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CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 01:26 AM Dec 2015

Please be ready for Hillary to show up at tomorrow's debate...

...wearing pastels and sporting a soft hairstyle while she gives a sugary speech about about how she feels bad for Bernie and doesn't agree with the DNC.

She'll try to muster a "Oh, the poor dear" look on her face. It will be the performance of a lifetime.

She'll wax poetic about how this is unfair to Bernie as she parlays this fiasco into an opportunity to leverage herself.

She'll stress party unity. Compassion. Playing fair. Whatever talking points she and her PR flacks decided would be optimal.

Bernie will be tired, stressed out and and running on one hour of sleep--because he's worried about letting his supporters down. Hillary will have slept like a rock--knowing that she can orchestrate chaos in the Sanders campaign with her cohort DWS--inflict horrendous damage and in the end--use it all to end up smelling like a rose in front of a national audience.

Because that's what these people do. That's who they are.



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Please be ready for Hillary to show up at tomorrow's debate... (Original Post) CoffeeCat Dec 2015 OP
Sad little excuse for Bernie's poor debate performances. Dawson Leery Dec 2015 #1
Really? ThePhilosopher04 Dec 2015 #5
Hillary has no say in foreign policy Nyan Dec 2015 #8
Hey, now! Fawke Em Dec 2015 #36
Bernie was a fantastic debater... CoffeeCat Dec 2015 #14
Exactly KingFlorez Dec 2015 #18
Sure he does Jarqui Dec 2015 #21
Bernie WILL be the next president. Fawke Em Dec 2015 #55
++++++++infinity+++++++++++ newfie11 Dec 2015 #60
She and DWS got owned. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2015 #2
And it was all so predictable to anyone with an inch of foresight! AgingAmerican Dec 2015 #22
She'll go all puppy dog eyes for sure ThePhilosopher04 Dec 2015 #3
Seriously... Hepburn Dec 2015 #7
No... CoffeeCat Dec 2015 #16
LOL... Hepburn Dec 2015 #20
We'd better hook ourselves up to some machines before the debate... CoffeeCat Dec 2015 #31
IV alcohol drip??? Hepburn Dec 2015 #32
We'd better go with a vicodin drip and a bottle of wine... CoffeeCat Dec 2015 #35
LOL... Hepburn Dec 2015 #38
I just hope Bernie is ready to bring the fire! ThePhilosopher04 Dec 2015 #4
You've been alerted on ... Fantastic Anarchist Dec 2015 #6
Thanks for letting me know... CoffeeCat Dec 2015 #19
Not sure ... Fantastic Anarchist Dec 2015 #23
How silly Dem2 Dec 2015 #9
No, it was a reality check Hepburn Dec 2015 #12
That would be gallows humor... CoffeeCat Dec 2015 #25
So if I read you correctly Dem2 Dec 2015 #30
Or, she could call Bernie and his campaign..... Sheepshank Dec 2015 #10
Oh yea,...Clinton theater will be back on track.... Segami Dec 2015 #11
I was hoping she would have enough human qualities to show some humility and Hepburn Dec 2015 #15
Save your wise words for those who merit such hope..... Segami Dec 2015 #33
Perhaps she could get some Head and Shoulders, flicking that dandruff off her black top is so sad... peacebird Dec 2015 #37
OMG... Hepburn Dec 2015 #40
Did't Obama do that? Nite Owl Dec 2015 #56
I don't know about that Nyan Dec 2015 #13
"Clinton Goes For the Jugular" AtomicKitten Dec 2015 #24
^^^THIS needs to be an OP!^^^^ peacebird Dec 2015 #39
Go for it if you like. AtomicKitten Dec 2015 #47
Sanders steals, so now you attack Clinton? Classic, predictable. seabeyond Dec 2015 #17
Investigation forthcoming! AgingAmerican Dec 2015 #26
He cheated, he stole and excuses continue, lol. seabeyond Dec 2015 #28
Yeah, sure he did! AgingAmerican Dec 2015 #58
Sanders stole nothing... CoffeeCat Dec 2015 #27
One of four seabeyond Dec 2015 #29
The buck stops at the top. leftofcool Dec 2015 #42
He should own nothing. Sanders did nothing wrong (nt) CoffeeCat Dec 2015 #45
Okay, Sanders' actual national data director... BlueCheese Dec 2015 #43
Sanders didn't conspire with his national data director... CoffeeCat Dec 2015 #49
I do agree that most of the DNC probably wants Clinton to win. BlueCheese Dec 2015 #52
Actually I think Senator Sanders can sleep good tonight notadmblnd Dec 2015 #34
So much hate. BlueCheese Dec 2015 #41
I think she'll go this route... Ino Dec 2015 #44
I disagree, Bernie with a clear conscience will sleep well tonight. Todays_Illusion Dec 2015 #46
The Sander campaign is so full of crap RandySF Dec 2015 #48
So, January and February will be bad months for Hillary? CoffeeCat Dec 2015 #50
No but I am sure that Bernie will stick around for at least Super Teusday. RandySF Dec 2015 #54
Yes, Bernie will finally be gone leftofcool Dec 2015 #51
Sanders is going to sleep in tomorrow and be well rested. joshcryer Dec 2015 #53
I love Bernie the most when he is grumpy... Kalidurga Dec 2015 #57
Most likely, she will be wearing a pant suit, colour, not sure. akbacchus_BC Dec 2015 #59
I for one will NEVER trust Clinton again. Betty Karlson Dec 2015 #61

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
1. Sad little excuse for Bernie's poor debate performances.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 01:33 AM
Dec 2015

He has no answers on foreign policy matters. That will doom him in this climate.

