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Uncle Joe

(58,366 posts)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 01:21 AM Dec 2015

DNC to Restore Voter Database to Sanders Campaign



Bernie Sanders’ grassroots base has just won a major victory in the battle with the Democratic National Committee. The DNC has bowed to demands to give access to the national voter database back to the Sanders campaign.

According to a tweet from New York Times reporter Nick Corasaniti, the DNC will restore the Sanders campaign’s database access on Saturday morning:


The progressive outrage over the DNC’s decision dominated national news coverage from Friday morning to late evening. A MoveOn petition launched early Friday morning gained over 250,000 signatures in less than 24 hours. A similar petition by Robert Reich — former Secretary of Labor for the Bill Clinton White House — also went viral. Bernie Sanders’ campaign also launched a petition demanding the DNC restore access.

The DNC’s controversial move will likely be a topic at tomorrow night’s Democratic presidential debate in Manchester, New Hampshire. Sanders will be debating former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and former Maryland governor Martin O’Malley Saturday evening at 8 PM Eastern.


http://usuncut.com/politics/breaking-dnc-to-restore-voter-database-to-sanders-campaign/

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DNC to Restore Voter Database to Sanders Campaign (Original Post) Uncle Joe Dec 2015 OP
Way to make sure that the debate is an obscure, low-key affair! lumberjack_jeff Dec 2015 #1
You guys are too funny Renew Deal Dec 2015 #3
Joking, right? elleng Dec 2015 #19
+1 JustAnotherGen Dec 2015 #57
ROFL AgingAmerican Dec 2015 #30
schultz and the DNC minus those on our side who threatened to leave et al found something in roguevalley Dec 2015 #54
someone doesn't want discovery. nashville_brook Dec 2015 #2
Well, they certainly have had more exposure R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2015 #6
Yes, Sanders' campaign has been even more exposed for the amateur hour it really is... KittyWampus Dec 2015 #12
You keep using that word. Is it a fad or something? Scootaloo Dec 2015 #16
It's difficult to call a man his age 'childish' Matariki Dec 2015 #22
all they do is snit and whine. Its unbelievable. roguevalley Dec 2015 #55
Oh, you poor dear. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2015 #20
Stop that. Matariki Dec 2015 #24
Thank you very much for the complement1! daybranch Dec 2015 #31
Amen.... daleanime Dec 2015 #46
Yet it's DWS's DNC that caved in to amateur politician, Bernie Sanders. frylock Dec 2015 #39
........ daleanime Dec 2015 #42
They stared into the abyss ... Fantastic Anarchist Dec 2015 #28
Injunctive relief may be moot... Hepburn Dec 2015 #8
so...we don't know the details...but could this be a unilateral throwing in of the towel nashville_brook Dec 2015 #14
IMO, DWS, HRC, and the Hil-DC caved. Hepburn Dec 2015 #17
RIGHT! elleng Dec 2015 #21
Hi, Ellen! Hepburn Dec 2015 #23
Yes, hasn't it been? elleng Dec 2015 #26
that's exactly the way it looks. and so quickly after making SO much noise tonight! nashville_brook Dec 2015 #25
IMO, I am betting that they wish they never started this BS Hepburn Dec 2015 #27
I took a peek, it was pretty amazing but yuiyoshida Dec 2015 #45
So, does the Discovery continue? Le Taz Hot Dec 2015 #43
If the Sanders campaign wishes to continue the portion of the suit that is other than for Hepburn Dec 2015 #48
Thank you. Le Taz Hot Dec 2015 #49
The guy who was fired said the Sanders data was accessed. appalachiablue Dec 2015 #50
THAT is what I want discovered. Le Taz Hot Dec 2015 #51
Fired Sanders staffer, US Uncut, appalachiablue Dec 2015 #53
I really hope he still sues ... Fantastic Anarchist Dec 2015 #33
Yeah, court would have sucked for DWS/DNC/HRC. n/t dogknob Dec 2015 #4
DWS still needs to go. chervilant Dec 2015 #5
That's still one day at $600,000/day. Go to court! n/t dogknob Dec 2015 #7
"progressive outrage" LOL! No, it's the ideologues freaking out over their candidate KittyWampus Dec 2015 #9
Nice projection there. frylock Dec 2015 #40
The DNC effed up. Try to cope and not project. (N/T) Old Crow Dec 2015 #44
sad those kind of childish comments. if this were the way you say it is, Kitty wampus roguevalley Dec 2015 #56
Not surprised...DNC fucked up. coyote Dec 2015 #10
Hate to say this but looking at this as a Hillary supporter bigdarryl Dec 2015 #11
It was a question of justice and appropriate discipline, the DNC's heavy handed death penalty Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #15
Exactly. The proper way to do it... backscatter712 Dec 2015 #52
Unfortunately if we dont want the witch running the DNC we have bigdarryl Dec 2015 #59
Post removed Post removed Dec 2015 #36
I am a purist right down the middle, just like most of Bernie's polices, which by the way, most litlbilly Dec 2015 #41
"Some of these Sanders supporters are just as crazy as the nuts on the far right" madfloridian Dec 2015 #37
Lol Truprogressive85 Dec 2015 #13
Hope they liked the taste of that Matariki Dec 2015 #18
Sure. Misbehave. Throw fit. When adult in the room gives to not hurt the party ... Declare victory seabeyond Dec 2015 #29
The beginning of the statement from DNC, Sanders campaign complied, good. Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #32
There was no need for a death penalty action, the Sanders campaign was cooperating from the Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #35
Not only was there "no need" but the DNC's action was a broach of contract. w4rma Dec 2015 #47
Then to remove access to the Sanders campaign until there was an agreement to cooperate Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #58
Hey, Debbie. Why back down? Nyan Dec 2015 #34
Fight with us Bernie, our power stands with you aspirant Dec 2015 #38
victory? bigtree Dec 2015 #60
Not surprising. They locked it down to make sure MineralMan Dec 2015 #61

