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2016 Postmortem

riversedge

(70,299 posts) Fri Dec 18, 2015, 02:43 PM Dec 2015

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guess you can say we made copies of Clinton data... says Josh Uretsky --on msnbc right now

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guess you can say we made copies of Clinton data... says Josh Uretsky --on msnbc right now (Original Post) riversedge Dec 2015 OP

yet says he did not do anything about it. riversedge Dec 2015 #1

Good God. And yet they double down,what the hell sufrommich Dec 2015 #2

Weaver did more than double down. He was yelling and agitated . Not good optics riversedge Dec 2015 #15

He is a fool for talking to the media. Agschmid Dec 2015 #3

He needs to shut up now. For his own sake. MeNMyVolt Dec 2015 #7

Yup. Agschmid Dec 2015 #8

yes, riversedge Dec 2015 #12

What kind of idiots workinclasszero Dec 2015 #13

There is no way to know what a person will do in the future. arthritisR_US Dec 2015 #30

that was pretty astonishing in its blitheness tishaLA Dec 2015 #4

did you hear josh say that also? riversedge Dec 2015 #6

yup. nt tishaLA Dec 2015 #18

more than a smoking gun riversedge Dec 2015 #19

The smoking gun. JaneyVee Dec 2015 #5

He seems pretty naive --and just keeps talking riversedge Dec 2015 #9

Lawyer up son workinclasszero Dec 2015 #10

Andrea mitchell is giving Sanders camp too much credit. riversedge Dec 2015 #22

He's not helping ... NurseJackie Dec 2015 #11

Camp Tinfoil will be along in a few minutes. Just wait. KittyWampus Dec 2015 #14

LOL Cali_Democrat Dec 2015 #17

3...2...1... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #28

This guy needs to shut up for his own good. They are out of control. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #16

Then according to VAN, he found another exploit. Since VAN says it's impossible to do that. jeff47 Dec 2015 #20

Yes RandySF Dec 2015 #26

You're doing a fantastic job of making up very bad analogies today jeff47 Dec 2015 #27

and your team is just doing badly... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #29

You explained that extremely well Samantha Dec 2015 #31

Uhm... kenfrequed Dec 2015 #21

screen capture could do that but probably not useful for saving stuff in bulk nt msongs Dec 2015 #23

Print Screen button. Easy as that. -nt- Happenstance24 Dec 2015 #24

Hmmm kenfrequed Dec 2015 #25

riversedge

(70,299 posts)

1. yet says he did not do anything about it.

Reply to riversedge (Original post)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 02:44 PM

Dec 2015

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)

2. Good God. And yet they double down,what the hell

Reply to riversedge (Original post)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 02:45 PM

Dec 2015

are they thinking?

riversedge

(70,299 posts)

15. Weaver did more than double down. He was yelling and agitated . Not good optics

Reply to sufrommich (Reply #2)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 02:49 PM

Dec 2015

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)

3. He is a fool for talking to the media.

Reply to riversedge (Original post)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 02:45 PM

Dec 2015

If I were in his shoes I would not be talking, even if I did do nothing wrong.

MeNMyVolt

(1,095 posts)

7. He needs to shut up now. For his own sake.

Reply to Agschmid (Reply #3)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 02:47 PM

Dec 2015

And lawyer up.

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)

8. Yup.

Reply to MeNMyVolt (Reply #7)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 02:47 PM

Dec 2015

riversedge

(70,299 posts)

12. yes,

Reply to MeNMyVolt (Reply #7)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 02:48 PM

Dec 2015

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)

13. What kind of idiots

Reply to MeNMyVolt (Reply #7)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 02:48 PM

Dec 2015

Did Sanders hire anyway?

arthritisR_US

(7,291 posts)

30. There is no way to know what a person will do in the future.

Reply to workinclasszero (Reply #13)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 03:49 PM

Dec 2015

As campaigns change and gain momentum some people's zealousness overtakes them. Predicting behaviour is is no easy task.

tishaLA

(14,176 posts)

4. that was pretty astonishing in its blitheness

Reply to riversedge (Original post)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 02:46 PM

Dec 2015

riversedge

(70,299 posts)

6. did you hear josh say that also?

