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sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:19 PM Dec 2015

Sanders will attack the DNC tonight.

Sanders will carry that embattled outsider message onto the stage tonight, and argue, as Clinton’s even lower-polling challengers have for months, that the Democratic National Committee and its chair, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, have been in the tank for the Democratic front-runner all along.







Martin O’Malley, for one, has accused the DNC of planning too few debates, and scheduling them on weekends, so that Clinton’s opponents wouldn’t get the national viewership they’d need to rise in the polls. And Jim Webb, who dropped out of the race after the first debate, citing a break from the party, tweeted as Sanders fought over the voter data on Friday: “Good for Bernie. The DNC is nothing more than an arm for the Clinton campaign."

It also comes at a useful moment. Sanders has appeared to plateau in recent weeks, failing to gain ground on Clinton in Iowa or national polling while maintaining a slim lead in New Hampshire. By homing in on Wasserman Schultz, a party leader whose tense relationship with the White House has already claimed headlines and who is perceived as closer with Clinton than any other candidate, his team thinks it can rekindle the spark.

It’s a strategy that hinges on the public perception of Clinton’s and Wasserman Schultz’s personal relationship, which in reality is not particularly warm. However, it is closer than the one between Wasserman Schultz and Sanders, an independent senator who caucuses with Democrats.



Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/12/sanders-gets-the-fight-he-wanted-216965#ixzz3un90rN8m




My prediction:red meat for his followers,massive turn off for most democratic voters. Attacking the democratic party when you've been one for all of 2 months won't play well.

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Sanders will attack the DNC tonight. (Original Post) sufrommich Dec 2015 OP
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2015 #1
To This Citizen - The Fight Is Between The 99% And The Oligarchs, Corporations And Banks That Fund cantbeserious Dec 2015 #2
Sanders would be wise to sitick to issues and not attack the DNC--afterall, it was his riversedge Dec 2015 #3
Maybe he can get $ from the Socialist National Committee redstateblues Dec 2015 #4
Maybe he could run as a 3 party candidate! artislife Dec 2015 #6
He won't, he doesn't want to see a republican in the White House. Agschmid Dec 2015 #14
I am pointing out to the orginal poster artislife Dec 2015 #15
Yup... Agschmid Dec 2015 #17
It will not be his best defense but you are probably right, it will not change and increase the Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #5
it won't be a defense Enrique Dec 2015 #7
Okay, in a few hours we will see. If he starts in on the DNC then he will be on defense. Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #8
If so, expect Hillary's numbers to go up. grossproffit Dec 2015 #9
It'll play to the base Blue_Adept Dec 2015 #10
After all the inauguration parties have finally been thrown for Bernie! artislife Dec 2015 #16
everyone will make the association between the improper data access bigtree Dec 2015 #11
It will come across as angry and negative. sufrommich Dec 2015 #13
She hasn't steered clear of the emotions in the past...nt artislife Dec 2015 #18
Another Politico story sourced to... OilemFirchen Dec 2015 #12
If he does that Nonhlanhla Dec 2015 #19
I'm not sure what Sanders will do tonight. MineralMan Dec 2015 #20
That would be a big mistake Andy823 Dec 2015 #21

Response to sufrommich (Original post)

cantbeserious

(13,039 posts)
2. To This Citizen - The Fight Is Between The 99% And The Oligarchs, Corporations And Banks That Fund
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:22 PM
Dec 2015

Both Parties.

riversedge

(70,242 posts)
3. Sanders would be wise to sitick to issues and not attack the DNC--afterall, it was his
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:23 PM
Dec 2015

staffers who went into the cookie jar and did searches on the Clinton data base.

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
6. Maybe he could run as a 3 party candidate!
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:29 PM
Dec 2015

He didn't because he respected the DNC, he didn't want to repeat 2001 and have the left be blamed for not enough votes.

If he changed his mind, I would still support him. Because of where he stands on issues and policies. And I like him more.

