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Nate Silver: Obama now almost at 80% win probability. (Original Post) RedSpartan Sep 2012 OP
Now we're talking. Great news. I still want it to be 100%. Booster Sep 2012 #1
I don't think you get to 100% until a few days after the election. tclambert Sep 2012 #35
Oh, ok then, I want 95% now. lol Booster Sep 2012 #39
Chuck Todd would call this "a toss up" Doctor Jack Sep 2012 #2
ha ha ha the Toadster is feeling uncomfy flamingdem Sep 2012 #3
Poor Chuck Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2012 #12
LOL SunSeeker Sep 2012 #15
Who is this man, Chuck Todd? Should I know of him? jonthebru Sep 2012 #32
Host of 'The Daily Rundown' on MSNBC fleur-de-lisa Sep 2012 #33
Yeah.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2012 #40
Inevitability is great, but let's not get lazy flamingdem Sep 2012 #4
reverse logic-We should shout it aloud all day long-Obama has it won graham4anything Sep 2012 #8
I agree the momentum is excellent and will help for sure with undecideds flamingdem Sep 2012 #10
That's called the bandwagon effect. tclambert Sep 2012 #36
at some point, even billionaires come to their senses graham4anything Sep 2012 #45
Thanks for the link. Hadn't seen that one before. tclambert Sep 2012 #50
this site has been accurate both in 04 and 08 graham4anything Sep 2012 #51
Princeton Election Consortuim is also great: RedSpartan Sep 2012 #52
wow - throughout the day this has improved significantly - even Now cast. NRaleighLiberal Sep 2012 #5
you must be psychic! tomm2thumbs Sep 2012 #43
if so, I need to find a way to make some $$$ on such talent! NRaleighLiberal Sep 2012 #47
Plus 76.9% in the "Now-cast"... regnaD kciN Sep 2012 #6
Agree 100%. Was very glad to see that as well. RedSpartan Sep 2012 #7
What is Now-cast? Thx! Nt PCIntern Sep 2012 #9
That's the prediction of who would win if the election was held right now Marsala Sep 2012 #11
Has anyone thought that perhaps Karl Rove and the Koch Bothers INdemo Sep 2012 #13
WooHoo! applegrove Sep 2012 #14
Mandate, landslide, safeinOhio Sep 2012 #16
A girl can only dream...... kalli007 Sep 2012 #21
Obligatory intrade BumRushDaShow Sep 2012 #17
Does he forecast Senate and House races? OneGrassRoot Sep 2012 #18
I wish I could vote Democrat all the way! Kteachums Sep 2012 #22
Even a blue dog boosts the number of Dems vs. Republicans. gkhouston Sep 2012 #48
One Grass is right! thelarge Sep 2012 #19
If everybody gets your behinds out there and vote! Kteachums Sep 2012 #20
Post removed Post removed Sep 2012 #23
I have been watching Intrade and Romney's chances went down after the Republican Convention Quixote1818 Sep 2012 #24
Has Nate Silver ever been wrong? nt Quixote1818 Sep 2012 #25
It's hard to say since he puts everything in terms of probabilities. tclambert Sep 2012 #37
I guess the only state he missed in the last election was Indiana which Obama won by 1 point nt Quixote1818 Sep 2012 #38
Not only do we need to support Obama... tarheelsunc Sep 2012 #26
I get what you are saying, but could we please limit the truedelphi Sep 2012 #30
Polls are one thing... RoccoR5955 Sep 2012 #27
Obama's poll numbers sugggest his beggest supporters are among the youngest truedelphi Sep 2012 #31
they were back in '08 also RoccoR5955 Sep 2012 #41
We still need to work hard! Register people to vote and Get Out The Vote!!!!! LongTomH Sep 2012 #28
Does he calculate the probablity of Repub Secretaries of State and poll workers cheating?? Maineman Sep 2012 #29
Any links to what the upcoming elections might mean for the House though? After all if the cstanleytech Sep 2012 #34
Some bad news - his numbers just went down tomm2thumbs Sep 2012 #42
80.7% krawhitham Sep 2012 #44
I just saw that. GOOD NEWS! MNBrewer Sep 2012 #46
And today, electoral-vote.com has it 347-191... No DUplicitous DUpe Sep 2012 #49
This tends to happen when the other candidate hides all his views EdwardKingSolomon Sep 2012 #53

