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Imagine if the breach was reversed!!! No fucking way the DNC removes Hillarys access!!! (Original Post) Logical Dec 2015 OP
It was reversed. Back in 2008 and you are correct Hillarys access was not removed. notadmblnd Dec 2015 #1
Obama also didn't make a crisis out of it. Renew Deal Dec 2015 #4
Impossible to say Renew Deal Dec 2015 #2
But see, Hillary won't be having people on her staff facing potential criminal charges leftofcool Dec 2015 #3
Want to bet no charges are filed? How much? Nt Logical Dec 2015 #6
I think we shall wait and see. leftofcool Dec 2015 #8
No charges will be filed. BlueCheese Dec 2015 #12
That's because Hillary's campaign would have cooperated immediately... MohRokTah Dec 2015 #5
Yes, stronger measures like Bernie suing them and they caved! Nt Logical Dec 2015 #7
The Sanders campaign caved in and finally cooperated. MohRokTah Dec 2015 #9
LOL !!! WillyT Dec 2015 #10
I imagine Clinton would handle it in a professional manner. Worked with the DNC instead of telling seabeyond Dec 2015 #11
I do have a hard time imagining Clinton's campaign losing access. BlueCheese Dec 2015 #13
I'm sure we would not have heard about it!! Douglas Carpenter Dec 2015 #14
What Sanders' campaign did was NOT "nothing." SunSeeker Dec 2015 #15
If only Hillary and her people could come forward so quickly about their long, long Douglas Carpenter Dec 2015 #16
It is Sanders who is playing the victim here. SunSeeker Dec 2015 #17
if one ignores all the facts - I suppose one could think that Douglas Carpenter Dec 2015 #18
Project much? SunSeeker Dec 2015 #19

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
1. It was reversed. Back in 2008 and you are correct Hillarys access was not removed.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:50 AM
Dec 2015

A big deal wasn't made out of it when Howard Dean was DNC Chairman and it was resolved behind the scenes.

Renew Deal

(81,866 posts)
2. Impossible to say
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:51 AM
Dec 2015

But I think Hillary's campaign would have handled it a lot more professionally. They wouldn't have fired a guy if he didn't do anything wrong. Their media person wouldn't have acted like a lunatic in front of a camera. They would have complied without suing the DNC.

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
3. But see, Hillary won't be having people on her staff facing potential criminal charges
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:51 AM
Dec 2015

You do realize that stealing data is a federal crime, right?

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
8. I think we shall wait and see.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:57 AM
Dec 2015

Really, it depends on if Hillary wants to pursue this. She is entitled to do so since it was her data that was stolen.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
5. That's because Hillary's campaign would have cooperated immediately...
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:53 AM
Dec 2015

like it did in 2008.

Sadly, the Sanders campaign refused to cooperate and stronger measures were required.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
9. The Sanders campaign caved in and finally cooperated.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:57 AM
Dec 2015

Had they done so on Wednesday when the breach was revealed, they would have lost no access.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
11. I imagine Clinton would handle it in a professional manner. Worked with the DNC instead of telling
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 03:00 AM
Dec 2015

them to fuck off, until DNC took action. Then I doubt Clinton would be so childish to throw a tantrum and threaten taking 600k a day from the Democratic party.

But then Clinton has been one to support and help build the Democratic Party and her inclinations are not destruction of the party.

BlueCheese

(2,522 posts)
13. I do have a hard time imagining Clinton's campaign losing access.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 03:02 AM
Dec 2015

However, I'm also imagining the enormous uproar it would have caused in the media. They wouldn't let it go for years. If Chelsea Clinton ever ran for president, they'd still be talking about it 20 years later, like people still talk about Whitewater.

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
14. I'm sure we would not have heard about it!!
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 03:04 AM
Dec 2015

Last edited Sat Dec 19, 2015, 05:18 AM - Edit history (1)

Either it would have been ignored or perhaps equally likely - a friendly and concerned phone call would have been made between the DNC and Hillary's campaign to clear up the misunderstanding. No need to make a scandal over nothing.

One thing the DNC would not have done is try to use it sabotage Hillary's campaign.

SunSeeker

(51,574 posts)
15. What Sanders' campaign did was NOT "nothing."
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 03:13 AM
Dec 2015
Summaries of data logs provided to the AP show the Sanders team spent nearly an hour in the database reviewing information on Clinton's high-priority voters and other data from nearly a dozen states, including first-to-vote Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina.

Some of these voter lists were saved into a folder named "Targets," according to the logs. Uretsky's deputy appeared to focus on pulling data on South Carolina and Iowa voters based on turnout and support — or lack of support — for Clinton.

The Sanders campaign employees who accessed the Clinton voter information without authorization appear to have run afoul of the federal Computer Fraud and Abuse Act, said Jason Weinstein, a former supervisor of the Justice Department's computer crimes section.

Those employees "have reason to be concerned about legal exposure," he said, for what appears to fit the definition of illegal hacking.


http://bigstory.ap.org/article/da7e5f2765814506a2519ea03055c1e6/dnc-barring-sanders-team-accessing-data-after-breach

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
16. If only Hillary and her people could come forward so quickly about their long, long
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 05:18 AM
Dec 2015

list of scandals. But, no. Let's just forget about how they behaved in 2008 and how the DNC ignored and suppressed information about breaches in Internet security when the Sanders team alerted them. They are going to play the victim and blame and blame everyone in the universe including the "great right wing conspiracy" for all their malfeasance.

Even DWS admits that Sanders knew nothing about this personally. I came to realize a while ago just how slimy the Clinton machine is. But, I was still shocked by this.

SunSeeker

(51,574 posts)
17. It is Sanders who is playing the victim here.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 05:25 AM
Dec 2015

Hillary actually is a victim of Sanders campaign's data theft.

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