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DaveT

(687 posts)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:13 PM Dec 2015

Not a single Hillary is Ahead Poll on the front page

Instead the common word, "steal" repeated hundreds of times.


What does that tell you?

It reminds me of the Dan Rather story on Bush's truncated service in the National Guard. Ten zillion internet posters suddenly became experts on typewriter fonts from the 1970s.



As you follow the dueling quotes from the various news stories, you see the Karl Rove method at work. Hillary has a trustworthiness problem while Sanders -- honestly, due mainly due to his newness to fame -- has a favorable rating in that area.

Watch as these soldiers do their assigned jobs.



Before you soldiers swarm over this thread with more quotes, take note that at least this one Bernie supporter agrees that a thorough investigation is appropriate and it is possible that the Sanders campaign may deserve a negative consequence, if the facts -- rather than internet snarking -- justify it. Such a negative consequence might be as mild as an admonition to a formal demand that Sanders withdraw from the race.

I do have to say that stealing his data is not an appropriate consequence no matter how benign or evil the facts turn out to be. By the way, that is what the DNC did until returning it this morning.


These furious debates with dueling internet sources are a regular feature of the Information Age. They are all absurd. My favorite example was the death of Trayvon Martin three years ago. Some people just KNEW that Zimmerman tracked the kid down and murdered him in cold blood while gun nuts just KNEW that Zimmerman had to kill the kid to save his own life.

I still don't know what happened exactly and the only guy who really knows beat the rap -- not convincing me that he was innocent, but definitely showing how hard it is to know exactly what happens in the real world as opposed to what we want to be true.

But partisan hacks cannot stand the idea of missing an opportunity to grind their axes.

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Not a single Hillary is Ahead Poll on the front page (Original Post) DaveT Dec 2015 OP
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As of this writing there is exactly one Hillary is Ahead poll thread DaveT Dec 2015 #5
I'm grateful for the independent investigation. I hope it is very thorough and across the board. magical thyme Dec 2015 #6

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DaveT

(687 posts)
3. kick
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 04:26 PM
Dec 2015

because why not?

I am asking for a modicum of objectivity from the other side -- I will consider the possibility that my candidate might be exactly what the soldiers say. But I am not going to believe it based on internet argumentation from media sources.

DaveT

(687 posts)
5. As of this writing there is exactly one Hillary is Ahead poll thread
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 02:03 AM
Dec 2015

on the front page of this forum.

But where did all those Steal Steal Steal threads go? Just two nights ago, the "facts" were being screamed in dozens of posts -- coupled with truly vicious commentary about Bernie's character.

As a Sanders supporter who was not sure about the facts, I was pleasantly but mildly surprised when his first statement last night was to renew his call for an independent investigation. He asked Hillary twice if she agreed. On the second call, she agreed. Note above on the OP, that exactly what I was hoping for.


Presto!!! No longer a topic of discussion by the Hillary Internet Team.


Amazing group discipline -- I give them that.



I hope my fellow Sanders supporters get it.


There will be an endless string of these smears coming. Politics ain't bean bag. We can't whine or fret about it -- just keep spreading the word on our terms. The mainstream media will not do that for us. And the well organized Clinton machine will continue to shout their talking points of the day in unison all the way until somebody wins.

We have to keep on keepin' on.

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