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EdwardBernays

(3,343 posts)
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 08:37 PM Dec 2015

A suggestion for Bernie supporters

Heres a real suggestion for Bernie supporters.

Pledge to stay at home on ekection day unless the DNC plays fair with Bernie.

Simple.

If they REALLY care more about beating the GOP than backing a specific candidate then they'll back down and let the primary play out relatively fairly.

Because honestly if this is how the DNC is going to behave, I want NO part of their chosen candidates.

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A suggestion for Bernie supporters (Original Post) EdwardBernays Dec 2015 OP
Good lord, how the hell did you escape my Forever Ignored list? nt valerief Dec 2015 #1
+1 Hepburn Dec 2015 #4
A 'pledge' isn't going to be necessary. earthside Dec 2015 #2
I hope EdwardBernays Dec 2015 #5
+10,000 nt Live and Learn Dec 2015 #33
PUMAs,PUMAs everywhere. sufrommich Dec 2015 #3
No thanks. Paulie Dec 2015 #6
I'd suggest EdwardBernays Dec 2015 #8
Hope Paulie Dec 2015 #9
Indeed. EdwardBernays Dec 2015 #10
There's always the opportunity to write in a candidate. Vinca Dec 2015 #7
A longtime site user got banned simply for posting text from another of these 'pledge' diaries. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Dec 2015 #11
If I get banned EdwardBernays Dec 2015 #14
I semi-fascetiously said I'd write Bernie in, but I'll fend of Idiocracy by voting for Clinton. Gregorian Dec 2015 #12
That would help the GOP candidate... Is that what you want?? DCBob Dec 2015 #13
No EdwardBernays Dec 2015 #16
There is absolutely no reason for the DNC to "destroy" Bernie. DCBob Dec 2015 #20
Exactlly on point. NanceGreggs Dec 2015 #42
Right. The definition of fair for Sanders seems to be his rules..... Nt. seabeyond Dec 2015 #15
No EdwardBernays Dec 2015 #17
Yes. Every step of his way this campaign, he has complained about being picked on even when in wrong seabeyond Dec 2015 #21
If that EdwardBernays Dec 2015 #26
That's fucking stupid. PeaceNikki Dec 2015 #18
Sound like Trump Andy823 Dec 2015 #19
It's not a meme EdwardBernays Dec 2015 #23
I hear what you are saying, and completely agree with your reasons why, BUT... 99Forever Dec 2015 #22
Not sure what they are EdwardBernays Dec 2015 #24
TOS expressly forbids talking about them. 99Forever Dec 2015 #27
How stupid. Le Taz Hot Dec 2015 #25
Not true EdwardBernays Dec 2015 #29
What they don't do is throw away Le Taz Hot Dec 2015 #35
I don't like pledges to stay home. We don't have much of a democracy any more but we must use rhett o rick Dec 2015 #28
That's not good enough for me anymore EdwardBernays Dec 2015 #30
I didn't say who you should vote for. nm rhett o rick Dec 2015 #37
Post removed Post removed Dec 2015 #31
To which "ekection" (SIC) day are you referring? The GE? PeaceNikki Dec 2015 #32
Apparently some believe that instead of debating issues they should hide those that they rhett o rick Dec 2015 #38
Your concern has been noted. PeaceNikki Dec 2015 #40
I don't think you will be the only one. nt Live and Learn Dec 2015 #34
Are you going to hold your breath too? mythology Dec 2015 #36
The big money can afford to Swiftboat Sanders in many ways. This is just another of their rhett o rick Dec 2015 #39
Hehe. Fantastic. ChimpersMcSmirkers Dec 2015 #41
Oh, goody, Ted Cruz and Dominionism Depaysement Dec 2015 #43
Congratulations! On a day rife with stiff competition, you win Dumbest Post of the Day. n/t winter is coming Dec 2015 #44

earthside

(6,960 posts)
2. A 'pledge' isn't going to be necessary.
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 08:48 PM
Dec 2015

Like Bill Press said, "I smell a rat."

I think the biases of chair Wasserman-Schultz and the DNC is so obvious that if Wasserman-Schultz doesn't resign and if the committee doesn't rectify this fiasco in very short order then a lot of Sanders supporters will never, never vote for Mrs. Clinton -- never.

Paulie

(8,462 posts)
6. No thanks.
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 08:53 PM
Dec 2015

this corrupt system we have is all we get. I'm voting for the ham sandwich with a D and pray my kids have a chance to live in a non handsmaid tale world.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
11. A longtime site user got banned simply for posting text from another of these 'pledge' diaries.
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 09:09 PM
Dec 2015

I'm guessing you'll be banned as soon as admins notice this one unless you're quick on the delete button.

Gregorian

(23,867 posts)
12. I semi-fascetiously said I'd write Bernie in, but I'll fend of Idiocracy by voting for Clinton.
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 09:17 PM
Dec 2015

There is just waaaay to much to lose. 5/4 put Bush in; Reagan. Huge damage to basically the New Deal.

EdwardBernays

(3,343 posts)
16. No
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 09:21 PM
Dec 2015

It would ONLY help the GOP is the DNC chose destroying Bernie over beating the GOP.

I'd support the DNC candidate if they keep the primaries fair.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
20. There is absolutely no reason for the DNC to "destroy" Bernie.
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 09:26 PM
Dec 2015

What would be the point? He has almost no chance of winning regardless. Looks like its all going to be over on super Tuesday. What the motivation? I dont get it.

