2016 Postmortem
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http://www.politico.com/tipsheets/the-2016-blast/2015/12/sanders-takes-clinton-data-then-sues-the-dnc-211847Sanders takes Clinton data, then sues the DNC
By Henry C. Jackson
12/18/15 06:14 PM EST
BERN NOTICE: POLITICOs Gabriel Debenedetti and Annie Karni report: BERNIE SANDERS campaign on Friday sued the Democratic National Committee for suspending its access to the national voter database, saying the move threatens to undermine the Vermont senator's presidential run.
Even as the campaign admitted its staffers had inappropriately reviewed and saved Hillary Clinton campaign data made available as a result of a software error, it emphatically accused the DNC of sabotage and of blatantly favoring Clinton.
The leadership of the Democratic National Committee is now actively attempting to undermine our campaign. This is unacceptable, Sanders campaign manager Jeff Weaver said on the eve of the third Democratic debate.
Individual leaders of the DNC can support Hillary Clinton in any way they want, but they are not going to sabotage our campaign one of the strongest grassroots campaigns in modern history.
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Metric System
(6,048 posts)Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)Bullshit
questionseverything
(9,656 posts)The founder of vendor NGP VAN is Nathaniel Pearlman, who was chief technology officer for Hillary Clinton's 2008 presidential campaign. Pearlman supervised Bryan Pagliano as the 2008 Clinton campaign IT director
http://www.gwu.edu/~action/2008/clinton/clintonorg.html
Pagliano went on to set up and manage Clintons private email server.
Pagliano pleaded the 5th when Hillary's emails and his role came under scrutiny.
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maybe we will get to see hc's 2nd IT guy plead the 5th
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)responsible for his own decision to exploit the software vulnerability he found, instead of reporting it.
questionseverything
(9,656 posts)hc's servers troubles had nearly faded and now we find her 2008 IT guy, her guy supervising her plead the 5th guy is either totally incompetent or much worse but she gets him the dnc gig
i say lets go to court and get everything out in the open during discovery
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)than any other thief.
questionseverything
(9,656 posts)uretsky is gone, so why punish bernie's entire campaign?
why bring civil war to the party?
btw...you seem a little sanctimonious ,some geek looked at another geeks notes its not like it was illegal torture or something
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)and provide a full accounting.
My, aren't you condescending. These were political people searching for key political data showing which voters the HRC campaign was targeting and why.
Not geeks having geeky fun.
questionseverything
(9,656 posts)The founder of vendor NGP VAN is Nathaniel Pearlman, who was chief technology officer for Hillary Clinton's 2008 presidential campaign. Pearlman supervised Bryan Pagliano as the 2008 Clinton campaign IT director
http://www.gwu.edu/~action/2008/clinton/clintonorg.html
Pagliano went on to set up and manage Clintons private email server.
Pagliano pleaded the 5th when Hillary's emails and his role came under scrutiny.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)I haven't seen Wasserman say that.
questionseverything
(9,656 posts)pnwmom (66,074 posts)
12. All Bernie's campaign has to do is agree to cooperate with an independent audit
and provide a full accounting.
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this has been fun but you make me dizzy
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)You just threw out a name for some reason.
mythology
(9,527 posts)Please be specific. Oh wait, it doesn't say that at all. You should apologize for your mistake.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)Hillary fans really are as vulnerable to risk as GOPers!
You guys really are scared of everything!
Bernie WILL be president.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)was so SCARED about what might happen to his data.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)Bernie WILL beat Hillary.
I love that!
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)then join the club.
Hekate
(90,714 posts)Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)MMM... kay.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)working for Democratic national campaigns?
Probably not a whole lot.
But let's go with your hint of a theory. Why wasn't Bernie smart enough to pick up on this whole conspiracy possibility?
Leftyforever
(317 posts)you are making up your own story.... this was not the first time the firewall went down... and on at least two of these occasions including this occasion it was the Sander's campaign who notified the dnc of the problem.... please use logic..it's fun
Karma13612
(4,552 posts)I hope this affiliation between Pearlman and Pagliano is investigated further.
Not only does it look bad for the DNC to be using this firm, but it really exposes the shady affiliations that Clinton still insists on cultivating.
questionseverything
(9,656 posts)n/t
mwrguy
(3,245 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)That scam won't last forever.
Not even till Iowa I bet.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)Complains about the party every step of the way, wants special privileges every step of the way, and now.... is pissed he can't have Clinton'd data. Threatening a law suit, right before the GE, when we need to be united, he tears apart.... WHILE using our resources and expecting our base to vote for him.
