What ever helps them all sleep at night.

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"theft" is such a manipulative word

We shouldn't be accusing each other of being shills.

And I find the use of the word 'theft' that is being repeated to be manipulative. And certainly untrue.

However, I agree with you. I try to stay civil - but I'm very angry by what happened today. I've always respected the level of civility in your posts even when you disagree. So thanks for reminding me. I edited my post.

Appreciate it.

thank you for your comments.

Thanks.

ethics by the Sanders campaign and its followers. It's kind of hard to hold together a facade when you are bursting with sanctimonious hubris.

saying about the brutish, uncouth conduct and the bullyboy attitude. Put that worst foot forward!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-dnc-data-access-will-be-restored_5674e6cde4b014efe0d5aca2

Bernie WILL be the next president.

the tiny number of debates scheduled for no viewers, all to keep Sanders name out of the dialog, and other stumbling blocks thrown in the way not to mention this action so close to when the first votes care to be cast and the planned blocking from their own campaign data until way to late to be useful. This is the frosting that looks like DWS's DNC was doing some election stealing. Ask instead why is the Democratic party being turned into a second Republican party.

unless something really improbable happens, she is getting the nomination.

A strong Bernie does not hurt Hillary.

Look what happened.

She should keep better friends than Wasserman Schultz.

It's been getting lots of pretty bad comments for a long time.

nobody trusts her but the people she pays to post on the interwebs.

I'd think so. Especially ones with deep pockets. I'm sure Jeb Bush has a crew of "digital media specialists"

Do you think Bernie Sanders pays people to post? I really doubt it.

The "digital media specialist" who claimed that he worked for Hillary (from Reddit) reported that he was getting paid $100 a day.

Would you trust someone who was paying you a pittance for such degrading, grunt work?

I wonder how they find these people.

I worked in PR for many years. The process is considered unethical and the Public Relations Society of America has publicly stated that astro-turfing is unprofessional.

I would think that it would be a very stressful gig. Nonstop negativity.

I' not a Facebook member.

And the replies, nearly a THOUASND of them, are all a backlash against DWS's actions, corruption, lack of trustworthiness.

Also, this theme is repeated a few times:

Hillary says:

And BSers have more "important" things to say. Looks like a thoughtless mob to me.

I think it's indicative of how LOTS of people feel about this election.

that plenty of people are boiling mad about the status quo and want real change. Clinton doesn't represent that. She is a lackluster candidate who is more weather vane than anything else. Now this thing with the DNC coming out against Sanders - that's bullshit meant to kill Bernie's campaign. It's funny, because this is ratfucking straight from the Book of Rove, and 20 years ago it would have worked. What the Third Way establishment, including your candidate, doesn't understand is that they no longer control the dialog.

We do.

The way I see it, and this is admittedly my opinion, is that Clinton can't hold a candle to Bernie on either the issues or her record versus his. So, we've seen a succession of memes that flew dutifully around the corporate-owned 24 hour news cycle - Bernie has problems with blacks. He has problems with Hispanics. He has problems with women. He can sell lots of tee shirts and fill arenas, but he can't win.

Now there's this.

Seems to me that either Clinton is really, really worried about Bernie's ACTUAL support as opposed to what's being reported in the corporate-owned media and so is making a last ditch attempt at an old fashioned ratfucking - a really nice Christmas surprise designed to put Bernie's campaign on the mat for good. But it's backfiring because of social media. The dialog is now democratically controlled, not corporate controlled.

But you know, I'm for Bernie because he best represents me on the issues that I care about. If you think about it, NO one in the establishment wants Bernie in there. That's why the media is ignoring him. That's why the Third Way is trying to force Clinton back to the right and started the meme about selling lots of coffee cups but not being able to win. That's why Clinton surrogates are fighting dirty, making ugly smears that allow Clinton to smile and brush an imaginary speck from her lapel.