NanceGreggs

(27,815 posts)
42. Exactlly on point.
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 10:06 PM
Dec 2015

According to some here, Hillary - the clear and undisputed front-runner - colluded with DWS and the DNC to "set up" the BS campaign knowing it could potentially destroy not only her front-runner status, but her bid for the nomination and the presidency.

Makes so much sense, right?


EdwardBernays

(3,343 posts)
17. No
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 09:23 PM
Dec 2015

Unless you are paranoid to think that people like Robert Reich are simply spreading anti-Hillary lies.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
21. Yes. Every step of his way this campaign, he has complained about being picked on even when in wrong
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 09:26 PM
Dec 2015

EdwardBernays

(3,343 posts)
26. If that
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 09:34 PM
Dec 2015

Is the only thing you know about Trump then maybe you'd have a point.

You might as well compare him to Stalin. I mean they both had noses.

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
19. Sound like Trump
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 09:25 PM
Dec 2015

Always threading to do something if he isn't treated "fairly". Not voting is bullshit, and trying to spread the meme is also bullshit.

EdwardBernays

(3,343 posts)
23. It's not a meme
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 09:32 PM
Dec 2015

And aside from voting how would you make a political party know what you want? What other leverage do you have?

And Pretending that my options are either Hillary or the GOP candidate is exactly the mindset that got us here in the first place.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
22. I hear what you are saying, and completely agree with your reasons why, BUT...
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 09:29 PM
Dec 2015

... I don't pledges. Ever. For anyone.

AND, I always vote. Always. Who gets my vote is my option and for that, I listen to my conscience.

I don't KNOWINGLY vote for lying, corrupt, manipulative cheaters. EVER. There are better options.

EdwardBernays

(3,343 posts)
29. Not true
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 09:36 PM
Dec 2015

Activists do all sorts of things for their cause.

And of course I'd happily vote if the DNC stops this crap.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
35. What they don't do is throw away
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 09:47 PM
Dec 2015

the rights other fought and died for. I've never met an activist who said they will sit out an election. Ever. You're pulling this out of your ass. I hope you're on MIRT's radar for this.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
28. I don't like pledges to stay home. We don't have much of a democracy any more but we must use
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 09:36 PM
Dec 2015

what we have. Besides those threats don't bother the DNC because they don't care if a Republicon wins as long as a progressive doesn't win. Show up and vote for a Democrat.

EdwardBernays

(3,343 posts)
30. That's not good enough for me anymore
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 09:38 PM
Dec 2015

If we always succumb to simply voting for the least crap candidate we'll always still end up with a crap candidate.

I'd rather not support a crap candidate.

Response to EdwardBernays (Original post)

PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
32. To which "ekection" (SIC) day are you referring? The GE?
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 09:40 PM
Dec 2015

I ask for clarification because at least one person is seriously confused or just feigning complete ignorance as an excuse to allow this violation of TOS to stand.


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Ummm...advocating not voting for the Democratic candidate and staying home? Please hide this nonsense.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Fri Dec 18, 2015, 05:27 PM, and the Jury voted 3-4 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: I'm voting to hide this because I agree. I'm sick of this PUMA bullshit. We need a Democrat in the White House. Elections matter. This site is here to promote Democrats, not rally supporters of a single candidate to sit out because they didn't get their way. Nope. Hide this and don't allow such nonsense.
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Explanation: Poster doesn't specify whether they're talking about the Primary or GE. I will assume they're talking about the primary and vote to leave. In fact after re-reading it is clear that poster is speaking about the Primary. It's stupid, but I think it should be left as an example of the ignorance of some posters here
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rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
38. Apparently some believe that instead of debating issues they should hide those that they
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 09:58 PM
Dec 2015

don't like. Not very Democratic.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
36. Are you going to hold your breath too?
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 09:47 PM
Dec 2015

Sanders isn't being mistreated. His team fucked up and then threw a hissy fit about it. If they had just admitted it, said here's how we're going to fix it" this would have been over by lunch time. Instead they stomp their feet and huff and puff. They elected to obfuscate and say it was a low level staffer when it turns out it was four staffers, one their data lead, and another high level staffer who took steps to hide what he was doing.

You can stay at home if you want. But in the end, you're only going to hurt yourself. Not everything is some great big conspiracy to get Sanders.

Yes if they had just accidentally breached the data and immediately pulled out, it was nothing. The DNC didn't make the Sanders team screw this pooch. They did it all to themselves. Likewise Florida and Michigan weren't screwed by having their delegate counts halved in 2008. There are rules set out. Play by them or don't. But if you don't, you don't get to whine about getting your hand slapped.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
39. The big money can afford to Swiftboat Sanders in many ways. This is just another of their
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 09:59 PM
Dec 2015

dirty tricks to make sure they get someone in office they can control.

Two sides to this class war and Sen Sanders is on the side of the 99%.

ChimpersMcSmirkers

(3,328 posts)
41. Hehe. Fantastic.
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 10:04 PM
Dec 2015

I'm a Hillary supporter. I don't love her, I just want a winner that can place some SCOTUS appointments.

I'm almost 50. I see what millennials have to deal with and have a lot of sympathy. They've drawn the short stick in many ways.

With that said, if a GOP candidate wins, I'll probably get a decent tax cut. I don't need it or really want it, but there it is.

For a millennial, I don't think you're going to quite get that benefit.

If you all want to Bern it down, that's your prerogative. My point is only that that attitude is just a cutting off your own nose. Yeah, maybe after a really bad GOP presidency it'll all magically change, but probably not. Imagine a 7-3 or 8-2 SCOTUS.

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