2016 Postmortem

RBInMaine

(13,570 posts) Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:45 PM Dec 2015

If Hillary's team had done what Sanders' people did,Sanders' folks would be screaming bloody murder.

Enough of the HYPOCRISY ! Every single Sanders supporter here and everywhere knows damn well that if HILLARY'S people had done what the Sanders people did they would be shouting from rooftops.

Sanders knows his ONLY hope in hell of being president is by running as a Democrat, the party he has TRASHED time and again in the past. (He has said long ago he would support the eventual Dem nominee no matter who it is and would not run an Independent race which would be amazingly STUPID because a piss hole in the snow would have more chance of winning the presidency than a Sanders independent run and it would only help whatever maniacal RePUKE they nominate get the White House. Do you want that? Do you want President Trump or President Cruz. THINK ABOUT IT. So I give Bernie a lot of credit for that.)

By attacking the DNC rather than asking for high level meetings and immediate mediation and negotiation is STUPID on the Sanders' team's part, and the conspiracy theories about the DNC simply trying to help Hillary is delusional shit.

As I have always said, Bernie is a very good man whose heart is in the right place, but no self declared socialist is going to win the general election. He is 30% behind in national polls. That is the reality.

This all said, the DNC and the Sanders people need to get this mess cleaned up the sooner the better since it is such a distraction.

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If Hillary's team had done what Sanders' people did,Sanders' folks would be screaming bloody murder. (Original Post) RBInMaine Dec 2015 OP

I'm sure they have done it ... ThePhilosopher04 Dec 2015 #1

Yup. That's pretty much a certainty Scootaloo Dec 2015 #4

She did and they didn't Kalidurga Dec 2015 #2

"Transmission to" and "deliberately downloading" 25 searches is an entire different thing..... Historic NY Dec 2015 #9

THAT is the DNC's talking point for the day. grasswire Dec 2015 #3

This is what happens ... MrWendel Dec 2015 #5

HRCs people did the same thing and it makes no difference. WDIM Dec 2015 #6

Let's think about this. If the party's mega database was run and housed by a Sander's partisan.. Joe the Revelator Dec 2015 #7

Exactly. n/t Hepburn Dec 2015 #8

You gotta keep up! Clinton actually DID this already in 2008, with NO Repercussions from the DNC. JimDandy Dec 2015 #10

Whats funny is all the Sanders supporters vapors over it........ Historic NY Dec 2015 #12

Umm... Organizing For America was a DNC initiative. JimDandy Dec 2015 #13

she already did it, and you're wrong Doctor_J Dec 2015 #11

Well they are still screaming bloody murder, cuz St. Bernard and his disciples can Persondem Dec 2015 #14

ThePhilosopher04

(1,732 posts)

1. I'm sure they have done it ...

Reply to RBInMaine (Original post)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:46 PM

Dec 2015

it will come out in the wash.

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)

4. Yup. That's pretty much a certainty

Reply to ThePhilosopher04 (Reply #1)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:48 PM

Dec 2015

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)

2. She did and they didn't

Reply to RBInMaine (Original post)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:47 PM

Dec 2015

http://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000151-b72f-d1ae-add5-f76f14db0001

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Historic NY

(37,451 posts)

9. "Transmission to" and "deliberately downloading" 25 searches is an entire different thing.....

Reply to Kalidurga (Reply #2)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 12:02 AM

Dec 2015

beside this alleged incident was in 2008 which in no way even if you used a time machine the same as 2015....technology has changed

Hes got nothing in the court....

grasswire

(50,130 posts)

3. THAT is the DNC's talking point for the day.

Reply to RBInMaine (Original post)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:47 PM

Dec 2015

FAIL.

MrWendel

(1,881 posts)

5. This is what happens ...

Reply to RBInMaine (Original post)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:48 PM

Dec 2015

when you claim "Superior Morality".

WDIM

(1,662 posts)

6. HRCs people did the same thing and it makes no difference.

Reply to RBInMaine (Original post)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:50 PM

Dec 2015

This is a meaningless manufactured scandal by the crony DNC. Rich people doing rich people favors. More corruption and cronyism. No surprise Hillary can't run a honest campaign.

Joe the Revelator

(14,915 posts)

7. Let's think about this. If the party's mega database was run and housed by a Sander's partisan..

Reply to RBInMaine (Original post)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:51 PM

Dec 2015

...and the firewall run by this company of Sander's partisans kept going down, but Hillary was assured that there was still security in place, then when the firewall went down again, the Clinton staffer went in to see how much could be seen, assuming (correctly) that the Sander's team would be able to see the same thing he could see. This Clinton staffer then self reported his own intrusion in hopes of getting the system fixed.

Nah, I wouldn't be mad at Hillary's campaign for doing that..

Hepburn

(21,054 posts)

8. Exactly. n/t

Reply to Joe the Revelator (Reply #7)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:52 PM

Dec 2015

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)

10. You gotta keep up! Clinton actually DID this already in 2008, with NO Repercussions from the DNC.

Reply to RBInMaine (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 12:06 AM

Dec 2015

This "bug (feature) has existed for at least that long. The DNC and Van's have been negligent to the extreme.

Let me put it very clearly:

Clinton, Van's and the DNC all KNEW ABOUT THIS PROBLEM FOR AT LEAST 7 YEARS!

They have richly earned any conspiracy theory that has come their way.

Historic NY

(37,451 posts)

12. Whats funny is all the Sanders supporters vapors over it........

Reply to JimDandy (Reply #10)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 12:23 AM

Dec 2015

when Obama didn't used the DNC he setup his independent OFA.

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)

13. Umm... Organizing For America was a DNC initiative.

Reply to Historic NY (Reply #12)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 12:53 AM

Dec 2015

(Later Obama For America then Organizing For Action)

It didn't even exist until after Obama's 2009 inauguration!

P.S. Sanders supporter here.

ETA Obama and his volunteers used the same VoteBuilder database that Sanders is using

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)

11. she already did it, and you're wrong

Reply to RBInMaine (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 12:23 AM

Dec 2015

Unsurprisingly

Persondem

(1,936 posts)

14. Well they are still screaming bloody murder, cuz St. Bernard and his disciples can

Reply to RBInMaine (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 01:02 AM

Dec 2015

do no wrong.

He fired the guy; that's good. He should apologize, and then he will likely get access restored. The cranky, victim thing doesn't work well in this kind of situation.

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