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no more banksters

(395 posts)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 11:12 AM Dec 2015

The war on Sanders officially started

Signs of provocative operations by the establishment

It was a matter of time until the establishment open a war against Bernie Sanders. From across the US political spectrum it becomes more and more obvious that Sanders is the one that the establishment fears most.

The new civil war inside the Democratic party shows that the system wants to isolate Sanders as the most dangerous opponent of Hillary for the Democratic Party's nominee.

http://failedevolution.blogspot.gr/2015/12/the-war-on-sanders-officially-started.html
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The war on Sanders officially started (Original Post) no more banksters Dec 2015 OP
Fear Bernie? upaloopa Dec 2015 #1
Can always tell when Hillary supporters have no rebuttal. RichVRichV Dec 2015 #9
They stole Hillary's data moobu2 Dec 2015 #18
Are you implying Bernie is the "person" who cheated? reformist2 Dec 2015 #23
Bernie is responsible for his campaign. moobu2 Dec 2015 #38
They reported it months ago. Why are Hillary supporters picking and choosing. bkkyosemite Dec 2015 #78
Bernie and his incompetent thieves! RichVRichV Dec 2015 #24
Unproven allegations AgingAmerican Dec 2015 #25
Ask Josh he admitted what he did on MSNBC ......... Historic NY Dec 2015 #65
you have no idea of what technically happened.... eom Leftyforever Dec 2015 #33
You have no idea what I know. moobu2 Dec 2015 #45
If you technically understood what took place you would be saying it... Leftyforever Dec 2015 #47
The Bernie Sanders campaign stole Hilary's data moobu2 Dec 2015 #48
Moobu2... use all the emotionally charged verbiage you like.. Leftyforever Dec 2015 #50
I know the Bernie Sanders campaign stole Hillary's data moobu2 Dec 2015 #56
That is a bullshit narrative propagated by dishonest people. [nt] Jester Messiah Dec 2015 #53
That's right. Blame the victim like the Bernie Sanders campaign is doing. moobu2 Dec 2015 #59
The only victim here is the truth, which you continue to savage. [nt] Jester Messiah Dec 2015 #62
The Bernie Sanders campaign stole Hillary's data moobu2 Dec 2015 #64
Because it's a lie. Jester Messiah Dec 2015 #76
Hillary did nothing like in 08....... bkkyosemite Dec 2015 #79
+1 Leftyforever Dec 2015 #32
+1 treestar Dec 2015 #67
Yes Hillary who is and has been way out front in the lead workinclasszero Dec 2015 #75
The DNC DLC Third Way Establishment Is Apoplectic About A Bernie Presidency - Thermonuclear War Begi cantbeserious Dec 2015 #2
ooh scary Third Way DLC Neoliberals redstateblues Dec 2015 #42
Derision - The First Sign Of Nothing Better To Say cantbeserious Dec 2015 #44
The war on Sanders started when he said he was exploring a run, which was some months before his merrily Dec 2015 #3
Some times, IMO, fear causes those threatened to show their true colors. Hepburn Dec 2015 #51
K&R and bookmarked Betty Karlson Dec 2015 #4
Dangerous VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #5
We knew it would. haikugal Dec 2015 #6
Oh yes! Rosa Luxemburg Dec 2015 #13
+1 Leftyforever Dec 2015 #34
please bigtree Dec 2015 #7
you have no idea what technically happened.... eom Leftyforever Dec 2015 #35
Fail. Please try again and use facts and not fantasy. TIA...n/t Hepburn Dec 2015 #52
STOP PLAYING THE VICTIM. JaneyVee Dec 2015 #8
Right...sounds oh, so REPUBLICAN.....always the vicitim... Gloria Dec 2015 #20
DWS got caught trying to rig the election on behalf of the Clinton campaign AgingAmerican Dec 2015 #28
BWAHAHAHAHAHA! JaneyVee Dec 2015 #30
Really? Stop calling a set-up a set-up? Jester Messiah Dec 2015 #57
There is no defense treestar Dec 2015 #69
+1 treestar Dec 2015 #68
Well, since he isn't a Democrat Gloria Dec 2015 #10
This is sarcasm, right? Ino Dec 2015 #17
No, it's true if you really use your brain Gloria Dec 2015 #19
blowhard addiction? Ino Dec 2015 #21
pay attention much ? eom Leftyforever Dec 2015 #36
Poor Bernie. His staff steals things and he gets to be a victim. leftofcool Dec 2015 #11
They did no such thing, but keep pimping that BS narrative. [nt] Jester Messiah Dec 2015 #60
Bernie asks to run as a "lesser of two evils" Democrat even though he isn't a Democrat... LuvLoogie Dec 2015 #12
By his own campaign staff, stealing Clinton's data. DanTex Dec 2015 #14
"Sanders is the one that the establishment fears most." MohRokTah Dec 2015 #15
Nothing will be hilarious when Trump wins bccx Dec 2015 #41
+1 treestar Dec 2015 #71
Total BS! Andy823 Dec 2015 #16
Yep, and the HillShills are upset that this shameless attempt to Dean-Scream Bernie backfired. backscatter712 Dec 2015 #22
. haikugal Dec 2015 #27
Well, he is now seen as a thief so I guess it hasn't really backfired. leftofcool Dec 2015 #31
not a chance ..... Leftyforever Dec 2015 #39
Only by liars and the gullible. Jester Messiah Dec 2015 #77
The "Then They Fight You" Stage fredamae Dec 2015 #26
Trump will unfortunately win bccx Dec 2015 #29
Hillary will beat Trump redstateblues Dec 2015 #43
Deportation cannot be done by executive order treestar Dec 2015 #74
Sanders campaign team has done a great disservice to Sanders, by the Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #37
Ahh- victimhood redstateblues Dec 2015 #40
its been on since he announced restorefreedom Dec 2015 #46
K/R UglyGreed Dec 2015 #49
Oh yeah it has! Le Taz Hot Dec 2015 #54
This is an Iota in the Sea of lies Hillary is CONSTANTLY exposed, Please another diversion at a Key orpupilofnature57 Dec 2015 #55
Sanders steals and you vilify the victim? seabeyond Dec 2015 #61
Sanders drops the bomb with theft to start the war. Is this an example of how he would be president? seabeyond Dec 2015 #58
I'll still vote for Bernie if he is the nominee. MineralMan Dec 2015 #63
+ 1 orpupilofnature57 Dec 2015 #70
OMG poor Sanders! treestar Dec 2015 #66
Don't you just feel a sad for the man? Why shouldn't he be allowed to cheat, with no repercussions. seabeyond Dec 2015 #72
Yeah, when you are fighting The Establishment treestar Dec 2015 #73

