for discovering it.

He should be given a raise if he is such a hero.

fall on the sword for the team.

He didn't fall on a sword for the team, he was fired for cause.

Fuck them

To Bernie's campaign and his supporters, after all.

ITs on them. As for the other, my autocorrect hates me.

all thefts are "on" the candy store? Not quite.

Nor is it okay for people to steal packages that UPS puts in view of the street.

wanted someone else to try it to make sure that it was really possible. The supervisor did what he was supposed to do. He had been reporting that other campaigns could access Sanders private data on the system, but the DNC never did anything about it for months. The DNC never did anything until they accessed HRC's data and reported it.

That was the one fired.

I'm getting dizzy!

Once again. Tell me how the recipient of mega-bucks from villainous financial institutions can proclaim they've got only the common folks welfare in mind?

They were specifically looking at her senior supporters in New Hampshire. What a coincidence. The pages were just shown on MSNBC. What do you call that? I call it stealing but I'm old fashioned about some things.

That's what happens when candidates are 68 and 74, I guess.

Almost 40 year olds are babies.

Never take responsibility for mistakes.

And reported it. DWS response? Punish them anyway.

#resigndebbie

How many more people were involved in the Sanders campaign. Let's see the National Data Directors emails. Took responsibility. They are scrambling to pass the buck.

...when you allow a bunch of gung ho amateurs to run your campaign. Is it a question of judgement by Bernie that he DID allow it? Does the buck stop with him?

I feel sympathy for Bernie, but some of his supporters are off the wall and he should have recognized it.

Starting with DWS and working on down.

None of that equates to any proof of actually having used any of the data for the purpose of soliciting contributions or request for volunteering or anything of that nature. You don't know what you're talking about and I do because this is my area of expertise. I suggest you stop posting on the matter until you actually learn something about how it all works.

....that I understand this a thousand times better than you. Wallow in your ignorance of the topic all you want. I'm still right and you are powerless to change that

There was no theft. None of the data was used to benefit the Sanders campaign. The DNC knew that this vendor had issues. In the fact that Debbie Wasserman Schultz family is involved with this company at the highest levels is the most damning thing about this entire story.

Must be be true!

#resigndebbie

The vendor reported the issue to the DNC. The guy that was fired said the DNC called him, not the other way around.

data the campaign was never supposed to access, even if access is accidentally granted.


I have never in my three decade IT Management and Consulting career read any third party outsourcing agreement that did not have this clause in the contract.

Never.

I have literally read hundreds of such contracts.

You can not steal something just because someone let the item vulnerable. THey knew what they were looking at and they knew they weren't supposed to look.

And they still stole the data.

I always knew there was something about Sanders I didn't like. I questioned his character from the beginning.

REALLY?

This scandal solidifies that.

I find your opinion ironic in light of the fact that Hillary's character and trustworthiness are frequently questioned based on ginned-up "scandals."

You just don't like the answer.



Oh well, the answer is in the post you responded to.

answer MY question about you with your response.

It's not up to me to answer your question in the way you wanted.

Sorry, I've fallen for alert traps before, not happening this time.

a flame war with you. My time is more precious than that.

But, in light of your ironic willingness to tar Bernie over a ginned-up scandal, you might consider changing your sig line: Any Democrat for President, 2016.

There's no worries about Sanders being the nominee, especially after his campaign engaged in such nefarious activities.

So, so, SO ironic.

So, so, SO TRUE!

It's a third rate burglary, like another I remember from 1972.

Bernie is a good person with great strength of character and it's not his fault that someone on his staff accessed the information.

Your unscrupulous accusations betray your desperation in knowing the fact that Hillary is far behind Bernie when it comes to strength of character issues.

This is precisely why Bernie is the better choice and why he will win.

IT is my opinion that Bernie Sanders is NOT a good person and is completely lacking in character.

I am entitled to that opinion of the man, just as I was entitled to that opinion of Edwards when he first emerged on the scene in 2004.

Your opinion of Bernie is merely a reflection of your own character shortcomings and is totally lacking in intellectual honesty. It makes you appear buffoonish; much like Donald Trump.

Clear as glass.

I've got three hides on my record for questioning the character of Sanders.

And this scandal proves those hides unwarranted.

As someone else said, you are just spouting off BS to exploit a technical mishap. And speaking of technical mishaps, a lot of us Sanders supporters give Hillary the benefit of the doubt on the cooked up email bullshit. If you had any principles at all you'd do the same.

of one of her Staffers. Even with Bernie's gracious pass, it's still very much alive at the FBI level.

And no one has touched The Clinton Foundation in any real investigative way. Lots left to come. From Broke to multi millionaires in what, 20-25 years while living a very high lifestyle with multiple mansions, etc.

Keep on SPINNIN'!

you replied is on my IL, I cannot see the post that prompted this reply. But, since I sat on a jury after "someone" alerted on this reply, I thought you might be interested in the results:

What are you basing that on?

My first impression of him.

I will not go into further depth than that as I've been hidden for doing so on three separate occasions.

I have had a positive impression of him for years, long before he decided to run for President.