Reply to tishaLA (Reply #4)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 02:47 PM

Dec 2015

tishaLA

(14,176 posts)

18. yup. nt

Reply to riversedge (Reply #6)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 02:53 PM

Dec 2015

riversedge

(70,299 posts)

19. more than a smoking gun

Reply to tishaLA (Reply #18)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 02:54 PM

Dec 2015

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)

5. The smoking gun.

Reply to riversedge (Original post)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 02:46 PM

Dec 2015

riversedge

(70,299 posts)

9. He seems pretty naive --and just keeps talking

Reply to JaneyVee (Reply #5)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 02:48 PM

Dec 2015

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)

10. Lawyer up son

Reply to riversedge (Original post)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 02:48 PM

Dec 2015

You stepped in it bigtime!

riversedge

(70,299 posts)

22. Andrea mitchell is giving Sanders camp too much credit.

Reply to workinclasszero (Reply #10)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 02:55 PM

Dec 2015

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)

11. He's not helping ...

Reply to riversedge (Original post)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 02:48 PM

Dec 2015

... how long before someone accuses him of being a Hillary operative?

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)

14. Camp Tinfoil will be along in a few minutes. Just wait.

Reply to NurseJackie (Reply #11)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 02:49 PM

Dec 2015

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)

17. LOL

Reply to KittyWampus (Reply #14)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 02:52 PM

Dec 2015

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)

28. 3...2...1...

Reply to KittyWampus (Reply #14)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 03:13 PM

Dec 2015

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)

16. This guy needs to shut up for his own good. They are out of control.

Reply to riversedge (Original post)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 02:50 PM

Dec 2015

This is a true implosion.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)

20. Then according to VAN, he found another exploit. Since VAN says it's impossible to do that.

Reply to riversedge (Original post)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 02:55 PM

Dec 2015

http://blog.ngpvan.com/news/data-security-and-privacy

On Wednesday morning, there was a release of VAN code. Unfortunately, it contained a bug. For a brief window, the voter data that is always searchable across campaigns in VoteBuilder included client scores it should not have, on a specific part of the VAN system. So for voters that a user already had access to, that user was able to search by and view (but not export or save or act on) some attributes that came from another campaign.

RandySF

(59,186 posts)

26. Yes

Reply to jeff47 (Reply #20)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 03:08 PM

Dec 2015

Don't blame the arsonist. Blame the man for building a wood house.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)

27. You're doing a fantastic job of making up very bad analogies today

Reply to RandySF (Reply #26)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 03:12 PM

Dec 2015

The entirety of the claims against the Sanders campaign is based on what the vendor says. The vendor says they accessed records. The vendor says they can not save records. The claim from the DNC is that they saved records.

So the vendor has to be lying in at least one of its statements. Yet you're accepting their contradictory claims as true.

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)

29. and your team is just doing badly...

Reply to jeff47 (Reply #27)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 03:14 PM

Dec 2015

In a matter of hours...this whole thing has blown up in their faces!

a whole long subthread was created to harrass me because I called it implausible in less than 3 minutes...

and yet...I was absolutely correct!

Samantha

(9,314 posts)

31. You explained that extremely well

Reply to jeff47 (Reply #20)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 03:54 PM

Dec 2015

Thank you very much.

Sam

kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)

21. Uhm...

Reply to riversedge (Original post)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 02:55 PM

Dec 2015

This is idiotic.

The software vendor itself says that it isn't possible to save data from their database onto a computer.

Please explain to me how this guy made copies of Clinton Data.

msongs

(67,438 posts)

23. screen capture could do that but probably not useful for saving stuff in bulk nt

Reply to kenfrequed (Reply #21)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 03:03 PM

Dec 2015

Happenstance24

(193 posts)

24. Print Screen button. Easy as that. -nt-

Reply to kenfrequed (Reply #21)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 03:03 PM

Dec 2015

kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)

25. Hmmm

Reply to Happenstance24 (Reply #24)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 03:04 PM

Dec 2015

Interesting, and who are you speaking on behalf of?

And I mean that in every possible way.

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