2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumbigwillq
(72,790 posts)Always has been. Most likely always will be.
mmonk
(52,589 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)Clintons?
Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)maybe it was a setup after all?
merrily
(45,251 posts)bvf
(6,604 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)I was willing to give him a pass only because he was a C++ programmer at one point.
Response to SoapBox (Original post)
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Fantastic Anarchist
(7,309 posts)In English please?
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)Ends justify the means....nice guy image is now forever tarnished by his followers....
Fantastic Anarchist
(7,309 posts)that statement is absolutely divorced from reality.
bvf
(6,604 posts)Fantastic Anarchist
(7,309 posts)floriduck
(2,262 posts)for maintaining some sense of integrity on this site.
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)Clearly Bernie supporters are trying to silence any dissent against their fallen angel.
JTFrog
(14,274 posts)This initial lashing out from being disappointed and embarrassed is only human nature. Eventually they will move on to the other stages of grief. Hopefully some sanity will return soon.
Leftyforever
(317 posts)Right out of Karl Rove's play book...
floriduck
(2,262 posts)you see no questionable ties or conflict of interest in the players tied to either the vendor or the DNC's support of your candidate. Instead you want to focus on a low level staffer whose activities may or may not have been nefarious. You see nothing wrong with the withholding of campaign data without a complete audit.
I too want an audit performed by an independent source to see how faulty the database is and who else accessed campaign data for all candidates. But I want the debate delayed until that time and I want all candidates data made available to them. And if the problem lies with either the IT vendor or the DNC, I want DWS removed or even charged criminally.
Juicy_Bellows
(2,427 posts)libdem4life
(13,877 posts)hope it all go away and get off their high horses. This is premeditated conflict of interest. I hope Sanders can take his info elsewhere. But if not, this is pretty damning.
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
Ino
(3,366 posts)Nathaniel Pearlman was chief technology officer for Hillary Clinton's 2008 presidential campaign. Pearlman supervised the campaigns IT director Bryan Pagliano, who later set up and managed Clintons private email server during her tenure as Secretary of State. Pagliano was the one who pleaded the Fifth Amendment in a closed-door hearing at the House Benghazi Committee. All roads lead to China Clinton and/or the DNC and NGP-VAN
erronis
(15,303 posts)JimDandy
(7,318 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)Democratic national politics is a tight little club
DanTex
(20,709 posts)Armstead
(47,803 posts)Just like everything else surrounding the Clinton/DLC/Third Way matrix
DanTex
(20,709 posts)So a guy who founded a political database company used to work in the White House. Shocker!
Armstead
(47,803 posts)Only when it involves those trying to change it.
I know you'll say you're more progressive than Clinton and would agree with Sanders, if only....
DanTex
(20,709 posts)But there's nothing troubling about this OP.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)DanTex
(20,709 posts)But I definitely don't care about who works for this database company.
erronis
(15,303 posts)The IT field is still the Wild West with very little enforced personal integrity. I guess it just mirrors the people/corporations it works for.
ChiciB1
(15,435 posts)relatives of DWS are involved either. I've said it many times before, was never a Hillary supporter before, nor was I a big Obama supporter either, but I really NEVER thought the DLC/THIRD WAY did such a bang up job of changing the Democratic Party I joined way back when I was 21.
So many here keep saying Bernie isn't a REAL Democrat, but I MUST say he's MUCH MORE of the type of Democrat was when I joined the DEMOCRATIC PARTY way back then.
They used to fight they system, not be a PART or HEAD of the system! I want my Party back and to me Bernie is fighting for THAT Democratic Party. I don't like saying that either because Democrats used to be known as the Party for the People!
Who said the FISH rots from the top down????
mhatrw
(10,786 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)moobu2
(4,822 posts)artislife
(9,497 posts)" Ive never voted for anyone who wasnt a democrat, and never will. I just wont vote this year if Barrack is the nominee, seriously, I would die before Id ever cast a vote for that fake. No one in my house will vote for him either. He cant win the GE anyway. What a waste of a perfect chance to take back the Wh."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5847315
It's not just the extreme smearing of the President as 'that fake' nor it is just your insistence that you would never, ever vote for him. It's mostly about the fact that you insisted he could not win the general election, which in retrospect has been proven to be extremely incorrect, twice.
