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sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 07:42 AM Dec 2015

It was the Data Systems vendor who reported the system error to the DNC.

"The DNC was notified on Wednesday by its data systems vendor NGP VAN that as a result of a software patch, all users on the system across Democratic campaigns were inadvertently able to access some data belonging to other campaigns for a brief window," said DNC communications director Luis Miranda."



The DNC then instructed the vendor to check for any suspicious users during the time period that the candidates private lists were exposed:


"The DNC immediately directed NGP VAN to conduct a thorough analysis to identify any users who accessed the data, what actions they took in the system, and to report on the findings to the Party and any affected campaign," Miranda said.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/12/bernie-sanders-clinton-data-breach-216926#ixzz3ufhIQSUi



The Sanders campaign did not report the error themselves, a check of users accessing the Data tipped the DNC off.

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It was the Data Systems vendor who reported the system error to the DNC. (Original Post) sufrommich Dec 2015 OP
high tech honey trap from a campaign with server issues at their heart reddread Dec 2015 #1
Right. The Sanders campaign must be led like a child sufrommich Dec 2015 #2
Please--any campaign that is so stupid that they can be "enticed" into stealing another MADem Dec 2015 #11
I thought Lee Atwater was dead, is it his fault now?! yardwork Dec 2015 #17
If Bernie can be tricked so easily, how will he handle China? yardwork Dec 2015 #15
We all see that CoffeeCat Dec 2015 #20
duplicate/delete (eom) CoffeeCat Dec 2015 #23
Lol sure rjsquirrel Dec 2015 #32
LOL leftynyc Dec 2015 #35
Honey trap was the first thing I thought of when I heard about it. hedda_foil Dec 2015 #40
Ooops VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #3
The Sanders campaign did not report the error themselves, a check of users accessing the Data tipped Cha Dec 2015 #4
Doesn't Bernie get enough names from his mega events? upaloopa Dec 2015 #5
I think I am piecing this together now. joshcryer Dec 2015 #6
My guess is that they can see how long someone sufrommich Dec 2015 #7
Yeah, it'll become clearer as the day goes by. joshcryer Dec 2015 #8
If the Sanders campaign reported it months ago, they'll have proof tammywammy Dec 2015 #22
did you see this just in your head? VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #27
Funny rjsquirrel Dec 2015 #33
Did you happen to see on other threads the Sanders' campaign had discovered this months earlier Samantha Dec 2015 #42
What were the names of the three who were NOT fired? And why won't the MADem Dec 2015 #9
I'll bet we know much more by the end of the day. nt sufrommich Dec 2015 #10
So, Sanders people did someting wrong. One gets fired. Clinton gets blamed and vilified? Weird. Nt. seabeyond Dec 2015 #12
Right? sufrommich Dec 2015 #13
They have yet to name three others. They've been asked, repeatedly. I wonder why? nt MADem Dec 2015 #14
I was told firing the one made Sanders integrity itself. They have been asked repeatedly, huh? seabeyond Dec 2015 #16
I think immediately firing does show some integrity tammywammy Dec 2015 #26
One out of four was fired. Regardless of being repeatedly ask for the other 3 names, seabeyond Dec 2015 #38
Apparently DWS told the vendor to leave the firewall down tammywammy Dec 2015 #25
Par for DU's course mcar Dec 2015 #30
Not so weird leftynyc Dec 2015 #36
The Sandernistas are confused by facts Tarc Dec 2015 #18
Suspicious users? What does that even mean? Ed Suspicious Dec 2015 #19
Just think of the outrage it would be on DU if it had been the Clinton campaign. book_worm Dec 2015 #21
Off the hook. nt Bobbie Jo Dec 2015 #24
"Our campaign months ago alerted the DNC to the fact that campaign data was being made available" w4rma Dec 2015 #28
Sounds like a piss poor data vendor employed by the DNC. floriduck Dec 2015 #29
Wowzer. JaneyVee Dec 2015 #31
These are important facts in this story Gothmog Dec 2015 #34
Also from same article: Skidmore Dec 2015 #37
The Sanders campaign did not report the error themselves workinclasszero Dec 2015 #39
That's a lie told by a liar who is working for a liar who is working for another liar. nt mhatrw Dec 2015 #41
 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
1. high tech honey trap from a campaign with server issues at their heart
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 07:52 AM
Dec 2015

dont take an English major with a mystery novel emphasis to see where this shit comes from.
Thank you Mr Atwater!

MADem

(135,425 posts)
11. Please--any campaign that is so stupid that they can be "enticed" into stealing another
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 08:40 AM
Dec 2015

candidate's data is not an honorable campaign.

Think Jimmy Carter's briefing book, and that sleazy George Will.

This is a big deal. And it has nothing to do with Atwater.

If you don't have larceny in your heart, you're not going to get into trouble, now, are you? See--THAT's where "this shit comes from."

The Sanders campaign needs to release the names of the others who accessed the material. So far, they are refusing to respond to repeated inquiries.

yardwork

(61,703 posts)
15. If Bernie can be tricked so easily, how will he handle China?
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 09:28 AM
Dec 2015

Really, it would be more strategic to admit that Bernie's team cheated and got caught.

Blaming everybody else makes your candidate look, um, weak.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
20. We all see that
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 10:01 AM
Dec 2015

It's a desperate attempt to keep the data from Bernie.

