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Related: About this forumA suggestion for Bernie supporters
Heres a real suggestion for Bernie supporters.
Pledge to stay at home on ekection day unless the DNC plays fair with Bernie.
Simple.
If they REALLY care more about beating the GOP than backing a specific candidate then they'll back down and let the primary play out relatively fairly.
Because honestly if this is how the DNC is going to behave, I want NO part of their chosen candidates.
valerief
(53,235 posts)earthside
(6,960 posts)Like Bill Press said, "I smell a rat."
I think the biases of chair Wasserman-Schultz and the DNC is so obvious that if Wasserman-Schultz doesn't resign and if the committee doesn't rectify this fiasco in very short order then a lot of Sanders supporters will never, never vote for Mrs. Clinton -- never.
EdwardBernays
(3,343 posts)You're right.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)sufrommich
(22,871 posts)And not one a Clinton supporter.
Paulie
(8,462 posts)this corrupt system we have is all we get. I'm voting for the ham sandwich with a D and pray my kids have a chance to live in a non handsmaid tale world.
EdwardBernays
(3,343 posts)That your hope may be misplaced.
Sadly.
Is a cruel playmate
EdwardBernays
(3,343 posts)Vinca
(50,279 posts)Or maybe we can support Deez Nuts instead.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)I'm guessing you'll be banned as soon as admins notice this one unless you're quick on the delete button.
EdwardBernays
(3,343 posts)Then I get banned
Gregorian
(23,867 posts)There is just waaaay to much to lose. 5/4 put Bush in; Reagan. Huge damage to basically the New Deal.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)??
It would ONLY help the GOP is the DNC chose destroying Bernie over beating the GOP.
I'd support the DNC candidate if they keep the primaries fair.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)What would be the point? He has almost no chance of winning regardless. Looks like its all going to be over on super Tuesday. What the motivation? I dont get it.
NanceGreggs
(27,815 posts)According to some here, Hillary - the clear and undisputed front-runner - colluded with DWS and the DNC to "set up" the BS campaign knowing it could potentially destroy not only her front-runner status, but her bid for the nomination and the presidency.
Makes so much sense, right?
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)EdwardBernays
(3,343 posts)Unless you are paranoid to think that people like Robert Reich are simply spreading anti-Hillary lies.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)EdwardBernays
(3,343 posts)Is the only thing you know about Trump then maybe you'd have a point.
You might as well compare him to Stalin. I mean they both had noses.
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)Andy823
(11,495 posts)Always threading to do something if he isn't treated "fairly". Not voting is bullshit, and trying to spread the meme is also bullshit.
EdwardBernays
(3,343 posts)And aside from voting how would you make a political party know what you want? What other leverage do you have?
And Pretending that my options are either Hillary or the GOP candidate is exactly the mindset that got us here in the first place.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)... I don't pledges. Ever. For anyone.
AND, I always vote. Always. Who gets my vote is my option and for that, I listen to my conscience.
I don't KNOWINGLY vote for lying, corrupt, manipulative cheaters. EVER. There are better options.
EdwardBernays
(3,343 posts)In this case.
Be happy to hear suggestions.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)I suggest you think outside the establishment box.
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)Bernie supporters are activists and activists NEVER stay home on election day.
EdwardBernays
(3,343 posts)Activists do all sorts of things for their cause.
And of course I'd happily vote if the DNC stops this crap.
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)the rights other fought and died for. I've never met an activist who said they will sit out an election. Ever. You're pulling this out of your ass. I hope you're on MIRT's radar for this.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)what we have. Besides those threats don't bother the DNC because they don't care if a Republicon wins as long as a progressive doesn't win. Show up and vote for a Democrat.
EdwardBernays
(3,343 posts)If we always succumb to simply voting for the least crap candidate we'll always still end up with a crap candidate.
I'd rather not support a crap candidate.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Response to EdwardBernays (Original post)
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PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)I ask for clarification because at least one person is seriously confused or just feigning complete ignorance as an excuse to allow this violation of TOS to stand.
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Ummm...advocating not voting for the Democratic candidate and staying home? Please hide this nonsense.
You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Fri Dec 18, 2015, 05:27 PM, and the Jury voted 3-4 to LEAVE IT.
Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: I'm voting to hide this because I agree. I'm sick of this PUMA bullshit. We need a Democrat in the White House. Elections matter. This site is here to promote Democrats, not rally supporters of a single candidate to sit out because they didn't get their way. Nope. Hide this and don't allow such nonsense.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: SO - opinions are no longer allowed on DU? Where's the exit?
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Poster doesn't specify whether they're talking about the Primary or GE. I will assume they're talking about the primary and vote to leave. In fact after re-reading it is clear that poster is speaking about the Primary. It's stupid, but I think it should be left as an example of the ignorance of some posters here
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rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)don't like. Not very Democratic.
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)mythology
(9,527 posts)Sanders isn't being mistreated. His team fucked up and then threw a hissy fit about it. If they had just admitted it, said here's how we're going to fix it" this would have been over by lunch time. Instead they stomp their feet and huff and puff. They elected to obfuscate and say it was a low level staffer when it turns out it was four staffers, one their data lead, and another high level staffer who took steps to hide what he was doing.
You can stay at home if you want. But in the end, you're only going to hurt yourself. Not everything is some great big conspiracy to get Sanders.
Yes if they had just accidentally breached the data and immediately pulled out, it was nothing. The DNC didn't make the Sanders team screw this pooch. They did it all to themselves. Likewise Florida and Michigan weren't screwed by having their delegate counts halved in 2008. There are rules set out. Play by them or don't. But if you don't, you don't get to whine about getting your hand slapped.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)dirty tricks to make sure they get someone in office they can control.
Two sides to this class war and Sen Sanders is on the side of the 99%.
ChimpersMcSmirkers
(3,328 posts)I'm a Hillary supporter. I don't love her, I just want a winner that can place some SCOTUS appointments.
I'm almost 50. I see what millennials have to deal with and have a lot of sympathy. They've drawn the short stick in many ways.
With that said, if a GOP candidate wins, I'll probably get a decent tax cut. I don't need it or really want it, but there it is.
For a millennial, I don't think you're going to quite get that benefit.
If you all want to Bern it down, that's your prerogative. My point is only that that attitude is just a cutting off your own nose. Yeah, maybe after a really bad GOP presidency it'll all magically change, but probably not. Imagine a 7-3 or 8-2 SCOTUS.
Depaysement
(1,835 posts)Your plan may not be the best option.