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AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 02:08 PM Dec 2015

Fired Sanders aide: I wasn't peeking at Clinton data files

CNN)The Bernie Sanders campaign staffer who was fired for accessing data unique to the Hillary Clinton campaign's vote file, told CNN on Friday that he was only trying to "understand how badly the Sanders campaign's data was exposed" and not attempting to take data from the Clinton campaign.

"We knew there was a security breach in the data, and we were just trying to understand it and what was happening," said Josh Uretsky, reached by phone on Friday morning, a day after the campaign let him go.

He added, "To the best of my knowledge, nobody took anything that would have given the (Sanders) campaign any benefit."
http://edition.cnn.com/2015/12/18/politics/sanders-dnc-data-breach-josh-uretsky/index.html

And it turns out the owner of the company doing the security is Hillary's ex IT guy....the plot thickens and the worms are spilling forth. Ol Blinky has a lot of splainin' to do.

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Fired Sanders aide: I wasn't peeking at Clinton data files (Original Post) AgingAmerican Dec 2015 OP
If this is a Hillary stunt Politicalboi Dec 2015 #1
Uretsky LIED!!! MohRokTah Dec 2015 #2
If this is true, it's the end of Bernie's campign: Cali_Democrat Dec 2015 #4
Don't count on it. highprincipleswork Dec 2015 #7
The campaign is declaring war on the DNC. MohRokTah Dec 2015 #9
Just stop it. The aide was fired. So stop. Matariki Dec 2015 #22
At least THREE MORE AIDES MUST BE FIRED!!! MohRokTah Dec 2015 #23
ALL CAPS!!!1!! Matariki Dec 2015 #24
What records? The records claimed by an anonymous Clinton source? Autumn Dec 2015 #8
The database access records. MohRokTah Dec 2015 #12
What's important is I know how anonymous sources smear, I mean work. Autumn Dec 2015 #15
ABC has reported they have the "smoking gun" (aka database access records) IN HAND! MohRokTah Dec 2015 #16
Good on ABC. Nice to see that they can actually investigate and report Autumn Dec 2015 #17
In another thread, I said I smelled set up. Hepburn Dec 2015 #3
In the end UglyGreed Dec 2015 #5
I smell set up. Hepburn Dec 2015 #10
Bernie is finally getting some media attention and Hillary/DWS are going to end up with giant thereismore Dec 2015 #27
ABC says they have a smoking gun. JaneyVee Dec 2015 #6
They said they could see multiple accesses of the data by the Bernie Sanders campain. moobu2 Dec 2015 #13
Then why would multiple staffers access the data and record it? moobu2 Dec 2015 #11
You forgot the next sentence where he admitted to downloading. Renew Deal Dec 2015 #14
Wow. What a deceptive, out of context post. merrily Dec 2015 #19
Nothing deceptive Renew Deal Dec 2015 #20
Posting one sentence out of context is deceptive. And what downloading are you talking about? merrily Dec 2015 #21
That's what "creating a record" means. Renew Deal Dec 2015 #26
Remind me WHY he said he created a record. And he said over and over that they were merrily Dec 2015 #32
The record he was making was in the NBG-VAN itself. IF this is all you have, you have nothing. Vincardog Dec 2015 #28
I've been saying from the beginning that the story is very little more than nothing. Renew Deal Dec 2015 #29
To be clear, creating a record in the VAN does not involve downloading anything. Vincardog Dec 2015 #30
Yet you had to post something trying to make it seem like more than it is. merrily Dec 2015 #34
Link? Renew Deal Dec 2015 #35
Links, plural, all from this very thread. What a disingenuous request! merrily Dec 2015 #36
Where is the part where I am "making it seem like more?" Renew Deal Dec 2015 #37
Why was he fired. You are saying it is bigger than we know? nt. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #18
help me understand d_r Dec 2015 #25
Clinton database was open to his account, that he could access these data from his own account. His Vincardog Dec 2015 #33
doesn't seem much to get fired up about nt d_r Dec 2015 #39
Bernie's campaign reported it to the DNC. Debbie W. Shultz cut of Bernie's access to the Vincardog Dec 2015 #41
The old "We accuse you of what we have doing all along!" trick mhatrw Dec 2015 #31
I think Hillary's list is a lot smaller than Bernie's Blulady Dec 2015 #38
Lies in the OP article only makes things worse for Bernie Campaign Sheepshank Dec 2015 #40
 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
4. If this is true, it's the end of Bernie's campign:
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 02:14 PM
Dec 2015
summary of computer logs show that four aides to Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders' presidential campaign accessed proprietary voter data compiled by the campaign of rival Hillary Clinton.

