2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumFINALLY, the Sanders campaign cooperates
Had they done this on Wednesday, maybe they wouldn't look so unprincipled:
DNC Chair Statement on Voter File Access
December 19, 2015
Today, DNC Chair Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz issued the following statement:
The Sanders campaign has now complied with the DNCs request to provide the information that we have requested of them. Based on this information, we are restoring the Sanders campaigns access to the voter file, but will continue to investigate to ensure that the data that was inappropriately accessed has been deleted and is no longer in possession of the Sanders campaign. The Sanders campaign has agreed to fully cooperate with the continuing DNC investigation of this breach. The fact that data was accessed inappropriately is completely unacceptable, and the DNC expects each campaign to operate with integrity going forward with respect to the voter file.
The DNC has worked hard to build a state-of-the-art voter file that will help us elect Democrats up and down the ticket in November and beyond, and we will continue to work with our vendor to ensure that a breach of this nature never, ever happens again and that our data is secure.
We are glad that all parties are moving forward and that the candidates and the party can refocus on engaging voters on the issues that matter to them: building on the Presidents legacy of creating jobs, growing the economy, and a robust discussion on how we can keep Americans safe.
http://www.democrats.org/post/dnc-chair-statement-on-voter-file-access
SunSeeker
(51,574 posts)ThePhilosopher04
(1,732 posts)and "finally" is a relative term considering the lawsuit was just filed this afternoon. Blowback is a bitch.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)In fact this is what the DNC ask was to have the Sanders campaign to comply, looks like the Sanders campaign is cooperating which they should.
KingFlorez
(12,689 posts)The restoration of access was based on the Sanders campaign cooperating.
ThePhilosopher04
(1,732 posts)The Sanders campaign gave the DNC the same information they gave them yesterday. Blowback is a bitch. #FeelTheMuthaFuckinBern
KingFlorez
(12,689 posts)DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)I really hope the self anointed Hillary supporters do not think this sort of word salad and goalpost moving will work in the general.
lovemydog
(11,833 posts)I suppose the super pissed off will keep finding other ways to be super pissed off.
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)She didn't think anyone would find out that the same thing happened in 2008 when the Clinton campaigned inappropriately accessed President obama's data. By relenting DWS saves her ass by a hair.
silenttigersong
(957 posts)earthside
(6,960 posts)Debbie Wassermann Schultz got slammed.
The whole progressive social media world signing petitions to the DNC in support of Sanders.
The Sanders campaign cooperated from the beginning and DWS overreacted to try and help out her old pol Mrs. Clinton.
DWS has demonstrated her incompetence again (the 2014 election debacle for the Democrats being the last major screw-up) -- she needs to resign or be fired.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)Dem2
(8,168 posts)I just posted that this would likely be resolved before the debate. Hopefully this is the beginning of the end of this silliness.
OilemFirchen
(7,143 posts)There was no need for a lawsuit. It was ill-advised, completely unnecessary and damaging to the Party.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)Cha
(297,323 posts)place? They Sabotaged their own campaign and now trying to bluster their way out of it by suing the DNC.
BS was always trying to damage the Dem party.. said he couldn't run as a dem.. that he'd be a hypocrite because of the things he's said about it.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)are blaming Clinton and hurting all Democrats in the process.
Cha
(297,323 posts)always.
Patrick Dillon ?@mpdillon
Hard to see how this is just a campaign helpfully trying to alert a vendor of a problem. http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-12-18/sanders-campaign-fires-data-director-after-breach-of-clinton-files
http://theobamadiary.com/2015/12/18/the-presidents-press-conference-4/
catnhatnh
(8,976 posts)but today has been thirsty work and you're just going to add to the bitter tears I plan to drink...
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)part of the scandal to be known.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)The DNC were having their asses handed to them, and they knew it.
And this still won't put it to bed... it'll be written about all weekend and into next week... and further.
That's why they should have dealt with it "in-house" from the get go.
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)They had been asked for 3 days to cooperate and provide assurances that the stolen files were destroyed. They ignored DNC request. They would have come out of the courts looking like turds.
They finally complied with good reason, first to avoid court and second, because Bernie found out what they had been doing behind his back.
I've said it all along, Bernie is a decent enough dude, but a magnet for some people with very poor reasoning and decision making skills.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)femmedem
(8,203 posts)as well as a ten day period for any campaign to cure any default, per the contract. The DNC had no legal authority to block the campaign's access, and would not have prevailed in front of the judge.
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)The judge would've asked, first and foremost, why neither side could sit down and handle the issue out of court, why it had to escalate to the point of absurdity. Lawyers on both sides very much likely talked about this to both the DNC and Sanders campaign, which is why you have such a clean result.
DWS caved, though, because she was taking it personal when I saw her on CNN. She probably got a stern talking to because frankly she was going way out of bounds.
KingFlorez
(12,689 posts)But, they chose to make out as if it was all Hillary's fault and play the victim card. At the end of the day, that course of action was not going to get them back access to the voter file, so they decided to cooperate.