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)to support an actual registered Democrat for the Vermont 2018 Senate election.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)can win.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)My initial assessment of his lack of character stands.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)You are just too stupid to realize it.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)That's why he threw the Hail Mary pass with the lawsuit.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)Secondly... we just won: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-dnc-data-access-will-be-restored_5674e6cde4b014efe0d5aca2
The DNC caved. They had no answer.
Cha
(297,323 posts)Patrick Dillon ?@mpdillon
Hard to see how this is just a campaign helpfully trying to alert a vendor of a problem. http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-12-18/sanders-campaign-fires-data-director-after-breach-of-clinton-files
http://theobamadiary.com/2015/12/18/the-presidents-press-conference-4/
Number23
(24,544 posts)And NONE of this is good for Sanders. Or the Democratic race.
Chitown Kev
(2,197 posts)This is all a hot mess.
Number23
(24,544 posts)And the denials, obfuscation and attempts to somehow blame Hillary, the man in the moon, flawed stem cells, everything IN THE WORLD but the Sanders campaign for this is just fucking SURREAL.
I didn't think it was possible for this web site to get even more separated from reality. And then I saw the "well, Bernie's campaign reported the security flaws in October so what's the fucking problem??!" posts.
Don't you wish black folks could get the benefit of the doubt like this?? "Officer, I told Ray Ray at the 7-11 that the security camera there was broken. So why ya'll coming after me just cause I went in KNOWING that camera was broke and stole a garden hose, 40 boxes of Ho Ho's and some Wet Wipes?? If they had fixed that shit when I told them about it, this wouldn't be no thang!"
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)leftofcool
(19,460 posts)Chitown Kev
(2,197 posts)but when Bernie's folks do it they're surviving...I guess....we KNOW how that goes.
Still...if this is the final straw and DWS gets kicked to the curb, I can't say that I would be mad about it...Miss Thing is too much of a diva for me.
Chitown Kev
(2,197 posts)why the Sanders campaign had access to the data...
Uh, NO... I get that Uretsky LOOKS as if he could actually play Shaggy, but once you know that a breach has occurred, turn the matter over to your supervisors, get you and the crew into the Mystery Machine, and get the hell ON!
Number23
(24,544 posts)stormed Hillary Clinton's Facebook page and are shitting over her right and left. Because you know, all of this was her fault because... reasons.
NOW do you think he will try to reign in his supporters? Or has the cow left the barn so long ago there's no point??
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)Don't you wish your candidate cared?
She doesn't.
And, yet... you want to risk that.
Number23
(24,544 posts)If indeed, that glorious, glorious day ever comes.
Nothing in your posts makes sense, as usual. And has absolutely nothing to do with anything I've written. As usual.
This shit is as bad as the BLM bullshit. But I suspect it blows over a lot quicker.
Number23
(24,544 posts)Unfortunately, the lawsuit adds an entirely different level to all of this and will make probably make this go on for a lot longer than it needs to.
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)And won't be resolved any time soon.
Number23
(24,544 posts)Hillary's numbers have actually grown stronger in the last few weeks. This "Dems in chaos" crap is exactly the angle they've been looking for and I'm willing to bet they will milk it for as long as they can.
These folks spent months on a missing plane. Day in, day out. People have already been fired over this and I'm sure that more will come. I don't think that this is a small story.
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)Expect Sanders and Clinton to not be nasty to one another at the debate, etc.
The DNC has 21 days to respond, then you have several months for discovery, then the DNC has a good shot to get it dismissed over the "necessary measures" clause. It seems to me to be a small thing in the end, unrelated to the Clinton/Sanders campaign (though some Sanders "supporters" are pulling their hair out over it).
Number23
(24,544 posts)with the DNC and been granted access to their files again. Which Sanders supporters here, of course, are saying is "Bernie looking injustice in the eye and not blinking" when this whole damn thing should have never even happened in the first place.
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)But I think that Weaver has stepped in it and whoever is doing the advising has fallen for their own bubble. The supporters don't want the lawsuit dropped and if they drop it it will come off as a "loss" or as "weak" or whatever. It's all about imaging. So I give it only 50/50 odds they drop the lawsuit.
If the lawsuit is dropped it will be after a day or two cool down from the drama that way supporters don't feel let down.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)Bernie WILL be our next president.
Thanks for giving us press.
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)There is more in the suit than getting access to the database back.
Hekate
(90,714 posts)What do you think the Sanders campaign is gonna do with that garden hose?
Number23
(24,544 posts)Cha
(297,323 posts)Number23
(24,544 posts)But I guess he deserved better than some of the folks working on his campaign too.
Cha
(297,323 posts)him I think he gets exactly what he deserves.
Persondem
(1,936 posts)Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)I love this. I really, really, really do!
Bernie WILL be the next POTUS.
Cha
(297,323 posts)Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)trash thread