So did you vote for Obama in 08 after all? How about those 'in your house'? Were you shocked when he won?
Another because it is so very telling:
Another 2008 moobu2 screed:
"For 20 years, virtually ALL of his adult life Barack closely associated with a hateful, vengeful America hating racist. That's not going to heal shit. All that's going to do is give us 4 more years of Repuk rule. "
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5131707
erronis
(15,303 posts)We are not allowed to say that we wouldn't vote for a democratic candidate in the GE if they won the nomination.
And yet, here it has happened before with no repercussions.
Favoritism, much?
artislife
(9,497 posts)Though, sometimes it is a bit scary.
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)overwhelming.......
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)"rotten to the core" defining a democratic candidate on a democratic board rotten to the core should not be acceptable. I understand that it will likely stand, because the jury system is messed up. But this should be alerted on for the improper ugliness.
You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:22 AM, and the Jury voted 1-6 to LEAVE IT.
Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: OP calls it like it is.
Should we support corrupt politicians just because they want to slap a D after their names, rather than actually act like Democrats should?
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: F**king please. True Democrats wouldn't be trying to fix a primary by having debates on Saturday night, and engaging in all kinds of questionable tactics to ensure one candidate gets the nod. Someone can't handle the truth.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: nah
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Refute, don't censor.
Juror #7 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
arcane1
(38,613 posts)The skin grows thinner by the day
Attorney in Texas
(3,373 posts)notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)thanks for posting
PatrickforO
(14,577 posts)'Bernie steals and then gets to be the victim.'
Nope. This was a clumsy attempt to ratfuck Bernie's campaign that is backfiring on Clinton and the DNC big time.
They don't control the message. We do.
Single payer healthcare, free college, removing the payroll tax cap for stronger Social Security, making corporations and billionaires pay their fair share, reinstating Glass-Steagall and other regulations on Wall Street so they can't screw us quite so easily, investing in the infrastructure, raising minimum wages, reforming the justice system, de-privatizing prisons, strengthening unions so workers get a fairer share...
THAT'S THE MESSAGE.
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)Wonderful post. Honest, insightful, concise. What's not to love?
Please consider making this an OP!
JTFrog
(14,274 posts)I haven't seen anything that says she has a brother named Keith or a nephew named Aharon.
Debbie Wasserman Schultz/Family/
Shelby Schultz
Daughter
Jake Schultz
Son
Steve Wasserman
Brother
Larry Wasserman
Father
Ann Wasserman
Mother
Steve Schultz
Spouse
Rebecca Schultz
Daughter
http://www.nj.com/cumberland/index.ssf/2011/12/forbes_30_under_30_list_featur.html
Aharon Wasserman credits his very large family, which includes aunt and Assemblywoman Celeste Riley, with helping him understand the way groups of people interact and work together on projects.
Hard to believe how gullible some folks can be.
Will wait to see if OP has the integrity to delete this bogus crap.
edit: I guess not. They are still spreading the lies in other threads. That's a shame.
Cynical Sam
(35 posts)...how does this AWESOME graphic get put into the corporate media?
***Crickets***? No chance?
Uncle Joe
(58,366 posts)Thanks for the thread, SoapBox.
Indydem
(2,642 posts)These people you are attacking, because of their long history of serving the Democrat party, are the HEROES!
Instead, you have thrown your support behind a guy who has never done anything for the Democrat party, and at the moment is just using it to get access to their voter records and party structure.
When he loses this primary, he's not going to endorse Clinton, he's going to go back to Vermont and be a crazy haired fringe asshole who doesn't get anything accomplished and is still not a Democrat.
God, I cannot wait until you Bernie supporters take your balls and go home; I'm tired of the game you are playing trying to destroy the Democrat party.
artislife
(9,497 posts)bits of your breakfast flying out of your mouth as you rant around?
nearly sprayed some of my own reading that.
historylovr
(1,557 posts)I was rolling my eyes at that post but you made me laugh so hard my husband thought I was losing it.