elleng

(130,974 posts)
19. Joking, right?
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 01:36 AM
Dec 2015

No appreciation of value of the database to Sanders, AND no recognition DWS/DNC are in the WRONG in seizing it as they did, I guess.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
30. ROFL
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 01:52 AM
Dec 2015

It proves their incompetence. Threat of lawsuit made them fold. Too late, all eyes on Bernie now! Thanks DWS!!

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
54. schultz and the DNC minus those on our side who threatened to leave et al found something in
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 04:11 AM
Dec 2015

bernie that they have no experience with: a backbone

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
12. Yes, Sanders' campaign has been even more exposed for the amateur hour it really is...
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 01:29 AM
Dec 2015

yet again.

And his supporters manage to outdo themselves building conspiracies and walls of denial.

daybranch

(1,309 posts)
31. Thank you very much for the complement1!
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 01:55 AM
Dec 2015

As you say Bernie's campaign depends on unpaid volunteers, mostly young with little experience and many with volunteer experience as activists dating back to the Kennedy days. We certainly are not in it for the money and few are paid, I am so proud as one of the older activists to be associated with so many energetic, thinking, and committed younger people. Again please keep reminding us how the people who should be deciding which way this government is run are unpaid amateurs rather than professional politicians as they kiss the boots of the oligarchy. Keep reminding us we are the little people, it stirs up a fight you in us you cannot imagine. We welcome terms such as riff raff, amateurs and other terms of elitism designed to degrade us. We amateurs are what fight your wars for oil, we are the ones after losing our jobs in coal mining day slowly from black lung, and we are the ones that endure police violence which we note is inflicted upon the poor and unconnected politically. Yep, just keep reminding us. Every time you call us amateurs, we rejoice we are not paid lackeys as we fight your beloved establishment and its candidate. We are proud and redouble our effort. Please add riff-raff to your vocabulary, it always energizes me to know I stand against elitism and with the people. Go Bernie!

frylock

(34,825 posts)
39. Yet it's DWS's DNC that caved in to amateur politician, Bernie Sanders.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:52 AM
Dec 2015

What an embarrassment for your party.

Hepburn

(21,054 posts)
8. Injunctive relief may be moot...
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 01:26 AM
Dec 2015

...but the causes of action in the suit for damages are not. May be little damage because the Hil-NC immediately reversed themselves, but that does not mean that the other causes of action pleaded in the alternative, for damages, are moot because Bernie has access again. Yep, I would love to do the discovery on this lawsuit!

nashville_brook

(20,958 posts)
14. so...we don't know the details...but could this be a unilateral throwing in of the towel
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 01:31 AM
Dec 2015

b/c they (DNC) realize they can't handle the liability?

Hepburn

(21,054 posts)
17. IMO, DWS, HRC, and the Hil-DC caved.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 01:34 AM
Dec 2015

Bernie had a total winner on his petn for injunctive relief. IMO, all they are doing now is mitigating the damages which were alleged in the alternative causes of action in the petn.

Hepburn

(21,054 posts)
27. IMO, I am betting that they wish they never started this BS
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 01:48 AM
Dec 2015

HRC's facebook page says it all...hit after hit after hit telling her, basically, to go to hell.

yuiyoshida

(41,832 posts)
45. I took a peek, it was pretty amazing but
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 03:07 AM
Dec 2015

on twitter there is no outstanding hashtag, not sure why, you would think this would be a major ordeal but if there is a hashtag, I have failed to find it.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
43. So, does the Discovery continue?
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 03:04 AM
Dec 2015

I'm betting the buck-ninety-eight that I have in my pocket that the Sanders data was breeched and if so, wouldn't Discovery allow an investigation to find out if that was the case? Can you tell I have absolutely NO legal background? LOL!

Hepburn

(21,054 posts)
48. If the Sanders campaign wishes to continue the portion of the suit that is other than for
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 03:11 AM
Dec 2015

injunctive relief, then, yes, there most likely will be discovery.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
9. "progressive outrage" LOL! No, it's the ideologues freaking out over their candidate
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 01:27 AM
Dec 2015

running an amateurish campaign.

