2016 Postmortem

boston bean

(36,223 posts) Fri Dec 18, 2015, 09:46 AM Dec 2015

Everyday brings forth a new way of thinking.

Ones I pretty much reject on their face.

I don't believe the media, who hates Hillary, is in the bag for her.

I don't believe the DNC is in cahoots with the Media to "shove Hillary down our throats".

I don't believe that Black Lives Matters is a arm of the Clinton campaign to make Bernie look bad.

I don't believe the media is blacking Bernie out to help Hillary. He's on media shows day in and day out and on the largely viewed political talks shows almost every single weekend.

I don't believe pollsters are skewing polls in Hillary's favor and that they all need to be unskewed to favor Bernie.

I don't believe that feverishly clicking in online polls that show Bernie winning these online polls bolsters the case that traditional, scientific polling is wrong, all in order to pump up Hillary.

I don't believe that Time chose Angela Merkel as Time's person of the year to hurt Bernie and help Hillary.

I don't believe that DWS who scheduled 6 debates, before even Bernie or Hillary announced was done to give a leg up to one over the other.

And today a new meme exists... I don't believe the DNC (who we can add according to the above, by extension Hillary) baited Bernie and his campaign staff to access Hillary's campaign information so they could hurt Bernie's campaign, cause they are just so AFRAID of him.

You add all this type of thinking and I begin to question what value is there in this type of thinking. None, as far as I can see. It all seems pretty far fetched when one actually puts all this stuff together. A pattern begins to emerge and it is not one based in reality, imho.

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Everyday brings forth a new way of thinking. (Original Post) boston bean Dec 2015 OP

You are clearly a VERY complex thinker. nt Bonobo Dec 2015 #1

You're about 40% correct, Ron Green Dec 2015 #2

I don't agree with conspiracy tyheories eitehr. But I do believe.... Armstead Dec 2015 #3

Bonobo

(29,257 posts)

1. You are clearly a VERY complex thinker. nt

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Fri Dec 18, 2015, 09:48 AM

Dec 2015

Ron Green

(9,823 posts)

2. You're about 40% correct,

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Fri Dec 18, 2015, 09:56 AM

Dec 2015

I believe.

Armstead

(47,803 posts)

3. I don't agree with conspiracy tyheories eitehr. But I do believe....

Reply to boston bean (Original post)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 09:56 AM

Dec 2015

that the Conventional Wisdom Machine -- both in the political and media elite -- are geared up to defeat anyone who stands outside of their narrow thinking and does not fall into the template they agree upon at their swanky cocktail parties and meetings of the "message of the day."

I do believe the media are shallow and sensationalist and driven by ratings and clicks. When Clinton's e-mail fuckup was sensational, they pounded on it. But when the sensational aspects were burned out they moved on. They loves their GOP Trump Steel Cage Death Match because it fits their reality TV template, so that's what they focus on. They loves their Terror 24/7 story because it's sensationalist. The decline of the middle class is more complex.

I do believe they are lazy. Clinton is the prefabricated pre-approved nominee. The idea that some irascible populist who has overcome the stereotypes and actually gains strong support without the help of banksters, billionaires and big business requires them to actually do their homework and do some thinking outside of the box. Sop they don't bother. They fall back on the template of "oh he can't win because we have not been covering him for decades."

I do believe polls and media coverage create self-fulfilling prophecies. It causes people to think the leader is the nomionee, or blips become trends.

Etc.

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