Nyan

(1,192 posts)
8. Hillary has no say in foreign policy
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 01:41 AM
Dec 2015

After royally fucking things up on Iraq and Libya.
Why do u think people chose a guy "with no foreign policy experience"? Because he voted against Iraq War.
So don't tell me about foreign policy.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
14. Bernie was a fantastic debater...
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 01:50 AM
Dec 2015

...and his campaign contributions soared during and after the debate.

I appreciate you trying to make your talking points stick, but they're a load of crap.

Jarqui

(10,126 posts)
21. Sure he does
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 01:59 AM
Dec 2015
He was integral in the Irish peace process and ran through sniper fire in Bosnia.
If Hillary can lie like that, her answers on foreign policy are forever suspect. At least Bernie can be relied upon to give an honest answer. Foreigners are like us - they don't like people lying to them.

When the Iraq war vote came up, which of the two had the right answer?

Who passed on branding Boko Haram as terrorists?

etc.

Bernie has a pretty common sense view on foreign policy - stop getting mixed up in other country's business. It's far cheaper so spending is on things needed on American soil and a lot fewer young Americans get killed or disabled in combat in foreign countries.
 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
2. She and DWS got owned.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 01:37 AM
Dec 2015

I don't think she's going to be able to hide the vindictiveness and entitlement.

She's the opposite of teflon - more like velcro. I thing americans better tune in tomorrow.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
22. And it was all so predictable to anyone with an inch of foresight!
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:00 AM
Dec 2015

Thanks for the free publicity DWS/Hillary!

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
35. We'd better go with a vicodin drip and a bottle of wine...
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:13 AM
Dec 2015

Will definitely take the edge off of the horror show!

We will be feeling no pain, sister!

Hepburn

(21,054 posts)
38. LOL...
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:19 AM
Dec 2015

...that really may be the only thing that can get me through watching HRC and her bullcrap.

 

ThePhilosopher04

(1,732 posts)
4. I just hope Bernie is ready to bring the fire!
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 01:38 AM
Dec 2015

The gloves are now completely off in my book! #GiveEmHellBernie

Fantastic Anarchist

(7,309 posts)
6. You've been alerted on ...
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 01:40 AM
Dec 2015

... with a pretty weak reason:

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

"wearing pastels and sporting a soft hairstyle"

This is as sexist as it gets

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Sat Dec 19, 2015, 12:38 AM, and the Jury voted 2-5 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: This was an abuse of the flagging system and using sexism (which is a real problem) weakens legitimate claims of sexism.
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Coffee Cat is entitled to her opinion and we are in a closely contested primary. Blood runs high on both sides. Post is edgy but not over the top. Leave it.
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Sexist, over the top bashing of our top Democratic candidate.
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
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Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Alerter, get over yourself. Unlike the firewall, this post should stay up. Feel the Bern.
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: The accusation by the alerter that stating that the beginning of this post is "as sexist as it gets" is way off the mark. A person's appearance during a debate is just one part of the entire performance that influences an audience member's overall feelings about a candidate.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
19. Thanks for letting me know...
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 01:58 AM
Dec 2015

Sexist? Seriously.

I guess I'm in good company, because the Clinton camp accused Bernie of being sexist too.

Me (a middle-aged, stay-at-home mom) and Bernie. Raging sexists.

My husband will find that interesting.

So, what happens when one of your posts is alerted? I've never had a post hidden, after 21,000+ posts.

Fantastic Anarchist

(7,309 posts)
23. Not sure ...
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:01 AM
Dec 2015

... but it was a 5-2 in favor to leave it alone. So, I'm glad you don't have to find out.

I was juror six, and though I've never voted to hide a post (goes against my principles), I definitely wasn't going to do so now. The alert was just plain silly.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
25. That would be gallows humor...
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:02 AM
Dec 2015

...but no.

I don't think it's funny. At all.

I think Hillary Clinton is the worst Presidential candidate our party has ever offered to its members.

I think she's self serving. I think she and DWS orchestrated this entire episode. And I think that the final chapter of this bad drama will culminate with Hillary parlaying this into a marketing opportunity for herself, with a national debate audience watching.

She and DWS are probably wishing now that they had scheduled the debate during a time when more than 10 people will be watching.