And the records also show that the aides conducted 25 separate searches of voter information and some saved the results.
 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
9. The campaign is declaring war on the DNC.
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 02:16 PM
Dec 2015

Time for Sanders' name to be pulled from the ballots if he doesn't stop this shit immediately.

He comes in as an outsider and the first thing they do is complain about the rules.

Then they break the rules and blame the party.

Typical crap from Sanders.

Matariki

(18,775 posts)
22. Just stop it. The aide was fired. So stop.
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 02:33 PM
Dec 2015

Not that you will.

I really hope Sanders wins the primary just to watch how Clinton's peeps on DU deal with it. Well, that's not the main reason to hope he wins, but it will be an amusing side effect.

Matariki

(18,775 posts)
24. ALL CAPS!!!1!!
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 02:37 PM
Dec 2015

And they probably will be if there was actual wrong doing. Sanders is, if anything, extremely ethical.

YOU are very biased and/or employed by Clinton's campaign, so nothing you say - CAPS!!!1! notwithstanding - can be taken seriously regarding Senator Sanders.

Autumn

(45,120 posts)
15. What's important is I know how anonymous sources smear, I mean work.
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 02:22 PM
Dec 2015

As for IT the Bernie group has several IT workers and they have explained it in detail in the group. Whereas your link was just an anonymous whatever... that explained and proved NOTHING. Nada. Zip. Ziltch. Nothing. Now I'm off and out of GDP. Have a nice day

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
16. ABC has reported they have the "smoking gun" (aka database access records) IN HAND!
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 02:24 PM
Dec 2015

So when is Sanders going to fire the other three miscreants?

Autumn

(45,120 posts)
17. Good on ABC. Nice to see that they can actually investigate and report
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 02:27 PM
Dec 2015
Or would that be read off the DNC's script? It very well could be, you know how the media in this country is.

Now seriously Moh, you have a delightful day I'm off to enjoy this lovely weather.

Hepburn

(21,054 posts)
3. In another thread, I said I smelled set up.
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 02:14 PM
Dec 2015

And this fits right in with what I am thinking.

Too convenient, too coincidental.

Hepburn

(21,054 posts)
10. I smell set up.
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 02:16 PM
Dec 2015

I practiced law for a long time and the two things that seemed to happen when someone was being set up: Too convenient and too coincidental.

If this BS does not fit both of those categories!

thereismore

(13,326 posts)
27. Bernie is finally getting some media attention and Hillary/DWS are going to end up with giant
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 02:46 PM
Dec 2015

turds on their faces.

Renew Deal

(81,871 posts)
14. You forgot the next sentence where he admitted to downloading.
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 02:19 PM
Dec 2015
Uretsky says he got into the system to create a record to make it clear to anyone with NBG-VAN knowledge that he was "going through stuff that I wasn't supposed to have access to."

http://www.wmur.com/politics/fired-sanders-aide-i-wasnt-peeking-at-clinton-data-files/37026958

merrily

(45,251 posts)
19. Wow. What a deceptive, out of context post.
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 02:30 PM
Dec 2015
He added, "To the best of my knowledge, nobody took anything that would have given the (Sanders) campaign any benefit."

.......

"We investigated it for a short period of time to see the scope of the Sanders campaign's exposure and then the breach was shut down presumably by the vendor," he said. "We did not gain any material benefit."


.........


"This wasn't the first time we identified a bad breach," he said, confirming to CNN that the Sanders campaign reported another breach to the DNC in October. "We reported it to them. They thanked us for reporting it and they told us the breach had been closed."

