2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumNate Silver: Obama now almost at 80% win probability.
Current prediction: 316.9 EVs, 79.8% chance of winning:
http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/
Booster
(10,021 posts)tclambert
(11,087 posts)Booster
(10,021 posts)Doctor Jack
(3,072 posts)And then talk about how Obama is slipping with Southern white males between 55-57 named Steven.
flamingdem
(39,319 posts)where'd da horsey race go?
My masters will not be pleased.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,157 posts)Trying so hard to grow a chin.
SunSeeker
(51,659 posts)Yeah, him and Mitch McTurtle.
jonthebru
(1,034 posts)fleur-de-lisa
(14,628 posts)No, you should not know of him . . . he is a pus-bucket.
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)....he's the chubby goateed goof on MSNBC who's usually got a sour puss for having to hang out with a bunch of liberals.
flamingdem
(39,319 posts)there are tricks being pulled as we speak and we need congress or it'll be the same obstructionist crap
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)Americans like a winner and a good number of people will flock to Obama if it is inevitable, because if one thinks it close, they may think Mitt got a chance. If they know Obama will win, they won't waste their vote on a losing Mitt. Thereby getting us more coattails and the house and senate
and Mitt won't steal states, because the people that steal elections are not running this time, but waiting for 2016.
flamingdem
(39,319 posts)I remember how many people got lazy in 2010, they need prodding, lots of lower ballot issues too
tclambert
(11,087 posts)It affects campaign donations, too. At some point, the Koch brothers will say, "This Romney guy is a waste of money." Well, maybe not the Kochs. They're nuts and too rich to notice the waste of a couple hundred million.
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)one day Fox won't be Fox when Murdoch retires, as his heirs and stockholders will demand real profits be made, not a vanity production
the Koch brothers are the same, eventually enough will be enough and they will focus on 2014
in the end, these a hole billionaires need a return of their investment, it is all about the money after all
Did you see electoral-vote.com today
Rmoney down to 191 and Obama is up to 347 (that means 77 above the 270 needed)
tclambert
(11,087 posts)I check out http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/ and http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/2012_elections_electoral_college_map.html and http://www.270towin.com/
from time to time. http://electoral-vote.com/ is new to me.
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)the person behind the site is I think a professor living overseas who has done this the last 2 elections (2004 and 2008), at his own expense and his combining polls has been the single most correct of any of them.
What I really like now is how just recently electoral-vote.com started a rasmussen free look, which shows bad outliers from rasmussen(which skewers and is owned by a guy who works for Fox now).
(there is a link on the left showing that.)
And I like his commentary. He normally is not active in between auctions
RedSpartan
(1,693 posts)NRaleighLiberal
(60,018 posts)my guess is that tomorrow/Monday we cross the 80% line.
tomm2thumbs
(13,297 posts)NRaleighLiberal
(60,018 posts)regnaD kciN
(26,045 posts)...which, I'd argue, is potentially the more significant number.
RedSpartan
(1,693 posts)PCIntern
(25,576 posts)Marsala
(2,090 posts)It doesn't project into the future and account for possible changes.
Obama's Nowcast numbers would probably be even higher if we had more post-convention polling available.
INdemo
(6,994 posts)could soon be pulling money away from Romney and concentrating more on the Senate and House races?..Winning the House back is not unreasonable thinking???
If you look at the electoral map Rmoney would have to sweep 8 toss up states to win assuming that Obama does not win VA. or Florida. 80%? I think that would be pretty accurate.
applegrove
(118,759 posts)safeinOhio
(32,714 posts)public support for liberal ideas, a swing to the left for the country, pissed off racist and homophobes.
kalli007
(683 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,370 posts)Barack Obama to be re-elected President in 2012
Event: 2012 Presidential Election Winner (Individual)
* 57.0%
Mitt Romney to be elected President in 2012
Event: 2012 Presidential Election Winner (Individual)
* 42.9%
OneGrassRoot
(22,920 posts)I feel confident President Obama will be re-elected, but we need people to vote for the Democratic ticket all the way.
Kteachums
(331 posts)I don't know about all the way. In WV we have Democrats that have sided against the President on many issues. I may just vote for him and leave the rest of the ballot blank. Our politicians are turning the state against Obama. Our political system in this state has always been ify. I know that we need Dems in office to help our President but, all Dems don't help him. Some oppose him. Remember the Blue Dogs of healthcare? It saddens me to have to say this.
gkhouston
(21,642 posts)Don't just think of what a yahoo you've got running as a Dem in your district... remember committee chairs will go to the party with the most members. In the words of a local Dem I used to know, "He may be a butt, be he's our butt."
thelarge
(23 posts)Time for a sweep! Down ticket neocons will have to go in order for the economy to recover. They spend too much time and money on non-issues!
Kteachums
(331 posts)Don't believe this until the day comes when we can all celebrate. My grandmother used to say; "Don't count your chickens until they hatch". We will march to victory singing "Glory, glory, alleluia"!!!!!
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Quixote1818
(28,959 posts)and down even more after the Democratic Convention. They have Obama with a 58.2% chance to win right now.
Quixote1818
(28,959 posts)tclambert
(11,087 posts)If he ever went to 100% vs. 0%, then you could call him wrong. Giving an outcome as 80% probable means he still predicted either outcome COULD happen. How can you tell if he got the probabilities wrong when we end up with only one outcome? You'd have to compare the outcomes in 1,000 parallel universes.
Quixote1818
(28,959 posts)tarheelsunc
(2,117 posts)but I believe the secret to this election is to publicize the Gary Johnson campaign. If he steals even 2% of votes from Romney, then we should lock up a lot of key states. No liberal would vote for him I'm sure, but a lot of the unsure conservatives may see him as a welcome change.
truedelphi
(32,324 posts)Use of the expression "steal" to the Republicans.
Third party candidates don't "Steal" votes. And the way the voting machinery is configured, the Dems won't be stealing votes either.
Better to say, that Johnson will capture votes from Romney than use the term the Republicans like to stick on Dems and others in terms of "stealing" the elections.
RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)We still have to get folks to the polls on Election day, to make SURE Obama wins.
truedelphi
(32,324 posts)Voters - and that group is the least likely to show up on election day.
One way around this is to foster full "early voting mail in ballots" among all age groups in whatever area where you live.
RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)Just have to get them out to the polls.
I don't like vote by mail. There seems to be too many ways that the ballots could be filled out by someone other than the voter.
LongTomH
(8,636 posts)I'm doing voter registration every Saturday. I plan to work my ass off to GOTV in Oct and Nov.
Maineman
(854 posts)cstanleytech
(26,317 posts)Republicans still control the House after the election I wouldnt put it past them to be vindictive and make a 2nd term for Obama even worse than they have done to him in his first even if it means hurting innocent people.
tomm2thumbs
(13,297 posts)Romney's numbers that is.... Nate is now showing 80.7 to 19.3 !!
bwhahahaha
Lead-Brick Romney!
krawhitham
(4,647 posts)318.8 Electoral vote
MNBrewer
(8,462 posts)No DUplicitous DUpe
(2,994 posts)That's a jump from this past weekend. Lots of great data over there, too.
http://electoral-vote.com/
EdwardKingSolomon
(60 posts)This tends to happen when the other candidate hides all his views