You put it into words for me. I questioned your character from the beginning, from your deceptive style. And I'll take the hide if I have to. Hidden posts attract readers.

so he could show that he was able to improperly get access -- because he was so worried that other campaigns might access Sanders data.



http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251909206

moobu2 on Obama:
" I’ve never voted for anyone who wasn’t a democrat, and never will. I just wont vote this year if Barrack is the nominee, seriously, I would die before I’d ever cast a vote for that fake. No one in my house will vote for him either. He cant win the GE anyway. What a waste of a perfect chance to take back the Wh."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5847315

This year, it's Bernie you criticize. I wonder if those who agree with you agree about Barack as well, I sure as fuck don't. A fake, you call the President a fake and a waste of a nomination. Twice elected at this point. How wrong can a person be and still draw their next breath?

about the security or lack of it.

I have seen software so lacking in security that it would show another persons and companies data just by mistyping a number. Being logged in as a person from one company and seeing another companies customers by transposing an account number is not security. Although some feeble minded courts have been ok with it.

I have a question about the term "Dropping the firewall". That scares me. One groups login authentication level should never let them access another data. That should be the core of it. That tells me that someone who is on the other side of "the firewall" has access to everyones data no matter what their login is.

that has been debunked...

Our campaign months ago alerted the DNC to the fact that campaign data was being made available to other campaigns. At that time our campaign did not run to the media, relying instead on assurances from the vendor.”

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/18/democrats-punish-bernie-sanders-campaign-following-clinton-data-breach

it.

are discussing on MSNBC now.Reported two months ago.

I had the same thought.

which reflected huge margins for Sanders seemingly validating all those "unscientific" online polls that also reflect the same huge margins in favor of Sanders.

Desperation move, try to crate a scandal...ANY scandal (a) just prior to the next debate (so the media can hit Sanders with wild accusations), and (b) on a Friday so it's carried through the weekend (what a coincidence).

I am more convinced thatn ever that Bernie has this primary election in the bag and Clinton folks know it.

I tuned into MSNBC and this was what they were talking about. I rushed over to DU to find out what's going on. I think you are absolutely correct.

"convenient". Like Bill Press said, I smell a rat.

You come close tto engaging in dirty tricks when you blame the Clinton campaign for the Sander's campaign malfeasance.

And ya'll aren't taking it very well. Schadenfreude big time.

If you play the "It was a setup" card, then you must admit Sanders campaign so incompetent that they fell for. it. Too incompetent for the GE, not to mention the WH

and the vendors CEO was Clinton's 2008's CTO. Ass DWS and her DNC and you can take it to the bank that it's dirty trick to slow Bernie's momentum.

This one is simple. Release all of the National Data Directors emails.

Amirite?

Same standard for both candidates, right?

Very weak way to not commit to making an accusation while making one. Definition of the "do you beat your wife" argument.

meet the same standard, right?

Please show your proof that Clinton has done what Sanders has. He needs to release his National Data Directors emails immediately.

This is strange. You want Clinton to do something because of the nefarious actions of the Sanders campaign. Definition of what I said above. Pass the Buck. Doesn't make as good of an argument as you think.

Clinton data was exposed to Sanders staffers, and Sanders data was exposed to Clinton staffers.

The DNC is insisting the Sanders campaign "prove" that any data was deleted...without any evidence that data was actually downloaded. The fact that this is impossible to prove seems to not have occurred to them, or more likely is being used as a pretext to block access.

It's reasonable to ask the other group who had access to meet the same standard. Which means the Clinton campaign would need to prove nothing had been downloaded and if anything had, it has been deleted.

Blame the person that places honesty above risk of being blamed, and they will pile on you at EVERY opportunity!

#resigndebbie

Attack a candidate on their strengths.

Hillary and DWS, not so much.

Can you make an argument that doesn't sound like we're in high school when discussing any of this?

Silly question.

Rovian....? Rove... Turd Blossom?....... Turd WAY????

I dunnOH-oh...

I'll give you points for that!

...blame your opponent when you get caught with your hand in the cookie jar. Shame on you!

.... Gee... timing is not only in comedy, but in blaming your opponent.

The DNC owns the cookie store. Shame on THEM!

Sander's campaign staffers just stole proprietary data from the Clinton campaign and shared it.

I can see why the Clinton supporters here on DU might need to do that.

Hey... you want interpret this as the DNC's negligence, rather than willful incompetence? Sure, you go right ahead... It's obvious you want it so badly to be that way. The DNC would NEVER care if the vendor was incompetent, would they? Even if they were alerted in October... so they're only negligent for scratching their heads about this for two months.

Sure they are...

Feel superior to accuse the Sander's campaign at the same time of theft? You go right ahead. Knock yourself out.

I'll put the integrity and honesty of the Sander's campaign way ahead of the the DNC, who right now can't keep up with all of those phone calls from way more people than me. Hell... I've been at work all day. I have to see if they finally fixed the phones.

Somebody has some explaining to do to the American public. Meanwhile, you're satisfied because it fits your ideology.