a format they can use to derail the Clinton strategy to be fired for their wrongdoing.

Per the vendor, NGP VAN, no data was stolen. Just a bunch of users that don't understand how queries work.

Per the vendor:
"First, a one page-style report containing summary data on a list was saved out of VoteBuilder by one Sanders user. This is what some people have referred to as the “export” from VoteBuilder. As noted below, users were unable to export lists of people."

"On Wednesday morning, there was a release of VAN code. Unfortunately, it contained a bug. For a brief window, the voter data that is always searchable across campaigns in VoteBuilder included client scores it should not have, on a specific part of the VAN system. So for voters that a user already had access to, that user was able to search by and view (but not export or save or act on) some attributes that came from another campaign."
http://blog.ngpvan.com/news/data-security-and-privacy

The log was released.

They STOLE data, regardless of what anybody wants to say about it.

The database admins for the vendor that owns the application said it.
That is a public release from the vendor. I think they know more than you.
http://blog.ngpvan.com/news/data-security-and-privacy

Posting old crap to obscure. Nice.

No data was stolen. No list were saved. I didn't say it, the engineers that own the application and are the admins of the database said it:
"So for voters that a user already had access to, that user was able to search by and view (but not export or save or act on) some attributes that came from another campaign."

I think I'll take the word of the of experts.

They saved the damn reports. Uretsky admitted it on MSNBC.

It is a public release from the vendor that owns the application and is the admins for the database.

What was saved was addressed:
"First, a one page-style report containing summary data on a list was saved out of VoteBuilder by one Sanders user. This is what some people have referred to as the “export” from VoteBuilder. As noted below, users were unable to export lists of people."

He obviously didn't realize they had the database under THAT MUCH scrutiny, and when he figured it out, he tried to cover his tracks. It didn't work.

The DNC is very likely to bring charges against them, and they are very likely to be convicted of committing computer crimes.

On Mother Jones, minus the shilling for HRC, that does an ok job of trying to explain what happened from a technical standpoint.

That NGP-VAN's own synopsis of what happened is being ignored or disregarded because it doesn't fit a certain partisan narrative is sad for our party.

Part of the problem is that to truely understand the mechanics of this issue requires a level of IT competency that the majority of people don't have. It is very complicated and the news media, who don't understand it themselves, simplify it and lose specifics and context and have said things that any competent IT person knows to be wrong.

The short answer is this: would I, as an IT professional, have handled it the way the Sanders data steward did? Probably not.
Based on the account creations, naming conventions used and documentation of events, was there any attempt at subterfuge or spycraft or any attempt, at all, to hide their actions? No. The Sanders data steward was a trained and experienced administrator of the VoteBuilder database, he knew that his actions were traceable in the database. There were no attempts to "beat the system".

At this time yesterday, those two co-conspirators getting tossed off the Bernie bus weren't even in the public eye. These logs had not been seen.

This is a big deal. There is a REASON that Sanders said "I apologize to Secretary Clinton." It's because his people did wrong--they screwed the Senator and maligned his reputation with their shenanigans. They took from him The High Road. He became a member of the "Politics as Usual" crowd, thanks to those assholes.

Just no parsing it.

The smart money says stop defending those assholes. Sure as hell stop defending them while wearing an IT crown. This is not speculation anymore--we KNOW they had nefarious intent. They couldn't have done more damage to Sanders if they'd been working for Donald Trump on the side.

As for the National Data Director, if he knew he was being keylogged, why was he running searches that were searches for specific voters that the Sanders campaign might be able to "turn," and why was he handing off those files to subordinates to copy, either via screenshot or other means, and why was he stuffing them in a user file? Ever hear the expression "Born at night, but not last night?" The man was FIRED because it was obvious as hell--to SANDERS--what he was doing. It wasn't even subtle.

It's entirely possible that he was clued in that the DNC actively monitored that particular database by someone else familiar with it, after he'd gone too far, and he figured "In for a penny, in for a pound." Alternatively, he threw all that stuff in a file hoping that the Overseers either wouldn't notice the intrusion, or he could come up with that lame-ass "Probe the system" line of cough-horseshit-cough if they saw it.

I'll bet someone (maybe more than one someone) in the Sanders campaign probably still DOES have a lot of that information, but if they try to use it the odds are good to excellent the pattern will be discerned, especially if the DNC can determine any systematic contact by the BS crew. Anyone with a printed list of those names is sitting on a powder keg and is subject to indictment. Time for a winter bonfire.

That's like saying that some guy stealing donuts and eating them was only "testing" them to make sure they were safe and delicious for the customers. It just doesn't hold up--you should stop shopping the line, because NO ONE is buying it--no one.

You really need to back away from this excuse. When even Bernie isn't buying it, you should follow his lead.

Here--read it and weep.

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2015/images/12/18/merged_document.pdf

DWS and even Clinton! I mean, did these two also make those Sanders campaign staffers access, download, and save those files?? Doesn't this bother them at all that this happened, or is it a-okay for Sanders campaign staffers to do anything they want because he's presumably trustworthy?

This morning as this was breaking, I told my son that Sanders is an honest man and that he'll come out and tell us that those who were responsible for this would be immediately fired, and to watch the presser. Instead, we get this angry attorney from the Sanders campaign NOT apologizing but playing this righteous indignation and completely ignores the fact that staffers committed a Watergate-style thing but that it's actually Debbie Wasserman-Schultz' and even Hillary Clinton's fault.

I mean...wow.

breach by his staffers - damaging to the Clinton Campaign. I just stood there, jaw agape, when I saw that self-righteous Jeff Weaver blaming the security company that the Clinton home was broken into and burglarized! Uneffingbelievable.

I had held him in higher esteem. Mistake I guess.

And on the disbursements list in the second link, in alphabetical order.

according to his linkedin profile. According to Bloomburg, the data was viewed by these 4: Uretsky and his deputy, Russell Drapkin, and 2 user names under Uresky's account, talani & csmith-bernie.

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-12-18/sanders-campaign-fires-data-director-after-breach-of-clinton-files

and you're still fighting this?

Sanders, being an honorable and trustworthy statesperson, had to apologize. To not
apologize would have been disastrous.

Clinton and the DNC setup this entrapment on Sanders and purposefully tried
to tarnish his reputation.

People like you are trying to end the discussion because you know the potential
damage has already been committed.

So, yes, I am still discussing the disgusting act by Clinton's DNC.


My analysis post:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251929208