RichVRichV

(885 posts)
9. Can always tell when Hillary supporters have no rebuttal.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 11:21 AM
Dec 2015

You roll out the rofl emotes. It's kind of humorous in it's predictability.

moobu2

(4,822 posts)
38. Bernie is responsible for his campaign.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 11:42 AM
Dec 2015

and he didn't deal with this very well at all. No, Bernie Sanders didnt personally steal the data but he caused this huge scandal by not coming clean right away and taking responsibility for it and laying out his plan to rectify the situation etc...

bkkyosemite

(5,792 posts)
78. They reported it months ago. Why are Hillary supporters picking and choosing.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 01:37 PM
Dec 2015

DNC caused this "huge scandal"

RichVRichV

(885 posts)
24. Bernie and his incompetent thieves!
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 11:33 AM
Dec 2015

1) notified months in advance how they could breach.

2) Marked what they accessed.

3) Notified after the breach.



Come on Bernie! You suck at hiring thieves!

moobu2

(4,822 posts)
45. You have no idea what I know.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 12:03 PM
Dec 2015

but i know the Bernie Sanders campaign stole Hillarys data and now they want to blame the victim. I know that. Theft is theft and blaming the victim is blaming the victim regardless of the technology.

 

Leftyforever

(317 posts)
47. If you technically understood what took place you would be saying it...
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 12:09 PM
Dec 2015

instead you are using words like... stole, victim, theft.. you have no clue what happened

 

Leftyforever

(317 posts)
50. Moobu2... use all the emotionally charged verbiage you like..
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 12:12 PM
Dec 2015

you no not the technical parameters of what happened....

moobu2

(4,822 posts)
56. I know the Bernie Sanders campaign stole Hillary's data
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 12:16 PM
Dec 2015

it doesn't matter if they used a computer program to do it it's still called theft all day long. Try to use some common sense if you have any.

moobu2

(4,822 posts)
59. That's right. Blame the victim like the Bernie Sanders campaign is doing.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 12:18 PM
Dec 2015

do anything but take responsability for the unethical behaviour from the Benrie Sanders campain staff.

moobu2

(4,822 posts)
64. The Bernie Sanders campaign stole Hillary's data
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 12:21 PM
Dec 2015

they did it. How is that me savaging the truth? weird.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
67. +1
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 12:42 PM
Dec 2015

On another thread there are some of Hillary's 2008 campaign literature pieces. They are posted to condemn Hillary for the way she opposed Obama. Then I wondered how is it Hillary has not done the equivalent to Bernie? I have yet to see any Hillary campaign literature attempting to "smear" Bernie.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
75. Yes Hillary who is and has been way out front in the lead
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 12:54 PM
Dec 2015

in all the real polls is scared of Bernie..

merrily

(45,251 posts)
3. The war on Sanders started when he said he was exploring a run, which was some months before his
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 11:15 AM
Dec 2015

unofficial announcement in 2015. It recently hit the fan more visibly, and less subtlely than in the past.

