2016 Postmortem

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts) Fri Dec 18, 2015, 02:23 PM Dec 2015

New Occam's Razor: you don't go to federal court if you don't have evidence.

In addition to working in data security, I spent the first 13 years of my professional ife covering court as a reporter. This issue is right up my alley.

See you in court, Debbie!

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New Occam's Razor: you don't go to federal court if you don't have evidence. (Original Post) Fawke Em Dec 2015 OP

Jeff Weaver was pretty fired up at the DNC who seem pretty incompetent in terms of protecting data. EndElectoral Dec 2015 #1

Hey, Fawle, I am marking this thread Hepburn Dec 2015 #2

Thanks! Fawke Em Dec 2015 #5

In your vast professional experience, did you ever encounter the meaning of Occam's Razor? Buzz Clik Dec 2015 #3

It was in response to another thread by that name. Fawke Em Dec 2015 #7

Ok -- the Occam thing was in another context. Nevermind. Buzz Clik Dec 2015 #10

Exactly. Either the software was allowing people access to something they shouldn't have access to.. phleshdef Dec 2015 #4

Frivolous suits get filed every day in court hack89 Dec 2015 #6

Very rarely does an entity of national stature risk the very thing Fawke Em Dec 2015 #8

Desperate people do desperate things. Nt hack89 Dec 2015 #9

Desperate people like Debbie Wassermann-Schultz? closeupready Dec 2015 #12

He aint going to court. Bluster. boston bean Dec 2015 #11

I'm assuming he will if the DNC doesn't restore access to their own info. Fawke Em Dec 2015 #13

Well, the order for injunctive relief (as I called it above) has been filed. Fawke Em Dec 2015 #15

When the dust settles and the truth comes out panader0 Dec 2015 #14

EndElectoral

(4,213 posts)

1. Jeff Weaver was pretty fired up at the DNC who seem pretty incompetent in terms of protecting data.

Reply to Fawke Em (Original post)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 02:25 PM

Dec 2015

Hepburn

(21,054 posts)

2. Hey, Fawle, I am marking this thread

Reply to Fawke Em (Original post)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 02:26 PM

Dec 2015

You have the expertise...pls keep us posted. And, as a retired atty, I know you don't go to a Feddie judge unless the ducks are in a row.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)

5. Thanks!

Reply to Hepburn (Reply #2)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 02:49 PM

Dec 2015

I saw that Weaver also said they gave a password-protected (encrypted) file to the DNC regarding the October incident. That will go a long way toward proving their point.

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)

3. In your vast professional experience, did you ever encounter the meaning of Occam's Razor?

Reply to Fawke Em (Original post)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 02:29 PM

Dec 2015

Granted, yours is the NEW Occam's Razor, but it's like replacing a recently deceased pet with a bag of marshmallows: both have a function but are completely unrelated.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)

7. It was in response to another thread by that name.

Reply to Buzz Clik (Reply #3)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 02:52 PM

Dec 2015

And, honestly, the real Occam's Razor is this: why would the Sanders campaign report their own hack if they meant to be malicious?

The answer to that is the easiest answer about who's telling the truth, which is the definition of Occam's Razor.

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)

10. Ok -- the Occam thing was in another context. Nevermind.

Reply to Fawke Em (Reply #7)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 03:15 PM

Dec 2015

phleshdef

(11,936 posts)

4. Exactly. Either the software was allowing people access to something they shouldn't have access to..

Reply to Fawke Em (Original post)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 02:30 PM

Dec 2015

...or none of this ever happened. And we know it happened, so the former is a guaranteed fact.

hack89

(39,171 posts)

6. Frivolous suits get filed every day in court

Reply to Fawke Em (Original post)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 02:51 PM

Dec 2015

you can't be that naive.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)

8. Very rarely does an entity of national stature risk the very thing

Reply to hack89 (Reply #6)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 02:54 PM

Dec 2015

its running on - its reputation - to file a frivolous lawsuit. You can't be that naive, yourself.

Besides, it technically won't be a lawsuit, it will be an injunctive relief.

http://dictionary.law.com/Default.aspx?selected=963