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Will the DNC fire NGP VAN? Will they even investigate why they allowed repeated (Original Post) cali Dec 2015 OP
despite the promise to restore access restorefreedom Dec 2015 #1
Good because I don't trust the dnc, dws,or hrc elehhhhna Dec 2015 #3
i think all their dirty secrets are about to come out restorefreedom Dec 2015 #5
Won't the court more or less immediately dismiss it as moot? BlueCheese Dec 2015 #6
depends on the issue being alleged restorefreedom Dec 2015 #8
I do not think that changing vendors at this time is practical let alone possible. longship Dec 2015 #2
What!?!! And take man-power away from..... daleanime Dec 2015 #4
My understanding is that NGP VAN is the only game in town... BlueCheese Dec 2015 #7
NGP VAN is the gold standard. JaneyVee Dec 2015 #9
Hillary's campaign did the same thing to Obama in 2008. cali Dec 2015 #10
Yeah ok. JaneyVee Dec 2015 #11
The first answer is "no" Le Taz Hot Dec 2015 #12
I have been accessing this DU database for 10 years Mnpaul Dec 2015 #13

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
1. despite the promise to restore access
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 08:51 AM
Dec 2015

the lawsuit is still on. i think discovery is going to be eye opening

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
5. i think all their dirty secrets are about to come out
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:07 AM
Dec 2015

which is why the bernie campaign is wisely not dropping the suit. this is much bigger than his access to the database.

it goes very deep, and now the truth will come out.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
8. depends on the issue being alleged
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 11:10 AM
Dec 2015

if it was just the access, then yes. if there is an allegation of collusion with evidence or even worse, that clinton accessed his files with the help of dws, expect all hell to break loose.

longship

(40,416 posts)
2. I do not think that changing vendors at this time is practical let alone possible.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:15 AM
Dec 2015

Regretfully, it is just not possible to change such large infrastructure this late in the game without a rather large outage. Whether we like it or not, we are stuck with NGP VAN as the DNC data provider. There is also a matter of cost, something the DNC would have a difficult time justifying.

However, I do think a full audit is appropriate. Indeed, why the security lapses?

Plus, I support the lawsuit going forward, however it is likely to be declared moot since access has been restored. (IANAL)


BlueCheese

(2,522 posts)
7. My understanding is that NGP VAN is the only game in town...
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 11:09 AM
Dec 2015

... for Democratic voter lists.

Software security is hard. Lots of companies that have a lot to lose repeatedly get burned-- why do you think Windows gets patched every month?

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
12. The first answer is "no"
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 11:18 AM
Dec 2015

because they're the only game in town and have been for years. Second, if the lawsuit continues and the judge rules that an independent auditor be brought in, NGP VAN and the DNC are toast. Btw, those weren't "security lapses." They were intentionally put there for EXACTLY this purpose, to do a "gotcha" to bury the Bernie campaign. But, as usual, they underestimated Bernie's supporters and the backlash that is/will be coming down is something the political community hasn't seen in decades. They've no idea what they've unleashed here.

Mnpaul

(3,655 posts)
13. I have been accessing this DU database for 10 years
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 11:33 AM
Dec 2015

not once have I had access to other users data. A large, constantly changing database being accessed by thousands of users. Funny that.

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