Hepburn

(21,054 posts)
51. Some times, IMO, fear causes those threatened to show their true colors.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 12:14 PM
Dec 2015

Seems to me thatthe heavy handedness of the HRC Coronation Committee, aka the DNC, showed total fear of Bernie yesterday. I am betting that the internal numbers for HRC are not all that great and the inevitable coronation is merely nothing more than a fantasy.

bigtree

(85,998 posts)
7. please
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 11:18 AM
Dec 2015

...no one made the Sanders campaign access the data. It wasn't automatically available. Accessing it required a will and effort on the part of those who deliberately viewed and saved the data.

The 'establishment' isn't responsible for the Sanders campaign shooting themselves in the foot. This doesn't represent any 'revolution'. It's more of a regression into politics as usual.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
28. DWS got caught trying to rig the election on behalf of the Clinton campaign
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 11:36 AM
Dec 2015

Any publicity is good publicity for Sanders.

 

Jester Messiah

(4,711 posts)
57. Really? Stop calling a set-up a set-up?
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 12:17 PM
Dec 2015

"Look, I know they tried to mug you, but could you stop calling them muggers?"

Gloria

(17,663 posts)
10. Well, since he isn't a Democrat
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 11:21 AM
Dec 2015

maybe he shouldn't be getting to use the DNC system at all...his people are dishonest and frankly,
he is, too...because he says the same stuff over an over, knowing it's unrealistic and not offering any real
path to any solutions at all. Pied Piper a la Trump...
He is a career politician and he is loving the attention, because, in the end, it really is all about HIM.
(Oh, and having his family on the payroll sometimes....)

Gloria

(17,663 posts)
19. No, it's true if you really use your brain
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 11:29 AM
Dec 2015

and not be carried away by Hillary-hate and a lot of blowhard addiction....

LuvLoogie

(7,011 posts)
12. Bernie asks to run as a "lesser of two evils" Democrat even though he isn't a Democrat...
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 11:24 AM
Dec 2015

Makes a fund-sharing agreement. Gains access to the Democratic voter database. Abuses that access and sues the DNC for making them take Hllary's proprietary data. That war on Bernie?

bccx

(4 posts)
41. Nothing will be hilarious when Trump wins
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 11:46 AM
Dec 2015

I'm for Hillary and she probably wins the primary and loses to Trump due to too many democrats so bitter that they stay home.


Prepare for mass deportations, overturning of roe vs wade and the affordable care act. Trump will make America great for Trump.

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
16. Total BS!
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 11:26 AM
Dec 2015

You may want this to be some kind of war in the party, I thin lot of posters here do, but it's plain old bullshit, that's all.

bccx

(4 posts)
29. Trump will unfortunately win
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 11:36 AM
Dec 2015

The Stars having aligned for him. Split vote among 14 republicans. Bitter democratic primary will enough supporters of the candidate who doesn't win to stay home or vote non dem in protest.

Trump will have a lot of people to thank at his inaguuration.

Dems who refused to vote out of bitterness
BLM protesters who seem to hate white democrats far more than tea party republicans

Debbie Wasserman Schultz. I'm for Hillary but she is detrimental to the party.

Trump will then thank the poor conservative whites who are the heart of his campaign. They will still be poor in 2020 but Trump will convince them to blame democrats.


Trump's first order of business will be an executive order for a mass deportation.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
74. Deportation cannot be done by executive order
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 12:54 PM
Dec 2015

there is a set of laws in place. Trump would quit within a month when he finds he is supposed to execute the law not make it and execute it on the spot. I'd watch for his VP pick.

However, Trump is too out-there for the average voters. He's only leading a large pack of Republicans. It's still even a minority of Republicans that support him.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
37. Sanders campaign team has done a great disservice to Sanders, by the
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 11:42 AM
Dec 2015

Reaction Sanders has taken by firing the staff member he is not happy. Since he has agreed to the investigation it restores my faith in him, not so much the other member accounts which may still be working in his campaign. Claiming to be a victim is nit going to help his campaign. Either he sells himself or he fails.

 

orpupilofnature57

(15,472 posts)
55. This is an Iota in the Sea of lies Hillary is CONSTANTLY exposed, Please another diversion at a Key
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 12:15 PM
Dec 2015

moment, not Career painted with lies and cheating .

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
63. I'll still vote for Bernie if he is the nominee.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 12:20 PM
Dec 2015

He's a good guy. I wish he'd come out and say something about this incident, though, in person. Maybe tonight we'll hear from him.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
72. Don't you just feel a sad for the man? Why shouldn't he be allowed to cheat, with no repercussions.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 12:46 PM
Dec 2015
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