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DNC Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman-Schultz is so incompetent and so compromised that she has no credibility to be asking anyone to do anything.

Clinton and DWS are going to so alienate Sanders supporters if they keep this fiasco brewing that even if by some miracle Mrs. Clinton still gets the nomination, she will be a sure loser in the general election.

She's a disgrace - there is zero credibility that she's anything but fully in hrc camp. DWS/DNC is going to seriously continue to piss people off to the point where they won't vote hrc out of spite.

DWS has a history of working to get Republicans elected while at the DNC.

Because that's exactly what the Sanders campaign called for at the press conference.

all caused by a "low level staffer," she has good reason not to trust him.

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This she did not do. It is in the agreement affixed to the legal filing Sanders' lawyer made today. I think he just might get his data back soon.

Sam

And secondly, no one forced the Bernie campaign to enter into the site mill around and steal data...that's all part of their own poor integrity.

of the Sanders campaign, which apparently they haven't been given.

The Sanders campaign did NOT inform the DNC or the vendor about the breach. The vendor was informed by a third party and then, after investigating, went to Uretsky.

And the vendor says they have no evidence of any other campaign abusing the vulnerability.

control over? Just do the audit. What's the holdup?

data, they should be able to easily track that down. Right down to the specific user who did initiated the export.

and another is whether the stolen data was used for any purpose.

This can't be determined by merely looking at x's and o's.

that a company paid to provide data security which provided the opposite merely made a mistake. This is similar to saying that the contractor paid to add a room to your house who instead demolished it just made a small mistake and is very obviously qualified to continue and deserving of all payments, not to be inspected nor questioned. Ever. Don't care for that at all. The vendor is at fault, Debbie hired the vendor, thus far the only person to hold anyone to account is Bernie Sanders. Deb seems to be playing advocate for the company that actually fucked us all over, and that is skeevie dank doings. Do not care for that.
Yes, people leave their door unlocked but security people are paid to lock the door, they are not people forgetting they are professionals being negligent when they do not secure the door. DWS is steamrolling over that fact and protecting the people who did not do their jobs. She should not be advocating for the vendor, and asserting their negligence to be some minor error. They are being paid for this. She asks me for money, and gives it to them. Not good.

Does that mean the thief is not guilty? Bernie needs to turn over the computers and prove his staff wasn't hacking. Simple.

happened and who is at fault.

Maybe you don't understand how data bases work. They keep logs of everything that happens.

Bernie doesn't need to turn over anything.

retains their position in spite of a very basic failure in their duties. Why is that? Why is massive negligence and ineptitude being called a mistake? This ineptitude is what allowed this entire thing to happen. Assuming the vendor to be innocent is not acceptable, and seeing the vendor have the advocacy of DWS who suggests that they are not really responsible for security and paid to provide it but are more like you when you forget to lock the garage one night. That is dishonest as can be. This vendor should have been held to stern account. That has not happened. Bernie instantly fired his staff member who may have taken advantage of the breach but the people who created the breach while being paid to lock the door are still in charge of locking the door. It's not acceptable.

People know they would be fired for such a failure. So when they see massive failures coddled they smell something foul, special treatment and kid gloves dealings. Double standards. Can't abide them and will not abide them.

Also K&R

That would be a reason to avoid an audit.

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...if that's true, what should be the consequence?

Even if the alarm was faulty, the crooks are still robbing the house!!

Why not turn over the computers and staff for an investigation (unless there really was a hack)?

data security lies? Hint is with the DBA's and the VENDOR not ANY USER.

....

.....What was accessed

Two senior Democrats familiar with the program and the investigation told CNN that the Sanders campaign accessed turnout projections for Iowa caucuses and the New Hampshire primary, a key piece of strategy the Clinton campaign has been working on with modeling and analytics.

The Sanders team, which consisted of four people, ran multiple searches in Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada, South Carolina and about 10 March states, including Florida and Colorado. In Iowa and New Hampshire, the Clinton campaign has ranked voters on a scale of 1-100 for turnout, enthusiasm and support, the senior Democrats said. The Sanders campaign ran two searches: "Show me all the Clinton people rated higher than 60" and "Show me all the people rated less than 30." This would be a key way of knowing who Sanders should target in the final weeks before voting: Ignore those above 60, while focus on those below 30, because they are looking for a Clinton alternative and might be open to Sanders.

The investigation into what information was lifted should only take a few days as there are audit logs and trails of the activity, which took place beginning around 10:40 a.m. and lasting for about 40 minutes, the senior Democrats said.

They added that the Clinton campaign views this as a big deal but will not say so publicly because it will fan the flames of liberal groups trying to fight with the DNC.

In a statement released Friday afternoon, the Clinton campaign called for the Sanders campaign and the DNC to "work expeditiously to ensure that our data is not in the Sanders campaign's account and that the Sanders campaign only have access to their own data."................


http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/18/politics/bernie-sanders-campaign-dnc-suspension/index.html

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The fault lies with the vender not the request.

questions. The lid was off the cookie jar and in they went.
Now you can say it was the fault of the vendor that door was open--yes it was. But the Sanders staff knew they should not be searching the opponents data base. It was morally wrong to do so.


.....What was accessed

Two senior Democrats familiar with the program and the investigation told CNN that the Sanders campaign accessed turnout projections for Iowa caucuses and the New Hampshire primary, a key piece of strategy the Clinton campaign has been working on with modeling and analytics.