Backslash
(3 posts)According to Jeff Weaver, the Sanders campaign sent over the necessary information last night, and they only went through with the lawsuit because the DNC gave no response:
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)Cha
(297,323 posts)I don't believe a word they say.
Patrick Dillon ?@mpdillon
Hard to see how this is just a campaign helpfully trying to alert a vendor of a problem. http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-12-18/sanders-campaign-fires-data-director-after-breach-of-clinton-files
http://theobamadiary.com/2015/12/18/the-presidents-press-conference-4/
BlueMTexpat
(15,369 posts)their supposed "high ground."
Cha
(297,323 posts)freaking driven snow. The truth comes out one way or another.
Fearless
(18,421 posts)Iliyah
(25,111 posts)Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)nomination system - They realize that and are trying to back down - hoping to try to cause problems later on for the Party when the coast is clear.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)BTW, this scandal proves that what the picture in your sig says is false.
Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)The Clinton campaign and the DNC have insulted the intelligence of the American people and this will not be forgotten. Until now, I have always said that if it came down to it and Hillary was the nominee - I guess I would have no choice but to vote for her. I am a bit less certain now. We will remember it come this November. You are not going to win this election by Nixonian dirty tricks. To focus exclusively on cult politics and the desire to hang out with the cool kids is a deeply misguided approach. I hope wiser voices among Hillary's supporters prevail. They have really screwed the pooch trying to pull this stunt. I hope they wake up and smell the coffee.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)Sanders campaign steals Clinton data from the DNC so of course it's all Hillary's fault.
emsimon33
(3,128 posts)riversedge
(70,242 posts)this dispute--except to say that there data was intentionally searched by Sanders staff. Clinton camp was not named in the lawsuit.
Cha
(297,323 posts)of it. Not. Gonna. Happen.
Patrick Dillon ?@mpdillon
Hard to see how this is just a campaign helpfully trying to alert a vendor of a problem. http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-12-18/sanders-campaign-fires-data-director-after-breach-of-clinton-files
http://theobamadiary.com/2015/12/18/the-presidents-press-conference-4/
Pissing off the wrong people, that's a big no no
Cha
(297,323 posts)totally screwed themselves.. and are now handling it badly.
Pissing off the wrong people as you say.
emsimon33
(3,128 posts)Iliyah
(25,111 posts)w4rma
(31,700 posts)to vote against Clinton. We might have a good DNC chair, currently, if Clinton didn't hold the power she holds in the Democratic Party.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)so you can get to the national DNC level and have a vote on who becomes the next chair come 2018, then.
riversedge
(70,242 posts)No, it is the Sanders staffers who lied.
http://time.com/4155185/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-data/
...............According to data reviewed by TIME, the Sanders campaign appears to have obtained files with lists of voters that the Clinton campaign had cultivated in 10 early states including Iowa and New Hampshire.
Beyond simply reviewing the data, the logs show the Sanders staffers took deliberate steps to harvest and store the information. According to the logs, the Sanders staff created from scratch no fewer than 24 listsconsisting entirely of data pulled down from the Clinton campaigns databaseand saved them to their personal folders.
The logs show the Sanders campaign accessed the Clinton data for nearly one hour beginning around 10:40 p.m. Wednesday. The Sanders staffers were apparently able to view unique voter information along with accompanying information about how likely the voters were to vote for the various candidates, crucial information that the Clinton campaign has likely spent millions of dollars to collect.
The Clinton campaign called for a clear accounting of the breach.
We were informed that our proprietary data was breached by Sanders campaign staff in 25 searches by four different accounts and that this data was saved into the Sanders campaign account, said spokesman Brian Fallon. We are asking that the Sanders campaign and the DNC work expeditiously to ensure that our data is not in the Sanders campaigns account and that the Sanders campaign only have access to their own data.
Moreover, the Sanders staffers who carried out the breach included a top lieutenant for the Vermont senator: Josh Uretsky, the national data director for the campaign.
The Sanders campaign denied that it had downloaded any data, saying that it did not retain information from the Clinton campaign.
They didnt download itthey went in looked around, said Sanders spokesman Michael Briggs, who announced Thursday the campaign was firing Utersky and that they were treating the matter seriously.
Uretsky also told MSNBC that the campaign did not export any records or voter file data and was simply trying to document and understand the scope of the problem..................
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)Coincidentally: Clinton's polling numbers improved over those two months.
highprincipleswork
(3,111 posts)MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)moobu2
(4,822 posts)what a bunch of nincompoops.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)I am sure the campaign of Clinton is very strong, she is ahead in the polls and the need to step up the Sanders campaign is up most and this decision to violate the agreement was violated.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)Alfresco
(1,698 posts)The Sanders campaign had agreed to sign an affidavit attesting to the actions of its staffers during the data breach.
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/12/sanders-campaign-threatens-to-sue-dnc-216942