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
14. He won't, he doesn't want to see a republican in the White House.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:53 PM
Dec 2015

He is not an idiot. He is a smart guy and knows the consequences to the people of a selfish action like that.

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
15. I am pointing out to the orginal poster
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:56 PM
Dec 2015

why Bernie ran as a democrat. That it was a pretty good reason for all of us, not just Bernie.

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
17. Yup...
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:58 PM
Dec 2015

And unlike DU any of the potential nominees will support and most likely vote for the nominee.

DU is just a special place...

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
5. It will not be his best defense but you are probably right, it will not change and increase the
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:25 PM
Dec 2015

number of votes he will have in the primary. I think Hillary will defend herself when needed but will be pushing her agenda. Whining will not give the "exposure" Sanders has been whining, guess whining is more important than his agenda. We need a leader as president.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
8. Okay, in a few hours we will see. If he starts in on the DNC then he will be on defense.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:39 PM
Dec 2015

I would not be surprised if he isn't ask about the data violations. He is the head of his campaign or at least should be.

Blue_Adept

(6,399 posts)
10. It'll play to the base
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:40 PM
Dec 2015

But it won't move the needle when it comes to the general population. It won't have any traction come Monday as folks go into pre-holiday work blitzes. And it won't survive into the new year to be a part of things.

It'll fire up his supporters to be sure, however. But they were already fired up. At some point they have to come crashing down.

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
16. After all the inauguration parties have finally been thrown for Bernie!
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:58 PM
Dec 2015

Then we will settle down and get to work.

bigtree

(85,998 posts)
11. everyone will make the association between the improper data access
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:47 PM
Dec 2015

and Sanders, before they even consider whatever he wants to impart.

I'm less than impressed that he'd try and deflect from his own campaign's misconduct by making this an issue now in the debate when this has been going on for months and months. It will look self-serving and makes a dubious equalization between a transgression by the Sanders campaign already in evidence, and what amounts to little more than political jousting by the DNC, however offensive, unfair, or biased.

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
13. It will come across as angry and negative.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:52 PM
Dec 2015

Two emotions Hillary will stay clear of. "Your party sucks" isn't a good primary campaign strategy.

OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
12. Another Politico story sourced to...
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:47 PM
Dec 2015

&quot P)eople familiar with his plans".

IIRC they penned a similar piece about Clinton last night. Not worth the time to look it up.

Nonhlanhla

(2,074 posts)
19. If he does that
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 03:00 PM
Dec 2015

he will simply prove that he is not the candidate to take up the mantle of the leader of the Democratic Party.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
20. I'm not sure what Sanders will do tonight.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 03:01 PM
Dec 2015

We haven't heard a peep from him yet about that DataGate thing. Certainly he'll have to say something tonight. He could bluster about it and claim victimhood, of course. Or, he could say his staff did a bad thing and will answer for it. Were I him, I'd do the latter thing, frankly. If he blusters, he's going to hand Clinton another polling bump. If he doesn't, he probably won't lose any ground.

If he blusters, O'Malley will get a bump, too, from those who are unhappy with the data incursion but who don't like Clinton.

Viewers who take the time to tune into this debate are surely interested in hearing from the candidates. Most will have watched the other two debates, too. They're serious about this election. They'll tune in and listen.

What Sanders does, and how he approaches the question of the day will affect the next round of polls. That's for sure. I'm betting he's sweating a bit today as he prepares to take the stage. His silence is interesting. We'll know what he decides tonight, and it may well determine the results in Iowa and New Hampshire, states he desperately needs if he is planning to continue his campaign.

I can't imagine how anyone wouldn't be watching tonight, to be quite frank. It could be a turning point in the race.

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
21. That would be a big mistake
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 03:11 PM
Dec 2015

It's hard to say what will happen, but if he does go after the DNC the he is listening to some very bad advice from someone in his campaign. If he starts going negative, playing the "victim" card on this issue, he will be in trouble. He should have come on when he first heard about the breach and took care of it then. He missed that window, and bringing it up at the debate, or trying to put the blame on others for his staffs screw up won't come off as being a leader.

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