Dem2

(8,168 posts)
30. So if I read you correctly
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:07 AM
Dec 2015

...can I assume that the person fired by Bernie's campaign was actually an HRC campaign plant?

Why the heck *shouldn't* she use this to her advantage if she can get away with it without seeming petty?

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
10. Or, she could call Bernie and his campaign.....
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 01:45 AM
Dec 2015

A den of thieves. Trump would do it and don't you all claim Hillary is just like Trump?

 

Segami

(14,923 posts)
11. Oh yea,...Clinton theater will be back on track....
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 01:47 AM
Dec 2015

A quick change of scenery flats, new costumes and a select choice of wigs and vuala...........

Hepburn

(21,054 posts)
15. I was hoping she would have enough human qualities to show some humility and
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 01:50 AM
Dec 2015

embarrassment. But I am betting she will not be able to do this.

 

Segami

(14,923 posts)
33. Save your wise words for those who merit such hope.....
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:12 AM
Dec 2015

Carnivore tigers will never change their stripes so don't expect them to become grazers anytime soon.

peacebird

(14,195 posts)
37. Perhaps she could get some Head and Shoulders, flicking that dandruff off her black top is so sad...
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:18 AM
Dec 2015

Nyan

(1,192 posts)
13. I don't know about that
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 01:50 AM
Dec 2015

She might go on a full attack mode. Her campaign's statement was so hostile (and quite laughable).
Remember, she accused Bernie of being sexist. She might actually try to seize this opportunity to attack him, saying how shocked she is.

 

AtomicKitten

(46,585 posts)
24. "Clinton Goes For the Jugular"
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:01 AM
Dec 2015
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/12/clintons-offense-will-be-personal-216962

It appears DWS/HRC miscalculated on this bullshit scheme. The internet has exploded and swear to write in Bernie's name in the GE should he not win the nomination. Well done, ladies. Brava. LOL.
 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
26. Investigation forthcoming!
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:05 AM
Dec 2015

We eagerly await!

DWS/Hillary foolishly believed they could use allegations of a misdemeanor to railroad and destroy his campaign. All they succeeded in doing was give him free publicity and expose themselves as corrupt..

BlueCheese

(2,522 posts)
43. Okay, Sanders' actual national data director...
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:23 AM
Dec 2015

... doesn't represent Sanders, but the DNC is an arm of the Clinton campaign?

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
49. Sanders didn't conspire with his national data director...
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:41 AM
Dec 2015

...to look at Clinton's proprietary campaign data.

And yes, the DNC absolutely is an arm of the Clinton campaign. How could anyone possibly think otherwise?

The entire Clinton campaign strategy is inextricably intertwined with DNC tactics. Have you been paying attention to the ridiculous lack of debates?

DWS ran Clinton's 2008 campaign.



BlueCheese

(2,522 posts)
52. I do agree that most of the DNC probably wants Clinton to win.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:46 AM
Dec 2015

But Sanders' national data director is definitely part of his campaign. If he did something, it's fair to say the Sanders campaign did something.

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
34. Actually I think Senator Sanders can sleep good tonight
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:12 AM
Dec 2015

It was a long tough day, but the DNC relented lest other crap float to the surface. Sander's won this fight.

Ino

(3,366 posts)
44. I think she'll go this route...
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:26 AM
Dec 2015

A vague statement about data security and a comment along the lines of "Sanders didn't cheat, as far as I know" (as in: Obama isn't a Muslim, as far as I know).

She will carefully overpronounce her words, and look back & forth without meeting anyone's eyes.


She always seems to be looking over people's heads when she talks, but this is ridiculous. There is no balcony in this room.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
50. So, January and February will be bad months for Hillary?
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:43 AM
Dec 2015

I'm so sorry. It's going to be a long winter.

Beware, the ides of March!

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
53. Sanders is going to sleep in tomorrow and be well rested.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:46 AM
Dec 2015

And they'll nod and it'll be a twenty second blurb and Clinton might even make a joke "I don't give a damn about supposed fake data breaches" and everyone will clap and be happy.

And I have not a goddamn problem with it.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
57. I love Bernie the most when he is grumpy...
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:53 AM
Dec 2015

and his hair is a mess and he shows he cares more about the people than optics.

akbacchus_BC

(5,704 posts)
59. Most likely, she will be wearing a pant suit, colour, not sure.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 04:02 AM
Dec 2015

You already know she will be going after Mr. Sanders worst than she did President Obama. This is her last chance to become the President of the US. She can smell it but am not sure if she will get elected. Depends who is the nominee of the GOP side, if it is Trump, he will go crazy on her. I prefer her than a republican!

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
61. I for one will NEVER trust Clinton again.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 06:01 AM
Dec 2015

Vote: maybe. But never trust her.

Clinton is a follower, not a leader. She plays every dirty trick from the GOP favorite book "how to ruin democracy and get away with it". And her sponsors give me nightmares.

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