I'm not buying that, though. Clinton wants to be president far more than she wants to do anything good for you and me. Seriously. Wall Street and the MIC butter her bread, not us. And I'm really, really pissed about this. Big time. So pissed that if Bernie loses, I'm gonna write his name in. Because honestly, the Democratic party hasn't represented my interests since about 1985. Bernie does.

I'm feeling that anger today too. You put that succinctly.

Party used to be the peoples party until Bill and Hillary turned it into the DLC - Third Way Party.

The Clintons have done so much damage to the Democratic Party.

The horror! Those utter bastards!

got old a long, long time ago.

It's not an expression of humanity so much as incredible cynicism and moral decay, imo.

She'll put my son in harm's way. He has a Muslim name. She likes killing those people.

Because scoring political points while riding the backs of other people's honor is exactly her SOP. She is a pathological liar and of questionable morals.

American Muslims have been under attack lately. That HRC is consistently using her voice to support them by publicizing individual accomplishments is laudable.

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https://www.facebook.com/hillaryclinton/

Wow...

I am betting she and DWS are on the phone trying to figure a way out of the mess they created.

Whodda thought!

The logs tell the story of who got what information. If the Clinton camp had tapped into the Sanders camp information and searched it for specific information--you can bet the farm, they would have let the media know by now. Instead what we have in the logs showing the the Sanders staff tapped into the Clinton proprietary data and did specific searches for specific information


"the logs show the Sanders staffers took deliberate steps to harvest and store the information."

http://time.com/4155185/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-data/

...............According to data reviewed by TIME, the Sanders campaign appears to have obtained files with lists of voters that the Clinton campaign had cultivated in 10 early states including Iowa and New Hampshire.

Beyond simply reviewing the data, the logs show the Sanders staffers took deliberate steps to harvest and store the information. According to the logs, the Sanders staff created from scratch no fewer than 24 lists—consisting entirely of data pulled down from the Clinton campaign’s database—and saved them to their personal folders.


The logs show the Sanders campaign accessed the Clinton data for nearly one hour beginning around 10:40 p.m. Wednesday. The Sanders staffers were apparently able to view unique voter information along with accompanying information about how likely the voters were to vote for the various candidates, crucial information that the Clinton campaign has likely spent millions of dollars to collect.

The Clinton campaign called for a clear accounting of the breach.

“We were informed that our proprietary data was breached by Sanders campaign staff in 25 searches by four different accounts and that this data was saved into the Sanders’ campaign account,” said spokesman Brian Fallon. “We are asking that the Sanders campaign and the DNC work expeditiously to ensure that our data is not in the Sanders campaign’s account and that the Sanders campaign only have access to their own data.”

Moreover, the Sanders staffers who carried out the breach included a top lieutenant for the Vermont senator: Josh Uretsky, the national data director for the campaign.

The Sanders campaign denied that it had downloaded any data, saying that it did not retain information from the Clinton campaign.

“They didn’t download it—they went in looked around,” said Sanders spokesman Michael Briggs, who announced Thursday the campaign was firing Utersky and that they were treating the matter seriously.

Uretsky also told MSNBC that the campaign “did not export any records or voter file data” and was simply trying “to document and understand the scope of the problem.”.................

For the Facebook posts. The anger is raw. Maybe we should be sending DWS thank you cards, she's done Clinton in with this and increased the debate views for tomorrow night.

Have not seen one positive post on the HRC Facebook page re what was done to Bernie's campaign yesterday.

google #hillary twitter and check out the news feed. reddit and twitter have exploded and it aint pretty for her

Karma -- I just love karma!

and is a very elegant system....

One should not tempt Karma to smack one firmly in the face.

...and yesterday was, IMO, a prime example of NOT following it!

from Bernie Sanders worshippers.

This has done some very real damage. It's probably irreversible.

Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!

after post after post of support.

where all those people are who are represented in her poll numbers

on a Friday night. It's pathetic.

And actually a little scary a segment of the Left is so far removed form reality.

