2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumToo Many Malicious Memes to Manage.
Please, Team Hillary, if you're going to push out smears against Bernie, could you spread them out a little for us?
In the last 24 hours we've heard that he's a criminal mastermind, disorganized, he can't win without Iowa and New Hampshire (and South Carolina and Nevada), He's angry, he's desperate, and he's a liar. The Clinton/DNC/DLC/Third-Way fax machines must be near melting point right now.
Besides the fact that all of these smears could accurately be used to describe the 2008 Clinton campaign, it wastes all of our time if you spread out so much bullshit that it chokes the grass instead of helping it grow.
My friendly advice is that you try to stick to one meme per day until you learn how to use them without them blowing up in your face.
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
Jester Messiah
(4,711 posts)They should definitely get combat pay though!
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
virtualobserver
(8,760 posts)the incoherence is astonishing
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)last1standing
(11,709 posts)Does it make you proud to post lies? Do you feel better about yourself as a person now?
Just curious?
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)last1standing
(11,709 posts)That is a lie, which your candidate supports. She's a proven liar.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)last1standing
(11,709 posts)n/t
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)last1standing
(11,709 posts)People who get lost in lies generally do anything they can to justify them to themselves.
PatrickforO
(14,577 posts)Here's one that shows how deeply 'in the bag' the DNC is for Clinton: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251920505
Here's one by a techie who worked for the DNC in 04: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251912740
Here's one by another techie: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251916203
See, Clinton can't hold a candle to Bernie on the kitchen table and moral issues most Americans care about. So we've had meme after meme rise up from her campaign and the Third Way - about Bernie's supposed problems with blacks, Hispanics, women, about how we should fear tax increases if Bernie gets in office, about how he can sell lots of stuff and fill arenas but...he can't win.
Sorry. I'm sick to death of my shitty, rationed healthcare for which I pay 18.5% of my gross, and I'm tired of union busting and 'free trade.' I think private prisons are immoral and need to be ended ASAP. Our infrastructure needs some significant upgrades. Corporations and billionaires need to pay their fair share, and Wall Street needs to be reined in beyond Clinton's plan.
Basically in Washington there are about 800 people who call the shots and if they wanted us to have single payer, we would. Right now. If they wanted to legalize pot and end the failed and immoral war on drugs, we would. Right now. If they wanted to make college free for our children they would. Right now. If they wanted to take aggressive steps to mitigate global warming, they would, right now. If they wanted to keep good jobs in America, they could - right now. If they wanted to use the government's power to negotiate drug prices down, they could - right now.
But they don't because they are corporate owned and they care more about pleasing their corporate masters than they do about the American people.
That is total bullshit, and Americans are profoundly angry at the establishment. The right wingers have been propagandized to hate government and see it as being to blame. On the left we see the enemy as corporatists whose unsustainable neoliberal capitalism has metastasized throughout the world like a stage 4 cancer.
I'm for Bernie because he wants to have a political revolution whereby we, the American people, hold politicians' feet to the fire and make sure they are doing stuff that actually helps us. He's got a great platform and our lives would be much less economically uncertain and stressful with Bernie's policies in place.
That is why the entire establishment hates Bernie because he wants to rein in the excesses of capitalism and give us a New Deal. No one in the establishment wants a new New Deal - hell they've spent the last 75 years trying to overturn the old one. What worries me is that the establishment simply doesn't see that America is maybe, MAYBE 10-15 years away from a real revolution, and if they just did a few things that are on Bernie's platform they could buy another 100 years of profitability.
But...nope....they are gonna try their best to destroy Sanders' campaign, discredit him, totally destroy him. We can't let that happen, Janey, because he's the only presidential candidate to speak truth to power since Bobby.
JTFrog
(14,274 posts)She has a brother named Steve.
I haven't seen anything that says she has a brother named Keith or a nephew named Aharon.
Debbie Wasserman Schultz/Family/
Shelby Schultz
Daughter
Jake Schultz
Son
Steve Wasserman
Brother
Larry Wasserman
Father
Ann Wasserman
Mother
Steve Schultz
Spouse
Rebecca Schultz
Daughter
http://www.nj.com/cumberland/index.ssf/2011/12/forbes_30_under_30_list_featur.html
Aharon Wasserman credits his very large family, which includes aunt and Assemblywoman Celeste Riley, with helping him understand the way groups of people interact and work together on projects.
PatrickforO
(14,577 posts)But it is still a bald attempt to discredit Sanders and destroy his candidacy. The two techie links stand.
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)for two whole months. And Debbie let them.
wildeyed
(11,243 posts)Link please.
Divernan
(15,480 posts)wildeyed
(11,243 posts)And Santa's going to bring you a pony too! Oh wait, saying that doesn't make it true
Just like saying that Clinton colluded with the DNC to steal Sanders data does not make it true.
PatrickforO
(14,577 posts)Here's one that shows how deeply 'in the bag' the DNC is for Clinton: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251920505
Here's one by a techie who worked for the DNC in 04: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251912740
Here's one by another techie: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251916203
JTFrog
(14,274 posts)I haven't seen anything that says she has a brother named Keith or a nephew named Aharon.
Debbie Wasserman Schultz/Family/
Shelby Schultz
Daughter
Jake Schultz
Son
Steve Wasserman
Brother
Larry Wasserman
Father
Ann Wasserman
Mother
Steve Schultz
Spouse
Rebecca Schultz
Daughter
Aharon Wasserman credits his very large family, which includes aunt and Assemblywoman Celeste Riley, with helping him understand the way groups of people interact and work together on projects.
wildeyed
(11,243 posts)You got nothing. A Facebook JEPG and two anonymous internet posts are not proof. Crap, this is like arguing with anti-vaxxers where they send you to websites that only link sources that are five years out of date or data on their own website.
That people worked together once does not prove that they are now colluding to steal a Presidential election.
Anonymous posts on the internet count for nothing without data or facts to back them up.
Thanks for playing! Please enter to win again next week!
DanTex
(20,709 posts)And then rather than apologizing he tried to play the victim.
last1standing
(11,709 posts)At least you're wasting your time here where the fishing is thin instead of spreading your bullshit smears where the gullible could be fooled.
I appreciate that, at least.
DanTex
(20,709 posts)last1standing
(11,709 posts)But if you think you can wash the stick of those lies off your skin after you've done your best to smear a good man and a great Democrat, please continue.
DanTex
(20,709 posts)last1standing
(11,709 posts)n/t
DanTex
(20,709 posts)last1standing
(11,709 posts)Even Lee Atwater lamented his ways on his deathbed. Please think about that.
DanTex
(20,709 posts)valerief
(53,235 posts)PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)They are trying to take the focus off Bernie kicking ass.