2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumIt was the Data Systems vendor who reported the system error to the DNC.
"The DNC was notified on Wednesday by its data systems vendor NGP VAN that as a result of a software patch, all users on the system across Democratic campaigns were inadvertently able to access some data belonging to other campaigns for a brief window," said DNC communications director Luis Miranda."
The DNC then instructed the vendor to check for any suspicious users during the time period that the candidates private lists were exposed:
"The DNC immediately directed NGP VAN to conduct a thorough analysis to identify any users who accessed the data, what actions they took in the system, and to report on the findings to the Party and any affected campaign," Miranda said.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/12/bernie-sanders-clinton-data-breach-216926#ixzz3ufhIQSUi
The Sanders campaign did not report the error themselves, a check of users accessing the Data tipped the DNC off.
reddread
(6,896 posts)dont take an English major with a mystery novel emphasis to see where this shit comes from.
Thank you Mr Atwater!
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)through the seductive ways of the DNC.
MADem
(135,425 posts)candidate's data is not an honorable campaign.
Think Jimmy Carter's briefing book, and that sleazy George Will.
This is a big deal. And it has nothing to do with Atwater.
If you don't have larceny in your heart, you're not going to get into trouble, now, are you? See--THAT's where "this shit comes from."
The Sanders campaign needs to release the names of the others who accessed the material. So far, they are refusing to respond to repeated inquiries.
yardwork
(61,703 posts)I can't keep up!!!!
yardwork
(61,703 posts)Really, it would be more strategic to admit that Bernie's team cheated and got caught.
Blaming everybody else makes your candidate look, um, weak.
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)It's a desperate attempt to keep the data from Bernie.
The Clinton campaign's PTSD from losing Iowa and the entire 08 primary has been triggered.
They've gone full apeshit.
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)Last edited Fri Dec 18, 2015, 10:38 AM - Edit history (1)
rjsquirrel
(4,762 posts)Conspiracy theory bs.
So first every single polling agency in the country is in a grand conspiracy with eachother in order to deny Sanders the nomination and now a data breach that had led to the firing of one of Sander's staffers is the fault of him being too stupid not to see a trap. Do you people even hear yourselves? It's embarrassing.
hedda_foil
(16,375 posts)VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)That cover blown!
Cha
(297,589 posts)But, of course, BS's advocates are trying to spread it way differently... because you know bern's campaign could do no wrong.. even though they fired Josh Uketsky, his national data director.
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)Maybe the polls aren't skewed and he has picked all the low hanging fruit he can.
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)A Sanders staffer sees the bug, reports it to other staffers, they verify it and report it to their superior.
Their superior happens to be Josh Uretsky. Uretsky or another one of the staffers downloads a Clinton vote model file to test if the breach is real.
Uretsky cops to the whole mess and says nobody else was involved which is why the Sanders campaign is protecting their names.
The more I think about this the more I think it's nothing.
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)lingered where they weren't supposed to be. Regardless,I doubt Sanders will sit on this,I expect we'll hear from his campaign today.
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)I'd be interested if NGP VAN admits that the Sanders camp reported this or if there's a paper or email trail. If so that will come out, too.
tammywammy
(26,582 posts)The guy that was fired doesn't say they reported this last issue to the DNC or vendor. He says he was "testing" to see how much of Sanders stuff would be exposed and the DNC called him.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)Or did you just fail to read what this OP just said? It was purposeful
rjsquirrel
(4,762 posts)How we can make up the story we want to hear.
Samantha
(9,314 posts)and reported it then? This is the second round.
Sam
MADem
(135,425 posts)Sanders campaign say who they are?
Why won't they answer questions? It makes them look guilty when they don't come clean--name those names, and clarify this matter once and for all.
I don't think the DNC should allow them any access until they tell them who the others were.
It's interesting how the Sanders acolytes are fanning all over the internet trying to insist that THEY sounded the alarm, when that's apparently not the case...?
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)sufrommich
(22,871 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)This is truly something.
Not even in what staff did, but how the Sanders supporters process it.
tammywammy
(26,582 posts)First, I doubt Bernie himself would have known about this. And I don't think Bernie would approve of such behavior. Immediately firing the people upholds that this is unacceptable behavior.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)Sanders is not giving it up, at this point, from what I understand.
Hey, and really, I have no huge issue with this but the shifting of blame and vilifying.
tammywammy
(26,582 posts)So then the Sanders campaign would be forced to look at Clinton's data.
Or something like that is the current conspiracy I've been reading.
mcar
(42,372 posts)Everything is Hillary's fault.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)when you've watched the very same people who scoffed and laughed at those who whined about skewed polls in 2012 make the same exact claims themselves this year. You would think they'd be embarrassed but apparently not.
Tarc
(10,476 posts)Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)book_worm
(15,951 posts)Bobbie Jo
(14,341 posts)w4rma
(31,700 posts)floriduck
(2,262 posts)It wasn't a big deal when Sanders data was exposed because he dealt with the vendor, instead of crying to the media. It could have been a DNC setup. I can see how Hill would arrange something like that.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Gothmog
(145,530 posts)Thanks for posting
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)The staffer fired was data director Josh Uretsky. But a DNC official said the access was actually undertaken by multiple Sanders staffers.
I do believe that this was more involved than that one staffer who was filed.
And then there is this:
The DNC has informed the Sanders camp that it will grant it access to the data file once again after it can explain what happened and prove that its deleted the Clinton data, said a party official. It has also ordered up a full review of NGP VAN's systems and is considering an external, independent audit as well.
Sounds like a reasonable solution to me.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Oh I was under the impression that the Sanders campaign discovered and turned in the info and perp.
Guess not.
hmm.....