And, laughably enough, here you are, a Hillary supporter with nothing to do on a Friday night.

and don't waste my time swarming polls and Clinton's Facebook page.

But you go ahead!

to your time. Happy Holidays!!!

here you are

If you don't like us, then don't talk to us. There is an Ignore feature. Tune us out if you cannot keep up with us.

it's the avatar that makes that so funny.

SOP

Hey, she could talk to Facebook, right?

Masterful and well-done!

But in the words of Sylvio Forel....

I kid, I kid.

...and she deserves it. Proud? That is not the issue. People are speaking the truth about their feelings about Hillary. If you don't like it, go post some BRAVO HILLARY and support your position right there where those who disagree with you are stating their points of view. You will be the only one supporting her...but go for it.

who couldn't keep a firewall intact. Then used this fact to try and derail Sander's campaign - even after his campaign alerted them to the firewall problem.

Sanders stall who did this are the ones with no morals.




The logs tell the story of who got what information. If the Clinton camp had tapped into the Sanders camp information and searched it for specific information--you can bet the farm, they would have let the media know by now. Instead what we have in the logs showing the the Sanders staff tapped into the Clinton proprietary data and did specific searches for specific information


"the logs show the Sanders staffers took deliberate steps to harvest and store the information."

http://time.com/4155185/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-data/

...............According to data reviewed by TIME, the Sanders campaign appears to have obtained files with lists of voters that the Clinton campaign had cultivated in 10 early states including Iowa and New Hampshire.

Beyond simply reviewing the data, the logs show the Sanders staffers took deliberate steps to harvest and store the information. According to the logs, the Sanders staff created from scratch no fewer than 24 lists—consisting entirely of data pulled down from the Clinton campaign’s database—and saved them to their personal folders.


The logs show the Sanders campaign accessed the Clinton data for nearly one hour beginning around 10:40 p.m. Wednesday. The Sanders staffers were apparently able to view unique voter information along with accompanying information about how likely the voters were to vote for the various candidates, crucial information that the Clinton campaign has likely spent millions of dollars to collect.

The Clinton campaign called for a clear accounting of the breach.

“We were informed that our proprietary data was breached by Sanders campaign staff in 25 searches by four different accounts and that this data was saved into the Sanders’ campaign account,” said spokesman Brian Fallon. “We are asking that the Sanders campaign and the DNC work expeditiously to ensure that our data is not in the Sanders campaign’s account and that the Sanders campaign only have access to their own data.”

Moreover, the Sanders staffers who carried out the breach included a top lieutenant for the Vermont senator: Josh Uretsky, the national data director for the campaign.

The Sanders campaign denied that it had downloaded any data, saying that it did not retain information from the Clinton campaign.

“They didn’t download it—they went in looked around,” said Sanders spokesman Michael Briggs, who announced Thursday the campaign was firing Utersky and that they were treating the matter seriously.

Uretsky also told MSNBC that the campaign “did not export any records or voter file data” and was simply trying “to document and understand the scope of the problem.”.................

whether she deserves it or not.

ignore, and I go out of my way NOT to be rude or accusatory to anyone here.

So, go for it if it makes you feel better

I took it as a swipe against Bernie.

Take care

where are all her supposed supporters?

I think the amount of support for Sanders, and the lack of support for Clinton SPEAK VOLUMES. I'm sure her campaign cares. A lot. Bet on it.

I haven't seen you in FOREVER.... Hi. Good to see you are still around. Maybe you have been, and it is I that has not been around, lol.

Happy Holidays to you.

http://www.enotes.com/shakespeare-quotes/lady-doth-protest-too-much-methinks

500 to Bernie.

Not a shocker. Bernie trolls and GOP pricks. Not much of a difference.

lol. And meanwhile all of Clinton's supposed supporters are where? Hanging out on DU spreading lies maybe? No, what you are seeing is how people are feeling about the DNC and Clinton. Get used to it.

You think that DU or Facebook is the pulse of the nation?

Get a clue.

They'll get their marching orders to go vote in the online polls.