Doctor Jack

(3,072 posts)
2. Chuck Todd would call this "a toss up"
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 07:11 PM
Sep 2012

And then talk about how Obama is slipping with Southern white males between 55-57 named Steven.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
40. Yeah....
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 10:41 PM
Sep 2012

....he's the chubby goateed goof on MSNBC who's usually got a sour puss for having to hang out with a bunch of liberals.

flamingdem

(39,319 posts)
4. Inevitability is great, but let's not get lazy
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 07:18 PM
Sep 2012

there are tricks being pulled as we speak and we need congress or it'll be the same obstructionist crap

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
8. reverse logic-We should shout it aloud all day long-Obama has it won
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 07:53 PM
Sep 2012

Americans like a winner and a good number of people will flock to Obama if it is inevitable, because if one thinks it close, they may think Mitt got a chance. If they know Obama will win, they won't waste their vote on a losing Mitt. Thereby getting us more coattails and the house and senate


and Mitt won't steal states, because the people that steal elections are not running this time, but waiting for 2016.

flamingdem

(39,319 posts)
10. I agree the momentum is excellent and will help for sure with undecideds
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 08:10 PM
Sep 2012

I remember how many people got lazy in 2010, they need prodding, lots of lower ballot issues too

tclambert

(11,087 posts)
36. That's called the bandwagon effect.
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 08:54 PM
Sep 2012

It affects campaign donations, too. At some point, the Koch brothers will say, "This Romney guy is a waste of money." Well, maybe not the Kochs. They're nuts and too rich to notice the waste of a couple hundred million.

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
45. at some point, even billionaires come to their senses
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 07:22 AM
Sep 2012

one day Fox won't be Fox when Murdoch retires, as his heirs and stockholders will demand real profits be made, not a vanity production

the Koch brothers are the same, eventually enough will be enough and they will focus on 2014

in the end, these a hole billionaires need a return of their investment, it is all about the money after all

Did you see electoral-vote.com today
Rmoney down to 191 and Obama is up to 347 (that means 77 above the 270 needed)

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
51. this site has been accurate both in 04 and 08
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 10:18 PM
Sep 2012

the person behind the site is I think a professor living overseas who has done this the last 2 elections (2004 and 2008), at his own expense and his combining polls has been the single most correct of any of them.

What I really like now is how just recently electoral-vote.com started a rasmussen free look, which shows bad outliers from rasmussen(which skewers and is owned by a guy who works for Fox now).

(there is a link on the left showing that.)

And I like his commentary. He normally is not active in between auctions

NRaleighLiberal

(60,018 posts)
5. wow - throughout the day this has improved significantly - even Now cast.
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 07:21 PM
Sep 2012

my guess is that tomorrow/Monday we cross the 80% line.

Marsala

(2,090 posts)
11. That's the prediction of who would win if the election was held right now
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 08:22 PM
Sep 2012

It doesn't project into the future and account for possible changes.

Obama's Nowcast numbers would probably be even higher if we had more post-convention polling available.

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
13. Has anyone thought that perhaps Karl Rove and the Koch Bothers
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 09:20 PM
Sep 2012

could soon be pulling money away from Romney and concentrating more on the Senate and House races?..Winning the House back is not unreasonable thinking???
If you look at the electoral map Rmoney would have to sweep 8 toss up states to win assuming that Obama does not win VA. or Florida. 80%? I think that would be pretty accurate.

safeinOhio

(32,714 posts)
16. Mandate, landslide,
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 09:53 PM
Sep 2012

public support for liberal ideas, a swing to the left for the country, pissed off racist and homophobes.

BumRushDaShow

(129,370 posts)
17. Obligatory intrade
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 09:58 PM
Sep 2012

Barack Obama to be re-elected President in 2012
Event: 2012 Presidential Election Winner (Individual)

* 57.0%

Mitt Romney to be elected President in 2012
Event: 2012 Presidential Election Winner (Individual)

* 42.9%

OneGrassRoot

(22,920 posts)
18. Does he forecast Senate and House races?
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 08:39 AM
Sep 2012

I feel confident President Obama will be re-elected, but we need people to vote for the Democratic ticket all the way.