The Sanders team, which consisted of four people, ran multiple searches in Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada, South Carolina and about 10 March states, including Florida and Colorado. In Iowa and New Hampshire, the Clinton campaign has ranked voters on a scale of 1-100 for turnout, enthusiasm and support, the senior Democrats said. The Sanders campaign ran two searches: "Show me all the Clinton people rated higher than 60" and "Show me all the people rated less than 30." This would be a key way of knowing who Sanders should target in the final weeks before voting: Ignore those above 60, while focus on those below 30, because they are looking for a Clinton alternative and might be open to Sanders.

The investigation into what information was lifted should only take a few days as there are audit logs and trails of the activity, which took place beginning around 10:40 a.m. and lasting for about 40 minutes, the senior Democrats said.

They added that the Clinton campaign views this as a big deal but will not say so publicly because it will fan the flames of liberal groups trying to fight with the DNC.

In a statement released Friday afternoon, the Clinton campaign called for the Sanders campaign and the DNC to "work expeditiously to ensure that our data is not in the Sanders campaign's account and that the Sanders campaign only have access to their own data."................


http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/18/politics/bernie-sanders-campaign-dnc-suspension/index.html

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/12/18/sanders-campaign-disciplined-for-breaching-clinton-data/

That would be DWS flunkies already in the tank for Mrs. Clinton?

Yeah.

Spell check does some weird things. Lol

Who does the independent audit or someone in the background.....?

DWS has Zero Credibility

and young people with passion.

When it's their top computer guy and he's 39.

I think Bernie needs to do some house keeping and get rid of some of his advisers. Whoever is telling him to put this all on Clinton, and play the victim here is not doing him any favors. If they investigate and find out how high up this went, it could be very bad for Bernie. He should take charge and clean house. I like Bernie, but he needs to stop listening to those who are giving him crappy advice.

If DWS said the sky was blue, I'd look out a window and check.

and that nothing was saved.

But it was their top computer guy, a 39 year old professional, and both NBC and ABC say database logs show that dozens of searches were saved.

If Weaver said the sky was blue I'd have to check.

Also, I agree with the analogy that just because someone left their house door unlocked doesnt mean stealing stuff from inside the house is ok.

Haul her ass into court and let her try to spew this crap to a judge when the DNC are in default in the contract

1. How can they provide a compete audit for what they did when their access to the system has been cut off. The vendor already has the data for what they accessed. So to a significant degree, this is smoke.

2. They fired the ring leader. He's been good enough to talk to the media but if I were his friend, I'd be telling him to shut up and get a lawyer. So that part of the audit is likely about to dry up.

I would require of the DNC:

1. An independent audit by an auditor agreeable to the Sanders campaign (not one of the big accounting firms giving Hillary $200,000 for a luncheon chat) and that audit must also cover and identify to the media the campaign who breached Sanders DNC data in October

2. The campaign who breached Sanders data in October must be suspended from any further access to the DNC data because they obviously were stealing it.

3. The DNC must refund half of the $120,000 fees to Sanders for this October breach as a contractal cure because they have failed to even attempt under the contract to fully cure the data breach 8 weeks later.

Something like that would be my response to DWS along with suggestion that maybe she should update her resume. She's not going to be employed long after Nov '16 in her present capacity if she lasts that long.

If the DNC do not comply, then the Sanders campaign will sue the DNC, Clinton campaign, etc for damages and the Sanders campaign will have no choice but to run as an independent because Bernie is not getting a fair shake from the DNC ... which means Hillary aspirations for the White House are effectively over because she cannot win with Bernie in the contest - he does better against the GOP than she does.

Let DWS and the DNC and Hillary chew on that. I bet they'll be begging for concessions, etc.

Be Presidential Bernie - kick the crap out of these folks!!!

stole Sanders information. Weavers was merely insinuating that because of the previous glitch it could have happened, so maybe it did.

(~ 30 second mark)
"We're actually very confident that some of our data was lost to one of the other campaigns"
(2 months ago was time frame given earlier in the video)

and young people with passion.

Not their top computer guy, who happens to be 39.

But you're right -- he seems to be making that assertion. But he hasn't backed it up with anything more than bluster.

He's supposed to pull all the evidence they've got on the October breach and present it to the media during a hastily called press conference because their access has been cut off?

I think your expectations are way too high.

Secondly, I haven't seen anything established that he's lied about anything.

And he was backed up by the employee (data director - pretty high up in their IT department) they fired who also complained of previous breaches of their DNC system in the same time frame to other members of the media in his interviews today. He's already lost his job. Why should he lie for Bernie? He sounded pretty darn forthright.

Stand tall, Bernie.

You are on the right side of history.

the DNC wants an independent audit too, so the only thing left is for the two to agree on who will do the audit!

From everything I've read, what REALLY NEEDS TO BE DONE is to fire the current tecch group and hire a competent one!

....and previously, too.

of the vendor's work.

security breach that caused this magnitude of damage should be terminated. When I was responsible for the MIT Dept. of the Co. I worked for, I had NO TOLERANCE for security breaches of any kind! Why do you think most web sites will notify their users "The site will be down from 3AM to 5AM for maintenance? The time needed is immaterial, and it's usually chosen when the need for the information is very low. TS that the techies have to work the odd hours of the AM!

I read on some web site yesterday that this group has worked for the DNC for quite a few years and has had many problems in the past too. I guess this is yet another reason that many gov't operations have problems that don't occur in the private sector. In the private sector, you lose your job, in gov't, once you have made you friends, you're secure for life, no matter what!

he wont have to take Democratic supporters contribution in his fit to fund his campaign, either, withdrawing the 600K a day threat.