"In retrospect, I got a little panicky because our data was totally exposed, too," Uretsky said of how he handled the latest breach. " We had to have an assessment, and understand of how broad the exposure was and I had to document it so that I could try to calm down and think about what actually happened so that I could figure out how to protect our stuff."


And he created a record to make it clear what he had done. Good heavens, I don't know how anyone can fault this.


Renew Deal

(81,871 posts)
20. Nothing deceptive
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 02:32 PM
Dec 2015

It all goes together. But the OP was that they didn't look at the files and that's just not true.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
21. Posting one sentence out of context is deceptive. And what downloading are you talking about?
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 02:33 PM
Dec 2015

I don't see a thing in that story about downloading.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
32. Remind me WHY he said he created a record. And he said over and over that they were
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 02:59 PM
Dec 2015

trying to determine the security of Sanders data and took nothing that would have advantaged the Sanders's campaign. This is bs. Not to mention that Hillary's guy is responsible for the breach and for not taking care of it when the Sanders campaign reported it. This story reeks.

Vincardog

(20,234 posts)
28. The record he was making was in the NBG-VAN itself. IF this is all you have, you have nothing.
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 02:51 PM
Dec 2015

Uretsky says he got into the system to create a record to make it clear to anyone with NBG-VAN knowledge that he was "going through stuff that I wasn't supposed to have access to."

NGP-VAN is the technology company that provides campaigns access to the voter files.

The point: He wanted people with knowledge of the voter files to be able to clearly see that he was testing the depth of the breach.

"This wasn't the first time we identified a bad breach," he said, confirming to CNN that the Sanders campaign reported another breach to the DNC in October. "We reported it to them. They thanked us for reporting it and they told us the breach had been closed."

"In retrospect, I got a little panicky because our data was totally exposed, too," Uretsky said of how he handled the latest breach. " We had to have an assessment, and understand of how broad the exposure was and I had to document it so that I could try to calm down and think about what actually happened so that I could figure out how to protect our stuff

Renew Deal

(81,871 posts)
29. I've been saying from the beginning that the story is very little more than nothing.
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 02:53 PM
Dec 2015

The whole thing is a giant over-reaction.

Renew Deal

(81,871 posts)
37. Where is the part where I am "making it seem like more?"
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 03:16 PM
Dec 2015

I corrected two factual errors without passing judgement. Both link to information with no comment from me.

d_r

(6,907 posts)
25. help me understand
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 02:40 PM
Dec 2015

Do I have this right-
The DNC "rents" data to both the Sanders and Clinton campaign.
Do they keep the data on the same servers?
Did this guy use his log on he had been assigned and have access to the data?
Or did he steal someone else's password or crack another login? or did he some how hack in to the root of the system?

From what I'm reading, it sounds like the Clinton database was open to his account, that he could access these data from his own account.

Vincardog

(20,234 posts)
33. Clinton database was open to his account, that he could access these data from his own account. His
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 02:59 PM
Dec 2015

Concern was that Sander's data was also available to anyone as well.

Vincardog

(20,234 posts)
41. Bernie's campaign reported it to the DNC. Debbie W. Shultz cut of Bernie's access to the
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 07:33 PM
Dec 2015

Data his campaign put into his own data base.
They didn't take the whole thing down for a security review.
They didn't take anyone else's access away.
They just tried to cripple Bernie's campaign 6 weeks before the IA caucuses.

That is the big deal.

Right when Bernie needs to start calling and firming up his supporters they pull his list of addresses and phone numbers.

mhatrw

(10,786 posts)
31. The old "We accuse you of what we have doing all along!" trick
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 02:57 PM
Dec 2015

Does anyone here actually believe that the DNClinton did not have full access rights to Sanders' data?

 

Blulady

(9 posts)
38. I think Hillary's list is a lot smaller than Bernie's
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 03:50 PM
Dec 2015

I began receiving requests for donations about 6 weeks ago from DNC, DCCC and Hillary.
Before the incursion I did not receive these requests.

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