Kteachums

(331 posts)
22. I wish I could vote Democrat all the way!
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 10:42 AM
Sep 2012

I don't know about all the way. In WV we have Democrats that have sided against the President on many issues. I may just vote for him and leave the rest of the ballot blank. Our politicians are turning the state against Obama. Our political system in this state has always been ify. I know that we need Dems in office to help our President but, all Dems don't help him. Some oppose him. Remember the Blue Dogs of healthcare? It saddens me to have to say this.

gkhouston

(21,642 posts)
48. Even a blue dog boosts the number of Dems vs. Republicans.
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 09:16 AM
Sep 2012

Don't just think of what a yahoo you've got running as a Dem in your district... remember committee chairs will go to the party with the most members. In the words of a local Dem I used to know, "He may be a butt, be he's our butt."

 

thelarge

(23 posts)
19. One Grass is right!
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 09:34 AM
Sep 2012

Time for a sweep! Down ticket neocons will have to go in order for the economy to recover. They spend too much time and money on non-issues!

Kteachums

(331 posts)
20. If everybody gets your behinds out there and vote!
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 10:35 AM
Sep 2012

Don't believe this until the day comes when we can all celebrate. My grandmother used to say; "Don't count your chickens until they hatch". We will march to victory singing "Glory, glory, alleluia"!!!!!

Response to RedSpartan (Original post)

Quixote1818

(28,959 posts)
24. I have been watching Intrade and Romney's chances went down after the Republican Convention
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 01:40 PM
Sep 2012

and down even more after the Democratic Convention. They have Obama with a 58.2% chance to win right now.

tclambert

(11,087 posts)
37. It's hard to say since he puts everything in terms of probabilities.
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 09:10 PM
Sep 2012

If he ever went to 100% vs. 0%, then you could call him wrong. Giving an outcome as 80% probable means he still predicted either outcome COULD happen. How can you tell if he got the probabilities wrong when we end up with only one outcome? You'd have to compare the outcomes in 1,000 parallel universes.

tarheelsunc

(2,117 posts)
26. Not only do we need to support Obama...
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 02:13 PM
Sep 2012

but I believe the secret to this election is to publicize the Gary Johnson campaign. If he steals even 2% of votes from Romney, then we should lock up a lot of key states. No liberal would vote for him I'm sure, but a lot of the unsure conservatives may see him as a welcome change.

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
30. I get what you are saying, but could we please limit the
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 02:43 PM
Sep 2012

Use of the expression "steal" to the Republicans.

Third party candidates don't "Steal" votes. And the way the voting machinery is configured, the Dems won't be stealing votes either.

Better to say, that Johnson will capture votes from Romney than use the term the Republicans like to stick on Dems and others in terms of "stealing" the elections.

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
27. Polls are one thing...
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 02:23 PM
Sep 2012

We still have to get folks to the polls on Election day, to make SURE Obama wins.

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
31. Obama's poll numbers sugggest his beggest supporters are among the youngest
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 02:45 PM
Sep 2012

Voters - and that group is the least likely to show up on election day.

One way around this is to foster full "early voting mail in ballots" among all age groups in whatever area where you live.

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
41. they were back in '08 also
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 10:52 PM
Sep 2012

Just have to get them out to the polls.
I don't like vote by mail. There seems to be too many ways that the ballots could be filled out by someone other than the voter.

LongTomH

(8,636 posts)
28. We still need to work hard! Register people to vote and Get Out The Vote!!!!!
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 02:28 PM
Sep 2012

I'm doing voter registration every Saturday. I plan to work my ass off to GOTV in Oct and Nov.

cstanleytech

(26,317 posts)
34. Any links to what the upcoming elections might mean for the House though? After all if the
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 08:04 PM
Sep 2012

Republicans still control the House after the election I wouldnt put it past them to be vindictive and make a 2nd term for Obama even worse than they have done to him in his first even if it means hurting innocent people.

tomm2thumbs

(13,297 posts)
42. Some bad news - his numbers just went down
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 11:42 PM
Sep 2012

Romney's numbers that is.... Nate is now showing 80.7 to 19.3 !!

bwhahahaha

Lead-Brick Romney!

 
53. This tends to happen when the other candidate hides all his views
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 12:08 AM
Sep 2012

This tends to happen when the other candidate hides all his views

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