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
56. sad those kind of childish comments. if this were the way you say it is, Kitty wampus
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 04:16 AM
Dec 2015

they wouldn't have folded their tent. Discovery is the word that busted their bullshit. They have to hand over every single thing that they wrote, spoke or emailed. The entire sham will be exposed. It couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of doofuses. This isn't amateur hour for Bernie. He is the pro here. Its stupid for the others, amateurs all who feel that cash trumps class.

 

bigdarryl

(13,190 posts)
11. Hate to say this but looking at this as a Hillary supporter
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 01:29 AM
Dec 2015

Some of these Sanders supporters are just as crazy as the nuts on the far right.Bernie can't do no wrong in there eyes this was obviously someone on his staff fuck up but they iwant to blame solely.the DNC .How the hell do they expect Clinton supporters like me or the democratic party as.a whole get behind them if he's the nominee

Uncle Joe

(58,366 posts)
15. It was a question of justice and appropriate discipline, the DNC's heavy handed death penalty
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 01:31 AM
Dec 2015

action was neither.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
52. Exactly. The proper way to do it...
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 03:38 AM
Dec 2015

...would have been to keep it quiet, discipline staffers behind the scenes, and fix the damned security bugs in the VAN. This could have been resolved with a few phone calls, and having misbehaving staffers called to the carpet without getting the media involved.

The Sanders campaign already did the right thing - fired the IT guy who, perhaps innocently, perhaps not, violated policy and privacy by accessing those files in the VAN. And seeing the that VAN is a web app, the only thing to do is clear the browser caches of the computers involved.

Debbie decided to try to use this incident to Dean-Scream the Sanders campaign, and it looks like it blew up in her face.

DWS has got to go. A chair of the DNC has to be 100% impartial when presiding over primary races, and she's proven she is incapable of doing that. She just can't resist putting her thumb on the scale for her favored candidate, and in the end, this is likely to hurt Hillary more than it hurts Bernie.

She needs to resign. She has a clear conflict of interest, and that makes her calls as referee of Democratic primaries into a farce.

 

bigdarryl

(13,190 posts)
59. Unfortunately if we dont want the witch running the DNC we have
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:41 AM
Dec 2015

To petition the WH telling the President to remove her because hes the one that put her in that position

Response to bigdarryl (Reply #11)

 

litlbilly

(2,227 posts)
41. I am a purist right down the middle, just like most of Bernie's polices, which by the way, most
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:59 AM
Dec 2015

people like.

Truprogressive85

(900 posts)
13. Lol
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 01:30 AM
Dec 2015

Looks like DWS has no backbone or was she worried

I thought Sanders camp would not gain access until an independent investigation cleared

So this is not Watergate as many HRC alluded to ealier today

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
29. Sure. Misbehave. Throw fit. When adult in the room gives to not hurt the party ... Declare victory
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 01:50 AM
Dec 2015

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
32. The beginning of the statement from DNC, Sanders campaign complied, good.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 01:56 AM
Dec 2015

“The Sanders campaign has now complied with the DNC’s request to provide the information that we have requested of them. Based on this information, we are restoring the Sanders campaign’s access to the voter file, but will continue to investigate to ensure that the data that was inappropriately accessed has been deleted and is no longer in possession of the Sanders campaign. The Sanders campaign has agreed to fully cooperate with the continuing DNC investigation of this breach. The fact that data was accessed inappropriately is completely unacceptable, and the DNC expects each campaign to operate with integrity going forward with respect to the voter file.

Uncle Joe

(58,366 posts)
35. There was no need for a death penalty action, the Sanders campaign was cooperating from the
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 01:59 AM
Dec 2015

beginning and there was no counter effort to not cooperate.

Bernie's campaign had already fired one person and was investigating the other allegations.

Schultz and the DNC's heavy handed action went overboard and it came back to bite them in the ass.

 

w4rma

(31,700 posts)
47. Not only was there "no need" but the DNC's action was a broach of contract.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 03:10 AM
Dec 2015

The DNC, according to the contract, *had* to give 10 days written notice before doing anything like this. In her zeal to damage the Sanders campaign, Schultz opened the DNC up to a losing (multi-)million dollar lawsuit.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
58. Then to remove access to the Sanders campaign until there was an agreement to cooperate
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:04 AM
Dec 2015

With the investigation was a correct move after the original agreement of not violating other candidate databases had been broken. This is not what Sanders wanted and a staffer has delivered, all the stomp complaining DWS and the DNC is wrong in light of this staffer.

Nyan

(1,192 posts)
34. Hey, Debbie. Why back down?
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 01:59 AM
Dec 2015

I thought it was a serious crime. Almost like a felony!
Don't u want justice? You know, to save the integrity of democratic process!

aspirant

(3,533 posts)
38. Fight with us Bernie, our power stands with you
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:05 AM
Dec 2015

Big talking, threatening little Debbie is now rightfully eating humble pie.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
61. Not surprising. They locked it down to make sure
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 11:21 AM
Dec 2015

access to individual campaign's proprietary data was not possible. So they released access to the national data they all can use. There was no longer a reason to block the Sanders campaign's access.

At this point, the court case is moot. Access has been restored.

The investigation, however, continues into what the Sanders staffers did while they had access to Clinton data. The logs are still there, so they can still be examined.

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