The Clinton campaign's PTSD from losing Iowa and the entire 08 primary has been triggered.

They've gone full apeshit.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
35. LOL
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 10:54 AM
Dec 2015

So first every single polling agency in the country is in a grand conspiracy with eachother in order to deny Sanders the nomination and now a data breach that had led to the firing of one of Sander's staffers is the fault of him being too stupid not to see a trap. Do you people even hear yourselves? It's embarrassing.

Cha

(297,589 posts)
4. The Sanders campaign did not report the error themselves, a check of users accessing the Data tipped
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 08:08 AM
Dec 2015
the DNC off."

But, of course, BS's advocates are trying to spread it way differently... because you know bern's campaign could do no wrong.. even though they fired Josh Uketsky, his national data director.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
5. Doesn't Bernie get enough names from his mega events?
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 08:14 AM
Dec 2015

Maybe the polls aren't skewed and he has picked all the low hanging fruit he can.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
6. I think I am piecing this together now.
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 08:19 AM
Dec 2015

A Sanders staffer sees the bug, reports it to other staffers, they verify it and report it to their superior.

Their superior happens to be Josh Uretsky. Uretsky or another one of the staffers downloads a Clinton vote model file to test if the breach is real.

Uretsky cops to the whole mess and says nobody else was involved which is why the Sanders campaign is protecting their names.

The more I think about this the more I think it's nothing.

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
7. My guess is that they can see how long someone
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 08:25 AM
Dec 2015

lingered where they weren't supposed to be. Regardless,I doubt Sanders will sit on this,I expect we'll hear from his campaign today.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
8. Yeah, it'll become clearer as the day goes by.
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 08:31 AM
Dec 2015

I'd be interested if NGP VAN admits that the Sanders camp reported this or if there's a paper or email trail. If so that will come out, too.

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
22. If the Sanders campaign reported it months ago, they'll have proof
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 10:05 AM
Dec 2015

The guy that was fired doesn't say they reported this last issue to the DNC or vendor. He says he was "testing" to see how much of Sanders stuff would be exposed and the DNC called him.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
27. did you see this just in your head?
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 10:10 AM
Dec 2015

Or did you just fail to read what this OP just said? It was purposeful

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
42. Did you happen to see on other threads the Sanders' campaign had discovered this months earlier
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 03:40 PM
Dec 2015

and reported it then? This is the second round.

Sam

MADem

(135,425 posts)
9. What were the names of the three who were NOT fired? And why won't the
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 08:36 AM
Dec 2015

Sanders campaign say who they are?

Why won't they answer questions? It makes them look guilty when they don't come clean--name those names, and clarify this matter once and for all.

I don't think the DNC should allow them any access until they tell them who the others were.

It's interesting how the Sanders acolytes are fanning all over the internet trying to insist that THEY sounded the alarm, when that's apparently not the case...?

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
12. So, Sanders people did someting wrong. One gets fired. Clinton gets blamed and vilified? Weird. Nt.
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 08:42 AM
Dec 2015
 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
16. I was told firing the one made Sanders integrity itself. They have been asked repeatedly, huh?
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 09:28 AM
Dec 2015

This is truly something.

Not even in what staff did, but how the Sanders supporters process it.

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
26. I think immediately firing does show some integrity
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 10:10 AM
Dec 2015

First, I doubt Bernie himself would have known about this. And I don't think Bernie would approve of such behavior. Immediately firing the people upholds that this is unacceptable behavior.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
38. One out of four was fired. Regardless of being repeatedly ask for the other 3 names,
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:31 AM
Dec 2015

Sanders is not giving it up, at this point, from what I understand.

Hey, and really, I have no huge issue with this but the shifting of blame and vilifying.

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
25. Apparently DWS told the vendor to leave the firewall down
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 10:08 AM
Dec 2015

So then the Sanders campaign would be forced to look at Clinton's data.

Or something like that is the current conspiracy I've been reading.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
36. Not so weird
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 10:56 AM
Dec 2015

when you've watched the very same people who scoffed and laughed at those who whined about skewed polls in 2012 make the same exact claims themselves this year. You would think they'd be embarrassed but apparently not.

 

floriduck

(2,262 posts)
29. Sounds like a piss poor data vendor employed by the DNC.
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 10:30 AM
Dec 2015

It wasn't a big deal when Sanders data was exposed because he dealt with the vendor, instead of crying to the media. It could have been a DNC setup. I can see how Hill would arrange something like that.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
37. Also from same article:
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 10:59 AM
Dec 2015
The staffer fired was data director Josh Uretsky. But a DNC official said the access was actually undertaken by multiple Sanders staffers.


I do believe that this was more involved than that one staffer who was filed.

And then there is this:

The DNC has informed the Sanders camp that it will grant it access to the data file once again after it can explain what happened and prove that it’s deleted the Clinton data, said a party official. It has also ordered up a full review of NGP VAN's systems and is considering an external, independent audit as well.


Sounds like a reasonable solution to me.
 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
39. The Sanders campaign did not report the error themselves
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:35 AM
Dec 2015
a check of users accessing the Data tipped the DNC off.

Oh I was under the impression that the Sanders campaign discovered and turned in the info and perp.

Guess not.

hmm.....
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