Flying Squirrel
(3,041 posts)Number23
(24,544 posts)Unlike so terribly much of what gets posted here.
frylock
(34,825 posts)You seem nice.
Agony
(2,605 posts)mostly these days, political operatives are more like mercenaries.
My Party needs a re-tooling.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)Skidmore
(37,364 posts)Democrats work for the DNC. Bernie wasn't a Democrat until he needed to get on ballots. I wonder why he doesn't have people working in the party? Defies logic.
artislife
(9,497 posts)I thought he ran as a Democrat so not to syphon votes away from the other Dem. He has always said he would support the nominee.
Though if he changed his mind now, who would be that surprised?
Indydem
(2,642 posts)With Bernie supporters claiming, implying, and straight out stating they won't support Clinton in the general?
Let Bernie run his independent campaign without access to DNC voter lists and see what happens.
Let's separate the wheat from the chaff and start getting rid of these Socialist dead-enders in the party that are setting us back 50 years.
artislife
(9,497 posts)in terms of the "Socialist dead-enders" leaving. But the party would certainly lose the wh which I think is the whole point of this endeavor.
Not that I think she will ever be president anyway.
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)It just strikes me as incredibly naive and illogical that people would be aghast that the Democratic Party business and organization is run by people who have been active for years within the Democratic Party.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)But no, it's a very tight cluster of people all orbiting around a single figure. Strange.
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)with been in the Party? Have you considered that they may not have been so active? You don't gain access within the organization when you have been on the outside for decades actively trying to undermine it and tear it down. It just doesn't follow.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)This sort of nepotism creates the assumption that said person "owns" the party, and that everyone in that big tent "owes" that person. It's damaging on principle and in effect, as our heavy losses since 2012 have shown.
Nonhlanhla
(2,074 posts)So I cannot follow the logic here.
in_cog_ni_to
(41,600 posts)You get the answers to what went down.
DWS has a MAJOR CONFLICT OF INTEREST here and we should DEMAND she be FIRED by Obama. NGO VAN needs to go! NOW.
PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE
JTFrog
(14,274 posts)I haven't seen anything that says she has a brother named Keith or a nephew named Aharon.
Debbie Wasserman Schultz/Family/
Shelby Schultz
Daughter
Jake Schultz
Son
Steve Wasserman
Brother
Larry Wasserman
Father
Ann Wasserman
Mother
Steve Schultz
Spouse
Rebecca Schultz
Daughter
Aharon Wasserman credits his very large family, which includes aunt and Assemblywoman Celeste Riley, with helping him understand the way groups of people interact and work together on projects.
But hey, let's go all in on some anonymous internet jpeg someone found lying around.
lastone
(588 posts)CharlotteVale
(2,717 posts)ChiciB1
(15,435 posts)No telling how much more of this type of information will be coming out. It keeps going dark and deeper.
RESEARCHERS! Off to work you Go!!
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Don't cross Sanders. Lol
JTFrog
(14,274 posts)Made up bullshit.
I've pointed this out repeatedly, but apparently haters are gonna just keep spreading the lies.
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)eom
JTFrog
(14,274 posts)She has a brother named Steve, not Keith as this lie claims. I haven't seen anything that says she has a brother named Keith or a nephew named Aharon.
Debbie Wasserman Schultz/Family/
Shelby Schultz
Daughter
Jake Schultz
Son
Steve Wasserman
Brother
Larry Wasserman
Father
Ann Wasserman
Mother
Steve Schultz
Spouse
Rebecca Schultz
Daughter
Aharon Wasserman credits his very large family, which includes aunt and Assemblywoman Celeste Riley, with helping him understand the way groups of people interact and work together on projects.
Not that I really expect the people lying and spreading bullshit propaganda to stop.
Agony
(2,605 posts)
not that that changes anything. There is way too much political incestuousness in the DNC to be fairly running a political party.
ENOUGH of this SHIT.
DWS should resign now.