Malley has urged that arriving migrant children receive fair, humane treatment and, above all, a fair legal review of whether they should be allowed to stay. We have heard from our colleagues across the country that they are relieved to hear the Governor become an indispensable voice for the immigrant community. We have let these colleagues know that this is hardly the first time the Governor has served as a hero for immigrant communities. Across his governorship, he has been a true friend of New Marylanders and addressing the abominable treatment of children at the border is only the most recent example of his leadership.

Like the Governor, CASA believes that as an American society we must ensure the protection and humane treatment of the children arriving at the border. We hope that most children are immediately reunited with family members inside the United States. We also believe that Maryland and Virginia need to do our part to provide opportunities to house children in facilities where they can receive adequate counseling, education, and legal services. Governor O’Malley is working with federal officials to find an appropriate Maryland location as quickly as possible. We agree with him that Westminster would have been a mistake. We have now seen two locations in our region – Lawrenceville, VA and Westminster, MD – respond with virulent racism at the thought of children joining their communities. We don’t believe that humane treatment of children includes their relocation to hostile, anti-immigrant communities. Between our two states there are a plethora of communities that would treat the children with the love they deserve. We urge the federal government to confer with local leaders and organizations to provide insight and historical perspective about these sites before moving forward.”


CASA de Maryland and CASA de Virginia are their state’s largest immigrant rights organizations. Our almost 60,000 members work with CASA to create a more just society by building power and improving the quality of life in low-income immigrant communities.

related:

CASA de Maryland, supported O'Malley's decision to question the Carroll County site (a position distorted and mischaracterized by CNN, Politico, and by WH leaks to selected news orgs.).

"When we heard about the proposed Westminster site, our immediate thought was that the only place in Maryland less hospitable to children fleeing violence in Central America would be inside the Frederick County Sheriff's Department building," said Kimberly Propeack, an attorney with the group.

"We think he is right to question why the administration would propose the most anti-immigrant locations rather than the many other parts of the state where children will be sheltered and loved," she said.



Lis Smith ?@Lis_Smith (July 2014)
Good look at what @GovernorOMalley is doing to find housing for #borderchildren http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/md-politics/maryland-solicits-foster-parents-for-migrant-youths-as-omalley-meets-with-faith-leaders/2014/07/28/6a489d5a-1672-11e4-9e3b-7f2f110c6265_story.html

The state of Maryland stepped up its efforts Monday to recruit foster parents and solicit other assistance from the public to help with the flood of unaccompanied migrant children coming into the country from Central America.

O’Malley administration officials also indicated they had passed along several potential temporary housing sites to the federal government and that Montgomery County was among the possibilities for hosting a facility.

The action came as O’Malley has continued to speak out on the issue, urging the Obama administration to show compassion and resist sending the children back to dangerous situations in their home countries.

“We do not turn our back on innocent children who arrive at our doorstep fleeing death,” he said.

read: http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/md-politics/maryland-solicits-foster-parents-for-migrant-youths-as-omalley-meets-with-faith-leaders/2014/07/28/6a489d5a-1672-11e4-9e3b-7f2f110c6265_story.html


U.S. Department of Health and Human Services reported that more than 2,000 children have been relocated to Maryland in the first six months of this year.
http://www.wbal.com/article/108816/12/omalley-holding-second-meeting-with-clergy-on-immigrant-children

Martin O'Malley ?@GovernorOMalley
The greatest power we have is power of our principles. We're not a country that should send children away & send them back to certain death

*listen*: https://soundcloud.com/americarising/martin-omalley-we-are-not-a-country-that-should-turn-children-away

bigtree

(85,998 posts)
49. this is where you demonstrate utter disconnect
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 11:43 AM
Dec 2015

...from anything remotely relevant to my experience or interest.

Is this still interesting to you?

JustAnotherGen

(31,828 posts)
59. It was interesting for me bigtree
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 12:47 PM
Dec 2015

See if you can get him to admit our Fed Gov is a disaster and his candidate has been sitting his ass up there for 30 some odd years and - NOW all of a sudden - the long time DC'er realizes how much he and all the other Washington DC insiders (both parties) fucked our country up.

Not gonna happen - he'll try to say - Well well well - that's acutally Martin O'Malley when we all know it's not true but folks tell the lies they gotta tell themselves.

Excellent job outline O'Malley's experience and approach.

He's the only outsider and that's good enough for me.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
32. More evidence of unbogus--the OMalley/Ford editorial pushing the DLC centrism...
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 10:00 AM
Dec 2015

Our Chance to Capture the Center (who is "OUR" if not the DLC/New Dems?)

By Martin O'Malley and Harold Ford Jr.
Tuesday, August 7, 2007

With President Bush and the Republican Party on the rocks, many Democrats think the 2008 election will be, to borrow a favorite GOP phrase, a cakewalk. Some liberals are so confident about Democratic prospects that they contend the centrism that vaulted Democrats to victory in the 1990s no longer matters.

The temptation to ignore the vital center is nothing new. Every four years, in the heat of the nominating process, liberals and conservatives alike dream of a world in which swing voters don't exist. Some on the left would love to pretend that groups such as the Democratic Leadership Council, the party's leading centrist voice, aren't needed anymore.

But for Democrats, taking the center for granted next year would be a greater mistake than ever before...

<more>

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/06/AR2007080601158.html


-----
It's clear that people see what they want and if they don't outright deny reality, they suppose that something is not what it actually appears to be or that politicians have evolved.



bigtree

(85,998 posts)
36. arguing for such radical notions
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 10:41 AM
Dec 2015

...like:

"cap and trade carbon emissions, giv(ing) more Americans the chance to earn their way through college, achiev(ing) universal health care through shared responsibility, and enabl(ing) all Americans who work full time to lift themselves out of poverty.

Hilarious that you believe this article trumps his actual record of progressive accomplishment. It's a sight to behold to see these two old saws pulled out of the closet again. You'd think folks here would have better things to do than manufacture smears and distortions against our Democratic candidates (I can think of a handful of Sanders associations and stated beliefs in his past which supporters fall over backwards to refute)... then again, maybe not.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
37. I suggest in my reply that people will create what they want to believe if they can't otherwise
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 10:43 AM
Dec 2015

make it conform to their existing model.

I can only suppose that part of what I wrote doesn't conform to your existing model.

bigtree

(85,998 posts)
39. I know you have a double standard for your own candidate
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 10:46 AM
Dec 2015

...let's take Sanders' past writings and present them here as his overriding philosophy; not his writings in totality, but piecemeal and exclusive, as you've done here.

I can already hear the wailing and gnashing of teeth.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
45. yes, my double standard...you'll work on that, I'm sure
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 11:35 AM
Dec 2015

until it too, conforms to a model your prevailing beliefs.






elleng

(130,964 posts)
51. Foolish, that 'many,'
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 11:48 AM
Dec 2015

as there is no such 'background.'

And is his experience, plans and programs in any way 'third way?' Not a chance, for those who don't mind paying attention to facts.

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